Green Squadron A-Wings

By Ambigatos, in X-Wing

I was going to maybe paint some green squadron A-Wings, but were they actually green? If I remember correctly, Arvel Crynyd was green squadron and his was red. Are there any references to green A-Wings in the books I may have overlooked?

Edited by Ambigatos

Well, on their art, they are red.

But green is a nice color. I say go for it.

But, Phoenix Squadron had some Green A-Wings

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5 minutes ago, Commander Kaine said:

Well, on their art, they are red.

But green is a nice color. I say go for it.

The art on the Green Squadron Pilot is kinda' dark but it almost looks like it could be green, hmmm

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Green IS a nice color!

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3 hours ago, Ambigatos said:

The art on the Green Squadron Pilot is kinda' dark but it almost looks like it could be green, hmmm

It is red.

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Edited by bernh
3 minutes ago, bernh said:

It is red.

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I literally have never noticed that before. I always looked at them and thought they were green. I feel like my whole world is crumbling around me. It’s like finding out that Santa Clause is not only real but he’s also Hitler. I just... I can’t...

Thanks guys. You might have saved me some work haha. So in other words, there is no direct color coordination between the squad name and ships like sometimes happens with other squads. Although the green paint scheme does indeed look nice and I might go for a few anyways

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the original intention for RotJ to have the A-Wings be green or blue? And the Green/blue screen technology they were using had problems with it, so they were changed to the red we're more familiar with?

the original design was for them to be blue, and yes the bluescreen limitations forced the change to red. similar issue with the x-wings.

7 hours ago, TheWampa said:

Green IS a nice color!

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e'ffin masterful

Green is just a squadron name, like Red was Luke's squadron in A New Hope. Blue was in Rogue One for that squadron that came to assist the mission.

8 minutes ago, Superstrength79 said:

Green is just a squadron name, like Red was Luke's squadron in A New Hope. Blue was in Rogue One for that squadron that came to assist the mission.

Sometimes the squad name has been associated with colors. I don't think it's a strict rule, especially considering some of the desperate circumstances of the rebellion, but it seems to play out that way fairly often. For example, the X-Wings in Luke's red squadron had red stripes. The X-Wings in blue squadron at scariff had blue. Gold squadron Y-Wings in the trench were yellow. Blue squadron B-Wings at endor had blue etc etc.

7 hours ago, Herowannabe said:

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I literally have never noticed that before. I always looked at them and thought they were green. I feel like my whole world is crumbling around me. It’s like finding out that Santa Clause is not only real but he’s also Hitler. I just... I can’t...

Are any of you watching Legion on FX? This reminds me of the "virus" he was spreading , teaching the kid that red is green and green is red lol

3 hours ago, Ambigatos said:

Sometimes the squad name has been associated with colors. I don't think it's a strict rule, especially considering some of the desperate circumstances of the rebellion, but it seems to play out that way fairly often. For example, the X-Wings in Luke's red squadron had red stripes. The X-Wings in blue squadron at scariff had blue. Gold squadron Y-Wings in the trench were yellow. Blue squadron B-Wings at endor had blue etc etc.

Actually the bwings are red as well aren't they? The red circles are their paint job I thought.

Orange circles, I think, and Gray Squadron Y-wings were yellow.

EDIT Nevermind, after rewatching RotJ it looks like the Y-wings might be gray, and B-wings don't even have circles, only gray-ish painted wingtips.

Edited by eMeM

There's a few different thoughts here. First off, there's the white/black dress phenomenon approach. Is the A wing a white hull ship with a red stripe down the middle, or a green hulled ship with a dark purple/black stripe down the center? I slightly altered the coloring to help you see it like that.

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But then there's the technical limitations of ILM at the time of RotJ (and ANH actually). Little known fact, in the original novelization (and presumably the script) Luke is supposed to be in Blue 5. But they used a blue screen for the shots, so they changed it to red for the film. This is a true fact, which would indicate that the color of the ship IS related to the squadron name. This is further supported by the Y wings being gold with yellow stripes.

That's also the reason that the TIE fighters were gray in ANH and blue in the other movies. Lucas wanted them to be blue, but due to the technical limitations of having a blue screen, then ended up being gray. As I'm sure some of you know, Star Wars almost didn't happen as the plug was almost pulled on it numerous times, so he didn't have any wiggle room to "reshoot" so to speak. But that all changed after it released and was awesome. So then for ESB and RotJ, he switched to a green screen, and had his blue TIE fighters. But then the problem came up again for the A wings. X Wings had established themselves as Red Squadron, so they had those red stripes already claimed. But he couldn't go with green A wings for the same reason he couldn't go with blue X wings in ANH - he was using a green screen. Y wings were painted with gray insignias (though I'm not sure why they didn't stay with gold), and B wings had nothing (except the orange circle) for some reason. But the A wings needed something to look good, so they were given red stripes since they couldn't have green ones. I'm presuming the comments above about them originally supposed to be blue originate from the Ralph McQuarrie concept art, where the A wing is painted like a prototype A Wing. However, ILM had already moved onto green screens in ESB, so if Lucas desired to use that paint scheme, it would have been acceptable.

All of that comes together to lead me to believe that the A wings were supposed to have green stripes as illustrated by TheWampa, but technical limitations at the time made them change.

Edit: Note though that the picture above is actually very similar to some of the schemes shown in Rebels (except green, not blue) such as: image.png.f0658f14671f55043b7de2c0379b3dc5.png

Edited by Khyros