So Autothrusters, Stealth device, and Veteran Instincts walk into a bar....

I'd be ok with it.

24 minutes ago, Darth Meanie said:

But... Luke can't use it. or Han with a Luke gunner. What's the point of a flavor card, if you can't use it in a thematic build?

12 minutes ago, Commander Kaine said:

But... Luke can't use it. or Han with a Luke gunner. What's the point of a flavor card, if you can't use it in a thematic build?

bathrobe luke has lower pilot skill than Red 5 luke, and Han isnt cocky, hes cocksure. it is thematic

So... we need a wormie pilot card

38 minutes ago, grandmoffjoe said:

So Autothrusters, Stealth device, and Veteran Instincts walk into a bar....

I'd be ok with it.

If they've got this, they ain't got VI. And you can make them get rid of it.

i like it. definately a cool card, but a little broken for 1 point.

a less extreme example of why might an A-wing with Cocky, PTL, and A.T.

the cocky ability doesnt provide stress and is worded so that an evade token works with it, so it has some insane synergy with rebel crew and turtly ships.

13 minutes ago, Darth Meanie said:

If they've got this, they ain't got VI. And you can make them get rid of it.

i think he meant its the best parts of all 3 of those cards for less than any of them

55 minutes ago, grandmoffjoe said:

So Autothrusters, Stealth device, and Adaptability walk into a bar....

FTFY

1 hour ago, Vontoothskie said:

i like it. definately a cool card, but a little broken for 1 point.

a less extreme example of why might an A-wing with Cocky, PTL, and A.T.

Wouldn't bother me too much on an A-Wing, baring one volley of Prockets, they can't put out much damage.

1 hour ago, Vontoothskie said:

the cocky ability doesnt provide stress and is worded so that an evade token works with it, so it has some insane synergy with rebel crew and turtly ships.

Yes, I would be a little more concerned about an Auzituck or Miranda, but how long can they avoid taking that first point of damage?

It's insanely overpowered.

Like mind boggling overpowered.

19 minutes ago, Vontoothskie said:

i think he meant its the best parts of all 3 of those cards for less than any of them

It doe not add a defense die like Stealth, so not exactly that.

It is discarded, unlike AT.

And, as pointed out above, it is weaker than VI (for the same price), and can be lost.

11 minutes ago, ABXY said:

Yes, I would be a little more concerned about an Auzituck or Miranda, but how long can they avoid taking that first point of damage?

^This.

And what if it were 2 points?? 4 points??

C'mon, it can't be more powerful than Expertise (I got my Focus on all the time for 4 points. . .)

1 minute ago, ABXY said:

Wouldn't bother me too much on an A-Wing, baring one volley of Prockets, they can't put out much damage.

Yes, I would be a little more concerned about an Auzituck or Miranda, but how long can they avoid taking that first point of damage?

sometimes forever. im guessing you didnt play in the heyday of Soontir Fel, but you basically couldnt hit him some games

my defender X-7 list (3 with stealth device ) ran a few games where it didnt take damage at all. granted that was from rolling well, but the point is damage mitigation is good.

damage mitigation is in general more powerful than regen due to consistency. so having 3-5 plus greens with a focus or evade and cocky could be a stress free path to immortality

4 minutes ago, Vontoothskie said:

sometimes forever. im guessing you didnt play in the heyday of Soontir Fel, but you basically couldnt hit him some games

my defender X-7 list (3 with stealth device ) ran a few games where it didnt take damage at all. granted that was from rolling well, but the point is damage mitigation is good.

damage mitigation is in general more powerful than regen due to consistency. so having 3-5 plus greens with a focus or evade and cocky could be a stress free path to immortality

Soontir Fel can't have it. He's PS 9. Nor can Miranda at PS 8.

This isn't a card for the great pilots. It's for the middling pilots who think they are hot ****.

2 minutes ago, Darth Meanie said:

It doe not add a defense die like Stealth, so not exactly that.

It is discarded, unlike AT.

And, as pointed out above, it is weaker than VI (for the same price), and can be lost.

^This.

And what if it were 2 points??

I think its more powerful than ptl or expertise, maybe even both combined.

it doesnt stress you and has absurd synergy with every defensive upgrade in the game. not trying to hassle you btw, i just think its crazy good

22 minutes ago, Darth Meanie said:

Soontir Fel can't have it. He's PS 9. Nor can Miranda at PS 8.

This isn't a card for the great pilots. It's for the middling pilots who think they are hot ****.

i understand that, i was mentioning soontir because this card is a better version of soontirs ability, but for everyone.

and again i love both the theme and ability, i just wonder if 3 points isnt a better cost. at 4 points i would still choose this over PTL in almost every one of my lists, and i love my PTL.

37 minutes ago, Darth Meanie said:

Soontir Fel can't have it. He's PS 9. Nor can Miranda at PS 8.

This isn't a card for the great pilots. It's for the middling pilots who think they are hot ****.

This card would be a 100% auto include and push all low ps ships without an ept into obscurity.

It's overpowered at 4pts... At 1pt it's absolutely insane.

12 minutes ago, Icelom said:

This card would be a 100% auto include and push all low ps ships without an ept into obscurity.

That is a point, but perhaps " further into obscurity" would be more accurate.

What if it was a unique title (allowing 2nd title) that could only be equipped to non-unique ships without an EPT...?

54 minutes ago, Darth Meanie said:

Nor can Miranda at PS 8.

Oh yeah, of course.

57 minutes ago, Darth Meanie said:

Nor can Miranda at PS 8.

Well.. one of the reasons is because she is PS 8. The other is that she has no slot to do so.

13 minutes ago, Commander Kaine said:

Well.. one of the reasons is because she is PS 8. The other is that she has no slot to do so.

D'oh! Where was my head at?!?!

1 hour ago, Vontoothskie said:

sometimes forever. im guessing you didnt play in the heyday of Soontir Fel, but you basically couldnt hit him some games

Yep - correct - but isn't there more auto-damage and ways to circumvent Agi nowadays?

42 minutes ago, Icelom said:

This card would be a 100% auto include and push all low ps ships without an ept into obscurity.

It's overpowered at 4pts... At 1pt it's absolutely insane.

5 points? 6 points??

As they say, if it's OP, it just cuz it isn't costed correctly.

25 minutes ago, ABXY said:

That is a point, but perhaps " further into obscurity" would be more accurate.

Yeah, that. "Harpoon Missiles kill swarms?? Aw, Swarm was dead already."

I didn't realized players knew there were pilots below PS 8 anymore .

I will admit, I'm surprised it is considered OP. +1 PS is free with adaptability. It doesn't add greens, it just makes one less fickle. It's low PS only. And it is disposable. So it has 3 limitations.

6 minutes ago, Darth Meanie said:

5 points? 6 points??

As they say, if it's OP, it just cuz it isn't costed correctly.

Yeah, that. "Harpoon Missiles kill swarms?? Aw, Swarm was dead already."

I didn't realized players knew there were pilots below PS 8 anymore .

I will admit, I'm surprised it is considered OP. +1 PS is free with adaptability. It doesn't add greens, it just makes one less fickle. It's low PS only. And it is disposable. So it has 3 limitations.

I think they are being a bit overzealous.

Adaptability is 0 points, AT is 2. It is better than AT, no arc or range restriction, but it is discarded after taking a hit... Plus it takes a better slot.

I think it should be 2 points. Maybe 3. Anything more than that is just unnecessary.

3 hours ago, Commander Kaine said:

But... Luke can't use it. or Han with a Luke gunner. What's the point of a flavor card, if you can't use it in a thematic build?

Because you’re supposed to take Han and Luke crew because Chewie (Leia) is flying the falcon in that scene. So it works out.

Just now, FlyingAnchors said:

Because you’re supposed to take Han and Luke crew because Chewie (Leia) is flying the falcon in that scene. So it works out.

Oh. Well, -2 nerd points for me.