"I will finish what you started"

- Kylo Ren, Vader's Disciple

Welcome to the Card of the Day, continuing @player2072913 's idea to spark some discussion.

Today's card, is somewhat thematically, Kylo Ren. It's an Imperial Only, unique crew upgrade, and reads:

ACTION: Assign the " I'll Show You the Dark Side " Condition card to an enemy ship at Range 1-3.

The Condition reads:

When this card is assigned, if it is not already in play, the player who assigned it searches the Damage deck for 1 Damage card with the Pilot trait and may place it faceup on this card. Then shuffle the damage deck.

When you suffer critical damage during an attack, you are instead dealt the chosen faceup Damage card.

When there is no Damage card on this card, remove it.

What do you think of it? Is it weak or strong in this meta? What squads and builds would you use it in? Any neat interactions to note? What strategies should you use in a game? Any rules questions you have? How does it compare to the other unique Imperial Crews? Anything at all you want to say about the Supreme Edgelord of the Universe, this is the place!

I mean, we all know the kylo cheri combo

and really that's all you need to know

My favorite Crew Card hands down.

I'm toying around with putting Kylo in a tie bomber at high PS, maybe tomax, but it feels forced.

I like replacing palp in the shuttle with Kylo to get extra points for the aces.

I'm definitely excited about Kylo being shuttled around in the Reaper, hopefully soon!

This guy singlehandedly made me start putting Chewie on my Falcon builds instead of the usual Kanan.

We had a lot of TLJ fans in my local scene, so Kylo was literally everywhere. I needed to change the Rey build to be more thematic to keep pace!

Just so happened that the first time I played against Kylo crew, I was running Tel Trevura w/ Determination, Salvaged Astromech, Greedo, Title, and Hull Upgrade. My opponent kept assigning me the condition, and then swore every time I used Determination to negate the crit.

I miss that build...

Kylo is why Boba Fett Crew should be made Empire and Scum only- Empire gets Boba pilot, so it's thematic, I swear officer.

Give Empire Boba Crew and we will purge the meta of combo lists.

5 minutes ago, Innese said:

Just so happened that the first time I played against Kylo crew, I was running Tel Trevura w/ Determination, Salvaged Astromech, Greedo, Title, and Hull Upgrade. My opponent kept assigning me the condition, and then swore every time I used Determination to negate the crit.

I miss that build...

Weird, I used to fly that build all the time too! It's still fun, but not as good without the droid.

3 minutes ago, Kieransi said:

Weird, I used to fly that build all the time too! It's still fun, but not as good without the droid.

Yea not having the droid to burn a direct hit, damaged engines, or other bad ship crit hurts a lot.

15 minutes ago, Kaptin Krunch said:

Kylo is why Boba Fett Crew should be made Empire and Scum only- Empire gets Boba pilot, so it's thematic, I swear officer.

Give Empire Boba Crew and we will purge the meta of combo lists.

Speak up soldier, everyone needs to hear this!

I still dont like kylo... he is a hardcounter to some builds (corran etc) and very weak against others (crack swarm, fairship...)

I'm not a fan of that if a card is this listdefining...

5 minutes ago, MaxPower said:

I still dont like kylo... he is a hardcounter to some builds (corran etc) and very weak against others (crack swarm, fairship...)

I'm not a fan of that if a card is this listdefining...

I understand that criticism, but Kylo is a hard counter to things that themselves hard counter many archetypes.

This is a core element of the game at this point. I'm not saying it couldn't be solved, but it would require a drastic rebalance of the whole game to remove these elements

Stuuuuuupid strong and hard counters many lists.

BUT

Also just plain necessary for some Imperial lists which just plain rely on being able make anything higher PS than them, lower PS than them.

Also the reason I ran Determination when I ran Bossk, because Kylo is just SUCH a hard counter to him; he will rarely get to shoot against a Kylo list without it.

At the CAC I ran 3 T-70's. It was 2 Rogue Squad and Jess.

The 2 Rogue Squads had determination.

Between Integrated and determination the T-70's lasted a while against Kylo list.

It was a ton of fun to see the Kylo player scramble.

It's been said but Determination all of a sudden became a lot more viable as an EPT. Also this guy is fantastic on RAC or on a TIE Shuttle with Palpatine on a Lambda as a wingman.

I like the Ren Shuttle as a wingmate for QD and Vader. It means you can go hog wild and NOT USE VI on QD and Vader, because you should be able to punch down any PS9+s to 0 that threaten you.

Unless you run into Intensity Poe with a higher bid than you. Then you're super hosed.

On 4/16/2018 at 4:32 PM, ImperialOfficer said:

At the CAC I ran 3 T-70's. It was 2 Rogue Squad and Jess.

The 2 Rogue Squads had determination.

Between Integrated and determination the T-70's lasted a while against Kylo list.

It was a ton of fun to see the Kylo player scramble.

Jacksonville?

I run him as crew, along with Palp, on a Decimator (RAC). Vader at the wingman. Much fun, many crits. I'm not good at keeping the Decimator at range, though, so I get burned down fast lol

VT-49 Decimator (RAC)
- Calculation
- Emperor Palpatine
- Kylo Ren
- Dauntless
- Tactical Jammer

TIE Advance (Darth Vader)
- Expertise
- TIE/x1
- Engine Upgrade
- Advanced Targeting Computer

1 hour ago, Superstrength79 said:

I run him as crew, along with Palp, on a Decimator (RAC). Vader at the wingman. Much fun, many crits. I'm not good at keeping the Decimator at range, though, so I get burned down fast lol

VT-49 Decimator (RAC)
- Calculation
- Emperor Palpatine
- Kylo Ren
- Dauntless
- Tactical Jammer

you'll keep him alive much longer if you go for VI and an Engine upgrade. The large base boost really helps avoid arcs.

1 hour ago, Malabor said:

Jacksonville?

Aye

1 hour ago, ImperialOfficer said:

Aye

We met you there. In fact, I think you played my GF in the final match of the evening (she was flying Chopper/Fenn). I heard about your squad, looked like a blast to play!

Just now, Malabor said:

We met you there. In fact, I think you played my GF in the final match of the evening (she was flying Chopper/Fenn). I heard about your squad, looked like a blast to play!

Oh awesome. Yeah I remember you guys, you won your pod. And yes I did, I was hoping to take on a ghost/fenn with my janky triple T-70's.

It's one of those list that people see across the board and go, 3 t-70's, well this should be easy.

She played Ghost/Fenn really well, just came down to dice.

Hope you guys had a great time while you were here in Jax.

8 minutes ago, ImperialOfficer said:

Oh awesome. Yeah I remember you guys, you won your pod. And yes I did, I was hoping to take on a ghost/fenn with my janky triple T-70's.

It's one of those list that people see across the board and go, 3 t-70's, well this should be easy.

She played Ghost/Fenn really well, just came down to dice.

Hope you guys had a great time while you were here in Jax.

Yup, that was me! We had a blast playing up there, everyone was really cool and the players all treated us "out of towners" like one of their own. We'll definitely head that way for some x-wing fun again in the future.