5 minutes ago, beefcake4000 said:

So 12 winning lists from all over the world with every ship type represented except victories isn't enough data... Sure go find the top 4 lists from all of those comps, it's available if you want to invest the time and let me know how you go...

2 hours ago, beefcake4000 said:

we need to sit through another round of people who proclaim it's glory in their garage who unfortunately couldn't make it to world's because of X reason which clearly explains why the world's data is just as invalid as the regionals data...

Precisely

this happens every time. I do not see why people simply don't agree that Top 4s and Winners together especially if they show a same growing direction are enough to make an argument, especially after 10 or more tournaments, that's 40 Top4s. Do these two agree? Then, there's no reason to argue small sample size or "Oh, use Top4"

7 hours ago, FrightfulCommand said:

Precisely

this happens every time. I do not see why people simply don't agree that Top 4s and Winners together especially if they show a same growing direction are enough to make an argument, especially after 10 or more tournaments, that's 40 Top4s. Do these two agree? Then, there's no reason to argue small sample size or "Oh, use Top4"

Small sample size is enough to determine that X exists, not why X exists.

11 hours ago, beefcake4000 said:

proclaim it's glory in their garage who unfortunately couldn't make it to world's because of X reason

In my basement where I normally play the Vic has been viable.. especially with d-caps and as a carrier. I don't use them.. I just have them used against me. And never in a garage. I can't speak for how well they work in garages so that might be something...

And.. I can't go to worlds because I didn't win Regionals and also because I can't get that much time off of work and also because I would probably lose every match. But I still think Vics are ok!

Vics are great! Jesus Christ is this nonsense starting again here??

Show me a cheaper Platform than a Vic II that throws 6-8 Dice at long range at two targets.

On 23/04/2018 at 11:37 PM, Npmartian said:

Not with Tagge, but VSD-IIs can put out a heck of a lot of damage. They're a lot better than people give them credit for.

Yeah i have found Tagge to be pretty good with 2 kuats and flotillas as you can burn out the brace repeatedly with ecm. But i wouldnt bother with him with anything non ecm equipped most of the time you will doe with yoir tokens unspent.

To the OP, VSDs have some good options now but they dont count as the current good stuff. If you want to use them and have fun thats fine.

My list of 'current good stuff' based on direct experience there is no doubt more out there

Imps

Double cymoon vader

BT avenger

Demo

Most scatter ace squad builds and marek jendon. You just need to get the right platform to push them

Rebels

Raddus profanity

Yavaris

Double vcx and second player

Sato mc75s

9 hours ago, >kkj said:

Vics are great! Jesus Christ is this nonsense starting again here??

Show me a cheaper Platform than a Vic II that throws 6-8 Dice at long range at two targets.

Assault Frigate

Your point stands nonetheless

6 hours ago, Ginkapo said:

Assault Frigate

Your point stands nonetheless

I can’t get my AF to throw 6-8 at Medium without costing more than a Vic2 with GT ?

1 minute ago, Drasnighta said:

I can’t get my AF to throw 6-8 at Medium without costing more than a Vic2 with GT ?

Ackbar Most Wanted and Concentrate Fire. Ackbar on a different ship so his cost isnt included here. Done even need Dcaps, which help Interdictors pull of a similar trick with QBTs

Yeah, no. Won’t happen. Doesn’t happen.

plus then I just roll 5-6 red blanks.

9 minutes ago, Drasnighta said:

Yeah, no. Won’t happen. Doesn’t happen.

plus then I just roll 5-6 red blanks.

I learned to use Caitkan and Sholan more often because of that

9 hours ago, Sybreed said:

I learned to use Caitkan and Sholan more often because of that

Shame they are exhausted.

11 hours ago, Ginkapo said:

Ackbar Most Wanted and Concentrate Fire. Ackbar on a different ship so his cost isnt included here. Done even need Dcaps, which help Interdictors pull of a similar trick with QBTs

The real trick is giving the Interdictor a turbolaser slot for those QBTs...

14 hours ago, TallGiraffe said:

Shame they are exhausted.

I think FFG has learned to use the exhaust function way more often to prevent some opness of the past xD

15 hours ago, TallGiraffe said:

Shame they are exhausted.

They use your Weapons Team slot, and if you're getting Ackbar dice you're not shooting out the front, so for the AF it's pretty moot.

20 hours ago, The Jabbawookie said:

The real trick is giving the Interdictor a turbolaser slot for those QBTs...

If the Combat Interdictor had a turbolaser slot, it might not be the hands-down worst Imperial ship variant. Sadly, that's not the case :(.

Suppressor Interdictor is super legit now, though.