I love the ion mechanic and love Dace Bonearm. I honestly just want him to work. I have two builds to incorporate both in to a list. I would like input on which list would perform better and why. I am also up for suggestions on how to change the list. Thanks!

List #1: really Latts is to help with the "PTL aces"

HWK-290: •Dace Bonearm (31)
Adaptability (+1) (0)
Twin Laser Turret (6)
•Latts Razzi (2)

Y-Wing: Syndicate Thug (23)
Ion Cannon Turret (5)

Y-Wing: Syndicate Thug (23)
Ion Cannon Turret (5)

Y-Wing: Syndicate Thug (23)
Ion Cannon Turret (5)

Total: 100/100

List #2: This was to have him permanently cloaked for the game to keep him and his ability around.

The thought was to swap out cloaking device with Vizago for black market slicer tools but I am up for the suggestions.

HWK-290: •Dace Bonearm (31)
•Moldy Crow (3)
Adaptability (+1) (0)
Dorsal Turret (3)
•Cikatro Vizago (0)
•Cloaking Device (2)

Y-Wing: Syndicate Thug (23)
Ion Cannon Turret (5)

Y-Wing: Syndicate Thug (23)
Ion Cannon Turret (5)

Y-Wing: Syndicate Thug (23)
Ion Cannon Turret (5)

Total: 100/100

New Squadron

(23) Dace Bonearm
(1) Attanni Mindlink
(5) Ion Cannon Turret
(3) Maul
(2) Ion Dischargers
(2) Pulsed Ray Shield
Total: 36 points

(20) Palob Godalhi
(1) Attanni Mindlink
(6) Twin Laser Turret
(3) Dengar
(2) Ion Dischargers
(2) Pulsed Ray Shield
Total: 34 points

(19) Torkil Mux
(6) Twin Laser Turret
(1) 4-LOM
(2) Ion Dischargers
(2) Pulsed Ray Shield
Total: 30 points

List total: 100 points

This has a ton of synergy. Ion Cannon Turret/Maul/Dace work together. Ion effect everywhere. Super annoying for the opponent.

17 minutes ago, Tbetts94 said:

New Squadron

(23) Dace Bonearm
(1) Attanni Mindlink
(5) Ion Cannon Turret
(3) Maul
(2) Ion Dischargers
(2) Pulsed Ray Shield
Total: 36 points

(20) Palob Godalhi
(1) Attanni Mindlink
(6) Twin Laser Turret
(3) Dengar
(2) Ion Dischargers
(2) Pulsed Ray Shield
Total: 34 points

(19) Torkil Mux
(6) Twin Laser Turret
(1) 4-LOM
(2) Ion Dischargers
(2) Pulsed Ray Shield
Total: 30 points

List total: 100 points

This has a ton of synergy. Ion Cannon Turret/Maul/Dace work together. Ion effect everywhere. Super annoying for the opponent.

Maul on Dace makes zero sense. If he is stressed he can not do his ability.

Trajectory Simulator Ion Bomb Nym

Also potential jank synergy between Bonearm and Jostero

You don't need tons of ion sources since his ability only procs once per round unless you somehow fenangle a trigger before he executes a green manuever. Only reliable way here is Conner net, and only Sol is any decent at farting those around

Maybe emon but he's real pricey

On the plus side, DEADEYE harpoon gchip Sol is also a **** good Boba Fett caddie

3 hours ago, stormblest said:

Maul on Dace makes zero sense. If he is stressed he can not do his ability.

You don’t Maul a roll, you use him to clear the stress that Dace received for the Ion. Then if you have multiple Ion effects, Dace can use his ability twice a round.

6 hours ago, Tbetts94 said:

You don’t Maul a roll, you use him to clear the stress that Dace received for the Ion. Then if you have multiple Ion effects, Dace can use his ability twice a round.

Nice idea. With Palob, you shouldn't have too much trouble getting a focus token so the shot is still modified. Of course, Torkil will end up stressed when you trigger Dace's abiltiy, so won't be able to use his own Pulse Ray shield without ending up with ion and stress and having a bit of a freak-out.

It's certainly a nice list. Ion Dischargers/Pulse Ray Shield/Dace is a nice combination to make the range 1 blind spot of the turrets a pretty unpleasant place - pile into range 1, damage a HWK, then either watch its shields come back up for no downside, or take an ion token AND damage.

Alternate version with Khiraxz:

sub out one of the HWKs for

• Captain Jostero
  • Vaksai
  • Deadeye
  • Ion Pulse Missile
  • Ion Discharger
  • Pulsed Ray Shield
  • Guidance Chips
  • Munitions Failsafe

Anyone getting tazed by an ion discharger potentially gets tagged by Dace and then shot by Jostero after that for good measure....

3 hours ago, Magnus Grendel said:

Nice idea. With Palob, you shouldn't have too much trouble getting a focus token so the shot is still modified. Of course, Torkil will end up stressed when you trigger Dace's abiltiy, so won't be able to use his own Pulse Ray shield without ending up with ion and stress and having a bit of a freak-out.

It's certainly a nice list. Ion Dischargers/Pulse Ray Shield/Dace is a nice combination to make the range 1 blind spot of the turrets a pretty unpleasant place - pile into range 1, damage a HWK, then either watch its shields come back up for no downside, or take an ion token AND damage.

Alternate version with Khiraxz:

sub out one of the HWKs for

• Captain Jostero
  • Vaksai
  • Deadeye
  • Ion Pulse Missile
  • Ion Discharger
  • Pulsed Ray Shield
  • Guidance Chips
  • Munitions Failsafe

Anyone getting tazed by an ion discharger potentially gets tagged by Dace and then shot by Jostero after that for good measure....

Nice call. Could do Predator/Torkil combo to get Dace 2 rerolls and then have Dengar on Torkil’s TLT’s for his rerolls.

New Squadron

(23) Dace Bonearm
(3) Predator
(5) Ion Cannon Turret
(3) Maul
(2) Ion Dischargers
(2) Pulsed Ray Shield
Total: 38 points

(19) Torkil Mux
(6) Twin Laser Turret
(3) Dengar
(2) Ion Dischargers
(2) Pulsed Ray Shield
Total: 32 points

(24) Captain Jostero
(0) Deadeye
(1) Ion Dischargers
(3) Harpoon Missiles
(0) Vaksai
(1) Pulsed Ray Shield
(0) Guidance Chips
(1) Vectored Thrusters
Total: 30 points

List total: 100 points

I don't think Dace/Jostero was fully resolved. I know there was rules debate about it, and fairly contentious debate, and I think the best conclusion was that it needed to be officially clarified.

Anyhow, I kinda like the thought of this:

Dace (VI, Maul, Ion Turret, Vectored Thrusters) 34 points

Kavil (VI, Ion Turret, [choice of Astromech], Vectored Thrusters) 32 points + droid

[some sort of 3rd ship in the 31-33 points available, Thweek perhaps, or PTL Guri to take advantage of Ion positioning]

5 hours ago, theBitterFig said:

I don't think Dace/Jostero was fully resolved. I know there was rules debate about it, and fairly contentious debate, and I think the best conclusion was that it needed to be officially clarified.

Note that I specifically said 'ion discharger' - that is definitely not 'whilst defending' so there is no question the combo works.

29 minutes ago, Magnus Grendel said:

Note that I specifically said 'ion discharger' - that is definitely not 'whilst defending' so there is no question the combo works.

Touche. Missed that.

My thoughts. I like Dace, and his mechanic tequires that Ion token, so, he needs to have a way to provide his own triggers.

Dace Bonearm(35) [Dace Bonearm(23), Ion Cannon Turret(5), Crack Shot(1), Dengar(3), Vectored Thrusters(2), Contraband Cybernetics(1)]

Tansarii Point Veteran(26) [Tansarii Point Veteran(17), Ion Cannon(3), Stealth Device(3), "Heavy Scyk" Interceptor(2), Attanni Mindlink(1)]

Tansarii Point Veteran(26) [Tansarii Point Veteran(17), Ion Cannon(3), Stealth Device(3), "Heavy Scyk" Interceptor(2), Attanni Mindlink(1)]

Sunny Bounder(12) [Sunny Bounder(14), "Light Scyk" Interceptor(-2)]