57 minutes ago, TallGiraffe said:

I think people tend to not remember that GW is a model company first so the model/painting part is very important to them while FFG is a game company so the game part has more priority then the painting part.

Selling their own line of paint gives them even more reason to promote the painting part too.

5 hours ago, Derrault said:

Fortunately, no.

It would be a real fools errand to create a game intended to reach a wide audience and then kneecap all your efforts by telling prospective players they also have to become painters.

Then why didn't they just stick with prepaints?

People who really really liked FFG games and liked the hobby stuff enough to do repaints etc were already part of their audience, if the narrative and hobby focused players Legion is supposed to broaden the appeal to are just going to be an afterthought, a token gesture, then I don't see the point of trying to appeal to us at all.

48 minutes ago, Yodhrin said:

Then why didn't they just stick with prepaints?

cost.

57 minutes ago, Yodhrin said:

Then why didn't they just stick with prepaints?

People who really really liked FFG games and liked the hobby stuff enough to do repaints etc were already part of their audience, if the narrative and hobby focused players Legion is supposed to broaden the appeal to are just going to be an afterthought, a token gesture, then I don't see the point of trying to appeal to us at all.

They want to expand their audience, not change it.

If you enjoy the painting aspect of the hobby you can do so in full, regardless if there are others who dont. And if the entire game and hobby is ruined for you because you will occasionally play against someone with an unpainted army then you should reconsider your own needs.

4 hours ago, Soulless said:

They want to expand their audience, not change it.

If you enjoy the painting aspect of the hobby you can do so in full, regardless if there are others who dont. And if the entire game and hobby is ruined for you because you will occasionally play against someone with an unpainted army then you should reconsider your own needs.

The point being, those inclined to war game is a much broader audience than the narrow subset including those inclined to also paint. Broad vs Narrow.

Funny thing is the painting sub-forum seems to be very active.

There also seems to be a good number of first timers.

All up I think this game will be quite positive with regards to the hobby aspects. I have seem "hobby games" where out of 30 players 2 have painted armies.

Even in my own limited example of the 4 players I have played all of them were in the process of painting their little guys.

I think if you want to expand this part of the hobby, rather than "not playing plastic" or otherwise excluding people you hold "paint days" and learn to paint sessions at your FLGS and help people, who may just need a helpful push.

On 4/6/2018 at 2:18 PM, syrilian said:

Has FFG said yet if official tournaments will require minis being painted?

of course not, otherwise they wouldn't have included those funny number tokens to keep track of what squad is what. When you paint them, you don't have to use those. You could even paint the bases different colors and keep track that way.