Knockback + Divine retribution = Now clear as mud

By The 4th Man, in Descent: Journeys in the Dark

Big Remy said:

I understand. However, think of each and every other instance this questions has come up. Its always been ruled the same way with very little dissent and not always by me. That was what I meant by "majority of players" so perhaps I used the wrong words there.

I seem to remember those instances differently from you. Perhaps I remember incorrectly.

Regardless, none of that stuff happened between the times that FFG made the first and second rulings, so it seemed to me very unlikely that any of those discussions were the cause of the change.

Antistone said:

Big Remy said:

I understand. However, think of each and every other instance this questions has come up. Its always been ruled the same way with very little dissent and not always by me. That was what I meant by "majority of players" so perhaps I used the wrong words there.

I seem to remember those instances differently from you. Perhaps I remember incorrectly.

Regardless, none of that stuff happened between the times that FFG made the first and second rulings, so it seemed to me very unlikely that any of those discussions were the cause of the change.

You're right, this was the cause of the change:

Divine Retribution and Knockback: The ruling that Divine Retribution would trigger before Knockback implies that Knockback takes effect after the hero loses wounds. However, the rules for Knockback state that after an attack with Knockback "inflicts at least one damage (before applying armor), the attacker may immediately move" the affected target, which implies that Knockback takes effect before inflicting wounds. Neither explicitly says when Knockback is actually triggered, which was what we should have asked in the first place (we apologize for this). Does Knockback trigger after inflicting damage or after inflicting wounds?

That, and only that, is what prompted that new entry.

The various knockback questions got out of hand. They were poorly worded when I finished compiling them and were so spread out that the various similar questions all seem to have gotten various different rulings at different times. I basically blame myself and the lack of time.

The DR question and the Corrupted terrain question where clear before the change, but the main Knockback timing and "Before the effects of armor" timing questions were unclear. Now the latter two timing questions are clear and the DR and Corrupted terrain questions are contradictory. Personally, I assumed they were going to stick with "after wounds" and remove the refences to "damage", but they went the other direction instead. Earlier I said Big Remy had won: he thought they were going to go back to the general concensus instead of removing the damage refences.

We tried to push through everything that was unclear, hence this change.

RESOLVED: See the thread about the FAQ update.