oph, I hope it's not 18 with FFA or we're really going to have peeved imperial players pointing at their ps 1 strikers and shouting "WTF!"

It should be 20.

1 minute ago, ficklegreendice said:

oph, I hope it's not 18 with FFA or we're really going to have peeved imperial players pointing at their ps 1 strikers and shouting "WTF!"

Nevermind that at 18, with the -2 refit, you'd be able to fit 6x X-Wings in a list.

I mean...

broke

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FWIW, I was assuming 19 before we saw the price and details of the refit cards. Now I'm thinking 20 is more likely.

there was an idea a while back that it's the same 21 points as the rookie, but ps with an ept

I'd be super down. People are way too crazy about ept = high ps, when it's just another upgrade slot

problem being you'd see five crackshot x-wings and we'd probably all be ******...

so yeah, agreed it's probably 20 points (or 19 with FAA)

so you could do four with your fifth X being m9g8 Tarn Mison, or XXXXZZ (BBBBZ, eat your heart out)

but given I feel 2-die primaries are bumloving worthless, I'd go for the Tarn Mison

-throws out all his Vectored Thrusters cards- YOU'RE DEAD TO ME! DEAD!

This looks fantastic and I might start running U-Wings alongside these fixed X-Wings!

34 minutes ago, Kehl_Aecea said:

-throws out all his Vectored Thrusters cards- YOU'RE DEAD TO ME! DEAD!

But. . .

3 hours ago, thespaceinvader said:

I'd love it if they did. I want K crew to be able to equip himself to another ship at range 1 when his ship is destroyed. He can survive in space.

Pilot version... maybe something to do with movement when close to rocks? Hypering out of Jedha was probably the most impressive thing a pilot has done in canon except maybe hypering IN to starkiller. Action: if you are at range 1 of an obstacle have not overlapped an obstacle or ship this round, you may remove your ship from the board and replace it within range 1 of a different obstacle and outside range 3 of any enemy ships.

Yeah.

I'm hoping for something like an extra attack die when K2SO crew is on same ship with Jyn

He gets a blaster!

8 minutes ago, piznit said:

I'm hoping for something like an extra attack die when K2SO crew is on same ship with Jyn

He gets a blaster!

So it'd be more "spend a focus for a red die", to promote synergy without being too clunkily hamstrung (slight synergy with two tubes, too)

Needs to be real expensive to not be broken

Also arc-locked; primary weapon only

Probably still broken (five die ghost!)

1 hour ago, ficklegreendice said:

oph, I hope it's not 18 with FFA or we're really going to have peeved imperial players pointing at their ps 1 strikers and shouting "WTF!"

My ears are burning.

1 hour ago, ficklegreendice said:

there was an idea a while back that it's the same 21 points as the rookie, but ps with an ept

It's really not that crazy - GSP already has an EPT as a generic at PS3, so...

1 minute ago, xanderf said:

It's really not that crazy - GSP already has an EPT as a generic at PS3, so...

at PS 3, yes

not PS 1, which seems to be the generic X in Saw's

more importantly, after ages of overcosting imperial generics to prevent 5 crackshots (TAPs and Striker), I doubt they'd do so here

6 hours ago, Azrapse said:

I just hope nobody bothers to open and close the miniature wings whenever that guy flips the s-foils card.

I disagree! I've always moved the striker's wings as a matter of principle...

6 hours ago, heychadwick said:

Porkins with PTL and R5-D8 is only 29 pts now!

Or throw on Expertise and swap one of the free mods for hull upgrade and join Hobbie in playing baby-TIE-Defenders...

4 hours ago, pickirk01 said:

And Garvin and Hobbie, and Graz and Leatin, and Lorrir and Kanos and...

Every named pilot and generic over ps 3 should have an elite if a pilot of the ship has one. There are only maybe 1 or 2 exceptions, and I’m not even convinced giving wampa or Biggs an elite would be an issue at all at this point.

2 hours ago, ficklegreendice said:

but given I feel 2-die primaries are bumloving worthless, I'd go for the Tarn Mison

More or less agreed - if you're thinking 'blocker', 5 warm bodies with barrel roll should be able to do the job, and if they aren't, swapping 1 for 2 without barrel roll doesn't seem a great deal. If they had the points for thread tracers, maybe.

16 minutes ago, Kdubb said:

Every named pilot and generic over ps 3 should have an elite if a pilot of the ship has one. There are only maybe 1 or 2 exceptions, and I’m not even convinced giving wampa or Biggs an elite would be an issue at all at this point.

Ghost and Miranda

sad YASB hasn't been updated yet

7 minutes ago, Jadotch said:

Ghost and Miranda

24 minutes ago, Kdubb said:

Every named pilot and generic over ps 3 should have an elite if a pilot of the ship has one . There are only maybe 1 or 2 exceptions, and I’m not even convinced giving wampa or Biggs an elite would be an issue at all at this point.

22 minutes ago, Kdubb said:

Every named pilot and generic over ps 3 should have an elite if a pilot of the ship has one. There are only maybe 1 or 2 exceptions, and I’m not even convinced giving wampa or Biggs an elite would be an issue at all at this point.

Before this week, I would have disagreed strongly with that.

I would have made some comments about 'variations in design space' or 'game balance considerations' or meaningless stuff like that.

Now , though - we've got 5x barrel-rolling, boosting, t-rolling, 6-health, X-Wings in a list. Cats sleeping with dogs. Mass hysteria!

So, sure, why not?

1 minute ago, xanderf said:

Now , though - we've got 5x barrel-rolling, boosting, t-rolling, 6-health, X-Wings in a list. Cats sleeping with dogs. Mass hysteria!

6 minutes ago, xanderf said:

Before this week, I would have disagreed strongly with that.

I would have made some comments about 'variations in design space' or 'game balance considerations' or meaningless stuff like that.

Now , though - we've got 5x barrel-rolling, boosting, t-rolling, 6-health, X-Wings in a list. Cats sleeping with dogs. Mass hysteria!

So, sure, why not?

Yet they still won’t see consistent competitive play!! Madness!!

24 minutes ago, Wiredin said:

sad YASB hasn't been updated yet

Geordan immediately let us know on our local FB page that YASB won't be updated until next week.

I immediately fired him, at which point he retroactively quit.

My bad.

You can already play with all this stuff in the FlyCasual Simulator, guys.

5 hours ago, Kehl_Aecea said:

-throws out all his Vectored Thrusters cards- YOU'RE DEAD TO ME! DEAD!

This looks fantastic and I might start running U-Wings alongside these fixed X-Wings!

I know, I was so excited about the Refit I was like, "Oh man, I can get IA AND put Vectored on my X's and its as if it were free." And then I looked at S-Foils again...

6 minutes ago, pickirk01 said:

I know, I was so excited about the Refit I was like, "Oh man, I can get IA AND put Vectored on my X's and its as if it were free." And then I looked at S-Foils again...

now it's EXTRA free!

21 hours ago, FrightfulCommand said:

Impressions on this fix?

I'm decidedly meh. There did not need to be movement dial creep, the ship did not need to fly exactly the same now as every other ship in the game. Plus, this is getting more complex. And it still feels like you can't do what is seen in the movies. Proton Torpedo with Guidance Chip? I guess Luke did not have guidance chips., or a target lock.

To be fair... Only two xwings survived against a laughable counter attack. And they were saved by the last minute Solo thing only.

So maybe the original xwings aren't supposed to be great?

10 hours ago, Jeff Wilder said:

Geordan immediately let us know on our local FB page that YASB won't be updated until next week.

I immediately fired him, at which point he retroactively quit.

My bad.

You have done well. Your hatred makes you strong... It gives you focus.