So Leevan's ability is After you perform a boost, you may receive a stress token to receive an evade token. PS5 and 25 points. Equip him with the refit, servos, IA, R2D2, and wired comes out to 27 points. Can you fly him like Corran Horn (after his double tap) and just kyte the enemy, mitigating 2 damage a turn (regen via R2D2, evade via ability, plus potentially more via natural 2 agi with focus rerolls)... Or you could even put cool hand on him to give him a turn of no stress (and double evade!) to setup his attack run (that might actually be better than wired). He'll be almost as defensive as Corran himself, and with the 2 bank plus boost available to him he'll be able to run away at the same speed. Obviously he's not as aggressive as Corran, but at 27 points compared to 46/48/49, he doesn't need to be. Thoughts?

Gonna go nicely with Flight Assist, but probably not with anything else, because just an evade doesn't get you any offensive mods at all, and honestly, who cares about a limp-blastered but difficult to kill x wing?

juke carrier and attempt to block + shoot something at range 1 - seems weak that way and too conditional.

Leevan is DOA in my opinion.

The key issue is that bloody stress token.

Move - flight assist a boost, get a free evade and a stress, NO ACTION during action phase. next turn, flip title, 2 bank flight assist a roll, then natural boost to start re-positioning. Even then a 1-2 bank or 1-2 forward are incredibly easy to block.

A stressed X-wing is often a dead X-wing.

I'm going to try him with intensity just because... but I think he might be one of the worst X-wing pilots... which is sad because I really wanted to like him. If that stress token was't there it would be better. and I don't think it would be broken!

These things are still pretty fragile.

yeah, if you're boosting without FAA it means you got closed s-foils

which means a worthless two die primary

so, no go

even FAA isn't good because you won't be able to do your normal action when stressed, since FAA kicks in after maneuver (before actions). SO maybe Wired, but honestly he seems thoroughly unimpressive. PErsonally of the opinion that the renegade Xs ain't got **** on the original crew

speaking of, if you want a cheap, tanky regen you want LW r2-d2 Luke

you get a soft LW Asajj (LW is the same, luke's ability is a very soft glitterstim, and r2-d2 is basically evade or latz + asajj but not both at the same time)

1 minute ago, ficklegreendice said:

speaking of, if you want a cheap, tanky regen you want LW r2-d2 Luke

you get a soft LW Asajj (LW is the same, luke's ability is a very soft glitterstim, and r2-d2 is basically evade or latz + asajj but not both at the same time)

yup, thats the way to do it if you want a more survivable X-Wing that's not Poe.

Then Intensity, Juke or Wired.

Also, I am seeing Engine Upgrade + Auto Thrusters as a very viable upgrade for defensive purposes.

1 minute ago, Jadotch said:

add intensity. by golly....that might just work!

2 minutes ago, Jadotch said:

That's an interesting idea. 26 points plus whatever EPT you take gets you a guy that can easily get into R1 with a TL but doesn't have to worry about living to get his attack...

3 minutes ago, Wiredin said:

add intensity. by golly....that might just work!

End result is either TL w/ 2 evade or focus/evade with a range 1-2 shot in most cases; I like it!

With Refit, IA, Intensity, and R7-T1, thats also only 26 points.

holy **** I completely forgot r7-t1 existed

good catch

Just now, Innese said:

End result is either TL w/ 2 evade or focus/evade with a range 1-2 shot in most cases; I like it!

Take the F/E so you can fully modify that 4 dice R1 primary. Yeah, okay, I could get behind that more than I could the R2D2 variant I originally thought of. He will still be stressed and de-tensified, but that just means that he's designed as a hit & run X Wing.

1 minute ago, Khyros said:

Take the F/E so you can fully modify that 4 dice R1 primary. Yeah, okay, I could get behind that more than I could the R2D2 variant I originally thought of. He will still be stressed and de-tensified, but that just means that he's designed as a hit & run X Wing.

.... Which is the one thing closed s-foils are actually good for. Huh.

Leevan+Intensity+R7-T1 might actually work.

1 minute ago, Khyros said:

Take the F/E so you can fully modify that 4 dice R1 primary. Yeah, okay, I could get behind that more than I could the R2D2 variant I originally thought of. He will still be stressed and de-tensified, but that just means that he's designed as a hit & run X Wing.

yea, the order of play with this build seems to be:

turn a - Move - boost into R1 w/lock. intensity a focus. PA an evade.

turn b - flip title, bank to disengage, boost out of engagement, take free evade. end of round, flip intensity.

turn c - green move to clear stress and setup for next turn.

turn d - flip title, boost into R1, kill things. reset

problem.

he is PS5 wishing he was PS8+

ironically leevan would be decent at firing an ion torpedoe or whatever, but the fiix used his torp slot. seems pretty weak

19 minutes ago, Wiredin said:

problem.

he is PS5 wishing he was PS8+

Not necessarily. In today's meta sure, everyone wants to be PS11 (or PS3 and save those points) in today's meta. Who knows what tomorrow's meta will bring. But I do agree that PS5 may be a hindrance to his viability. Though you could definitely make up a team of PS5 ships and he could be a good contributor.

Leevan w/ R7T1, Intensity, IA, Servos, Refit = 26 points

Hobbie w/ R2D6, Opportunist, IA, Servos, Refit = 26 points

Kanan w/ ABT, FCS, Jyn, HSCP = 48 points

Total = 100pts

Obviously this just a random list I put together in 30 seconds, but there are lots of good pilot abilities at PS5 that you could couple together to get at least a decent list, even if it's not top tier.

I quite like it, but being locked to boosting every turn is a bit of a chore and I can see him very rapidly just turtling away with the enemy behind him and never able to get facing the right way without dropping his defences and exploding.

More interested in him than the Speedos guy.

5 minutes ago, SOTL said:

I quite like it, but being locked to boosting every turn is a bit of a chore and I can see him very rapidly just turtling away with the enemy behind him and never able to get facing the right way without dropping his defences and exploding.

More interested in him than the Speedos guy.

If your opponent is chasing Leevan, then the rest of your list is chasing his list...seems like that could be good.

Leevan was made just to give the Uwings a reason to exist since Leevans ability synergizes perfectly with Cassian and Saw. That auto stress is redonkulous and a makes Leevan DOA. We have wookiees with reinforce, and an xwing cant have a single evade? For whatever cost you think you can get with her, Jess Pava, Luke, Wedge, Wes will always be better. There is no room for her except maybe as a swarm leader feeder.

Ignore his ability... he's a Unique (PS5 with elite slot) for only 1 more point than Red Squadron. Other than the unique bit, that's basically what everyone was asking for, for Rogue Squadron Pilot.

R7-T1 might work. Personally, I think I'd combine it with Juke rather than Intensity, but that's just personal preference.

Other than that, a limited PTL that's purely defensive isn't terrible, but on a ship as cheap as this (say, Wired or Lone Wolf and R2-D2), while it can survive fairly well, it wouldn't be a good point fortress. I mean, why work so hard to protect a sub-30 point ship?

Ultimately, I think Leevan is more like Blue Leader: someone fun and kinda OK, nice to put on the table in a casual game, but not really going to be impressive in a competitive sense.

33 minutes ago, Khyros said:

Leevan w/ R7T1, Intensity, IA, Servos, Refit = 26 points

Random thought - Intensity puts a weird cadence on movement of the ship, and the servos aren't strictly needed for anything...

What about Experimental Interface alongside Juke? He can then focus for his action, EI into the astromech that gets him a TL and pilot ability an evade. So full mods on an attack (focus + TL) with an evade to knock off one of the defender's evades...

(Hmmm...course, now he's double stressed, so...hmmm...)

32 minutes ago, gennataos said:

If your opponent is chasing Leevan, then the rest of your list is chasing his list...seems like that could be good.

But if he's got Evade and R2-D2 there's no incentive to hit him while you've got any ships left, so they leave him to endgame knowing that he's pretty useless once he gets there despite his defenses.

Want some Shenanigans!

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•Leevan Tenza (27) - X-Wing (T-65)
Intensity (1), •R7-T1 (3), Renegade Refit (-2), Servomotor S-foils (0), Integrated Astromech (0)

•AP-5 (19) - Sheathipede-class Shuttle
•Bodhi Rook (1), •M9-G8 (3)

•Dash Rendar (54) - YT-2400
•Lone Wolf (2), Heavy Laser Cannon (7), Rey (2), •Outrider (5), Ion Projector (2)

I definitely see AP-5 and Leevan Tenza (LT) as a thing. AP-5 takes the stress (maybe inspiring recruit is a better option?? But I see M9 and Dash's opponent in a bigger role than Leevan.) Leevan still has time to change wing configurations and everything while finding a green maneuver.

AP-5 is going to be big with the Servo motor.

OK, AP-5 coordinates LT ---> LT boosts and take a target lock with R3-T1---> gain stress takes an evade ---> Intensity triggers, takes a second evade ---> LT Activates ---> LT moves on a green ---> distresses and has an action left ---> LT takes a focus (Or barrel roll.)

Hopefully your token stake is big enough to reset intensity by the end of the round.

1 hour ago, ficklegreendice said:

even FAA isn't good because you won't be able to do your normal action when stressed, since FAA kicks in after maneuver (before actions). SO maybe Wired, but honestly he seems thoroughly unimpressive. PErsonally of the opinion that the renegade Xs ain't got **** on the original crew

Head-canon: Saw and Company weren't kicked out for being too extreme. They were kicked out for being about as effective as Stormtroopers.