Question: When he "performs a focus action" is that when he initially generates the focus or is it also when he uses it to change a die to a hit/evade?

I ask because if it's when he spends it, would that allow him to give himself a focus since he's in R1 of himself? Essentially, he would never lose it because he could assign it back to himself. Is that right?

I don't think spending a focus token is the same as performing a focus action.

I think performing a focus action is the act of spending your once-per-turn action to gain a focus token.

It’s when he uses his action or a free action to choose the “Focus” action. He can decide to give that focus to someone else, or if he has Recon Specialist he can keep one and give the other away.

It has nothing to do with spending a focus token.

Using Garven as the example, we can see that spending a token and the focus action is different.

Benthic’s ability isn’t really that much different than Kyle Katarns. Both give a focus token they generated to a friendly ship. Timing is different, but that’s about it.

i’m definitely seeing Rey and/or Recon Spec being glued to Benthic.

Gotcha. I kept reading and re-reading the card text to the point where nothing made any sense any more. "... What is an action? "

That would be a pretty powerful ability if he could keep his focus!

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So if he has Rex crew, shoots and misses, he can't give that focus away either since the card says it is "assigned," yes?

or Kyle crew

Cant wait to pair him with Jake Farrel. Boost or Barrel roll before dial? Yes please. Bonus points for putting Intel Agent on Two Tubes to know how to B/BR.

When he initially generates the focus token specifically with the Focus Action . So things that assign him a focus token do no count. Rey (crew) putting a focus token back on him would not work, for instance, or Garven, Capt. Rex. (crew), Operations Spec., etc.

1 minute ago, Force Majeure said:

Gotcha. I kept reading and re-reading the card text to the point where nothing made any sense any more. "... What is an action? "

That would be a pretty powerful ability if he could keep his focus!

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So if he has Rex crew, shoots and misses, he can't give that focus away either since the card says it is "assigned," yes?

That’s correct, “assigning a focus token” is different from taking a “focus action”, which are both different from “spending a token.”

It should be: Benthic "Two Tubes"

Man, I think I'll take a Kyle+TLT+RecSpec+Title over two tubes. Kyle is Range 1-3, doesn't require an action, and with the title he can be handing out a token every turn, stress or no stress.

Add Pulsed Ray Shield and you probably will have a similar number of hit points long term...

I can't see any game crippling reasons, but I think they probably made it "focus action" instead of "acquire a focus token" so that you couldn't do something like use OpSpec and Two-Tubes to bounce the token back on the person that just attacked, since they seem to want to limit OpSpec from doing that.

NM, OpSpec is "a friendly ship", not "another friendly ship". I got nothing.

29 minutes ago, Stinger07 said:

Man, I think I'll take a Kyle+TLT+RecSpec+Title over two tubes. Kyle is Range 1-3, doesn't require an action, and with the title he can be handing out a token every turn, stress or no stress.

Add Pulsed Ray Shield and you probably will have a similar number of hit points long term...

27 points kk with just TLT

Ben-thick two tubes is 22 with refit, 25 with rec spec, 27 with fcs

Now I'm not one to sing the U's praises or anything, but full mods with double focus on a 3 die primary/2 die agility really isn't horrible

Definitely take it over a naked TLT hwk any day

Problablt not over a Sheathe or Auzzie, but easily over KK. Can even take Jan oars crew (29 point total) for focus + evade or handing out free evades without compromising his own modifiers

Btw, how do you know Ben-thick is 22 points post refit? Just think of his name

2 2ubes

So basically it's a limited Coordinate action, but he's also a PS4 pilot for the same price as the PS3 Heff and only one more point than the PS2 generic. He's alright for what he does.

There are a few advantages over coordinate, first being you can double up on focus/evade (using oars) and the target doesn't have to be able to perform actions

second is that the U can actually fight

Now is that as good as Low/Fenn?...highly, HIGHLY doubt it

But it's not bad

36 minutes ago, Force Majeure said:

Gotcha. I kept reading and re-reading the card text to the point where nothing made any sense any more. "... What is an action? "

That would be a pretty powerful ability if he could keep his focus!

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So if he has Rex crew, shoots and misses, he can't give that focus away either since the card says it is "assigned," yes?

or Kyle crew

Kyle or Rex can't initiate a move (assigning a focus token isn't the same as taking a focus action, so BTT's ability doesn't trigger), but when you take a focus action, it doesn't matter where your focus token originally came from.

For example, if you had Kyle Katarn on BTT, did a green move, gained a focus token from Kyle, then took a focus action using Jan Ors to gain an Evade token, you could move the token Kyle gave you earlier. Or if BTT took a target lock and shot at PS 12 due to Roark Garnet, missed and gained a Focus from Captain Rex, and then Airen Cracken attacked and gave you a free action, you could take a focus action and move the token Rex gave you earlier.

As is, BTT is kind of a more limited Coordinate in that he only works on Focus actions, but he gains a benefit from Recon Specialist.

Recon Specialist, anyone? One focus for you, one for your buddy. Only with one action! Seems pretty sweet.

5 minutes ago, PhantomFO said:

So basically it's a limited Coordinate action, but he's also a PS4 pilot for the same price as the PS3 Heff and only one more point than the PS2 generic. He's alright for what he does.

Kinda like a Fleet Officer without the stress if you toss Recon Spec on him.

40 minutes ago, Celestial Lizards said:

It should be: Benthic "Two Tubes"

How do you know Benthic is his real name?

Just now, Commander Kaine said:

How do you know Benthic is his real name?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Benthic

Oh no, i had a bad thought

1.) Miranda (29)

*TLT (6), *Poons (4), *c3po (3), *LRS (0)

[=42]

lowhrick (28)

*DTF (1), *Commandoes (1)

[=30]

Benny Too Tubular (22, with refit)

*FCS (2), rey (2), Jan oars (2)

[=28]

Oh no, I'm going to xwing **** for making this

Here he is!

12 minutes ago, ficklegreendice said:

Oh no, i had a bad thought

1.) Miranda (29)

*TLT (6), *Poons (4), *c3po (3), *LRS (0)

[=42]

lowhrick (28)

*DTF (1), *Commandoes (1)

[=30]

Benny Too Tubular (22, with refit)

*FCS (2), rey (2), Jan oars (2)

[=28]

Oh no, I'm going to xwing **** for making this

So you stack up on focus tokens early, but moving them from Rey to Benny won't trigger the pilot ability right? You're just using Rey so Benny gets focuses and then he takes a focus action to send a token to a friendly ship (Jan can turn the Rey token to an evade or the assigned token to the friendly ship)?

Yeah Rey's just there to cover Bennie so he can actually do things after tossing his action (or use it to put an evade on Bennie if he's next on the list)

You still need to perform a focus action to get the ball rolling

Just now, ficklegreendice said:

Yeah Rey's just there to cover Bennie so he can actually do things (or use it to put an evade on Bennie if he's next on the list)

You still need to perform a focus action to get the ball rolling

Cool. Just making sure the pilot ability didn't trigger on the Rey focus.

8 hours ago, ficklegreendice said:

27 points kk with just TLT

Ben-thick two tubes is 22 with refit, 25 with rec spec, 27 with fcs

Now I'm not one to sing the U's praises or anything, but full mods with double focus on a 3 die primary/2 die agility really isn't horrible

Definitely take it over a naked TLT hwk any day

Problablt not over a Sheathe or Auzzie, but easily over KK. Can even take Jan oars crew (29 point total) for focus + evade or handing out free evades without compromising his own modifiers

Btw, how do you know Ben-thick is 22 points post refit? Just think of his name

2 2ubes

I think Jan makes him a neat support ship at 29pts. Magva Yarro is another more offensive option, and then you could just throw on scramblers.

Its good to see some usable support pilots for the U-wing. I'm keen to fly a Benthic/Saw U-wing as a proper shuttle rather than a bump machine.

So Edrio (X-wing) is going to be 22pts right?