B-Wing/E2 should be a Title

By drail14me, in X-Wing

1 hour ago, ficklegreendice said:

gameplay >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fluff

Han's deflector thingy is partially reflected in the MF title's evade action. In the case of the B/punisher, it'd just reflect that these are giant lumbering beasts meant to engage capital ships and fortified positions dead on, so they'd probably be built to survive punishment (heh) from the front but not so much if flanked

Aye, fair enough.

But what do you think about reinforce being shield token dependant?

as a normal action, wouldn't mind. don't think it'd make wookies super bad or anything

as a B-wing/punisher arc-only title, it'd be a bit much. poor things need all the help they can get.

29 minutes ago, ficklegreendice said:

as a normal action, wouldn't mind. don't think it'd make wookies super bad or anything

as a B-wing/punisher arc-only title, it'd be a bit much. poor things need all the help they can get.

On the b-wing with 3 hull, 5 shield, they wouldn't lose out that much.

I think it would make reinforce much more playable, especially in the arena of large ships.

And, fluff wise, the panic of "our shields are at 25%!!!" would be even more fun.

Plasma torps would be more desirable.

It would make shield upgrade the cat's meow, as well. And large ships might be dissuaded from engine upgrade.

And lastly, it makes the shield token a "commodity" in the meta of the game, creating more interesting build choices.

Of course, all of that is no help to the Punisher.

Edited by Darth Meanie
10 hours ago, Rakaydos said:

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Open up the Bwing dial, and especially the maneuverability and pilot abilities of elite Bwing pilots.

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Scary looking, but without guidance chips (because this is a mod) all it really does is give the Bwing cheap options that dont actually increase power. 1 point to turn a 3 die primary into a mangler cannon, or 4 points to turn it into a 4 die HLC. 3 dice with a TL or a free 4 die no mod plasma torpedo. Extra Munitions and Linked Battery arnt secondary weapons, so the discount only applies to the one attack per round the Bwing gets.

This. The B wing should be loaded for bear and barrel rolling like it's going over Niagara falls.

13 minutes ago, grandmoffjoe said:

This. The B wing should be loaded for bear and barrel rolling like it's going over Niagara falls.

They do have a point about survivability, though... I wrote these cards before the Scuurg raised the ante.

This has been already said but again it is harder to change an upgrade type, but again with cards being only a suggestion I guess they could just change a word and the icon on the back of the upgrade cards doesn't matter.

Still I think maybe adding a shield or having some sort of regen added to the B-wing E2 would go a long way.

14 hours ago, Darth Meanie said:

NO! NO!! NO!!!

Reinforce on a non-epic ship is a terrible idea that should never have been introduced to 100/6 play.

Especially as the expensive Huge ships always were quite susceptible to small ships fire, loosing points fast. Now they are even more struggling, with the hyperefficient cruise and harpoons missiles around.

With Reinforce in the 100/6 now, people here are crying for nerfs to reinforce. And thre most probably sooner or later will come a Pilot or Upgrade who/which ignores reinforce. Bye-bye, Huge ships, even more than already.

My problem with the B-wing has always been the cost vs survivability of the named pilots, even more now without a Biggs to protect them. A BSP is still decent, but it has been replaced by the Auzituck with its reinforce and 180 arc. For the B-wing to become a competitive option to me it would need a title to give it a reload action (Nera!) and a free evade action if an enemy ship is in your arc at the beginning of the attack phase.

Based on everything else in the game, the E2 mod should probably be a title, but it is fine as is. Either choose ordnance or a crew.

7 hours ago, Marinealver said:

This has been already said but again it is harder to change an upgrade type, but again with cards being only a suggestion I guess they could just change a word and the icon on the back of the upgrade cards doesn't matter.

Assuming these would be issued in a fix pack, just reprint it correctly and toss 3 in the expac. On the notion that people buy 1 of each release, that gives 1 for the original, one for the aces pack, and one for the new release.