Right. The newly previewed Mantis Clan will be out before the end of the year, which has generated a good level of excitement for some of the ‘older’ players and hopefully some of the newer players too.
Well then, give us your thoughts. What do you wish to see for your clan? How would you wish they play out? Post your speculations.
I think they will all be unaligned, like the first char that we've seen. So will Yoritomo, as they wrote in this article that he would not be limited by any element to join a clan.
I am very happy to see him this early. It will take a while until they will be a fully featured clan, though. At least that is what I think. Unless they release a new unaligned stronghold (the one in the first pack) for Yoritomo's Alliance..
Raid battles again. Lets make this as confusing as possible!
I really really (REALLY) hope they don't leave them like a neutral faction. It was HORRIBLE when they did it on Warhammer Invasion. Four grey factions, ugh.
I just wonder how they will handle clan roles for the new factions that get released after clan roles have been selected for the year.
41 minutes ago, Ishi Tonu said:I just wonder how they will handle clan roles for the new factions that get released after clan roles have been selected for the year.
I hope they do a vote system for the role of a new clan. At least then people can choose what is the best role for the clan at the time with whatever roles are free.
I hope they just remove the role restriction.
It is nice that champions impact the lore. It is not nice that champions impact other players' gameplay and options.
53 minutes ago, Ishi Tonu said:I just wonder how they will handle clan roles for the new factions that get released after clan roles have been selected for the year.
Easy. Mantis just get the “Support of the Crab” role.
Seriously now, I suppose they can put a new role in the same box they release the new faction. Preferably, they release these factions a month or two before Worlds, so they’re stuck with imposed roles just one official tournament.
Yep... They will stay sub factions. Most will be neutral cards and some will belong to Main factions like those creatures to Crab and Phoenix clans. So a lot of Mantis, shadowland and so on neutrals and some that Are loyal to spesific factions (Main clans).
My more experienced L5R friend predicted that tournament results will affect what Main clans get these sub factions to their clan, aka what faction gets corrupted by Shadowland, what faction makes alliance with Nagas and so on. So it will depend on how story encolves based on tournaments!
So tournaments and story elements affect strongly how you can build your decks and how you faction will be evolving. Very L5R like way of doing it.
Edited by Hannibal_pjvWhile I do like the idea of early Mantis neutrals, I do think that a full Mantis Clan faction should come soon, and that leaves these early neutrals in an interesting place.
It's obvious the reason Mantis will be neutral is because they will be the new imperials... ::BOOM:: Mantis Clan Coup! Oh what fun!
1 hour ago, Hannibal_pjv said:Yep... They will stay sub factions. Most will be neutral cards and some will belong to Main factions like those creatures to Crab and Phoenix clans. So a lot of Mantis, shadowland and so on neutrals and some that Are loyal to spesific factions (Main clans).
My more experienced L5R friend predicted that tournament results will affect what Main clans get these sub factions to their clan, aka what faction gets corrupted by Shadowland, what faction makes alliance with Nagas and so on. So it will depend on how story encolves based on tournaments!
So tournaments and story elements affect strongly how you can build your decks and how you faction will be evolving. Very L5R like way of doing it.
Source?
2 hours ago, Barbacuo said:I hope they just remove the role restriction.
It is nice that champions impact the lore. It is not nice that champions impact other players' gameplay and options.
I would love to see 'Great' Clans fighting it out for roles because of our Mantis awesomeness.
Quote"Well, we had to take Seeker of Water for Phoenix. Otherwise we lose Mantis Tenkinja from our Decks...."
13 hours ago, LordBlunt said:Well then, give us your thoughts. What do you wish to see for your clan? How would you wish they play out? Post your speculations.
More.
More More More!
A stronghold that allows all Mantis, regardless of Role. With a good ability, like ignoring Honor loss or bonus card draw.
And the Fox and the Wasp to join in.
Looking forward to the Sparrow stronghold.
Well, a guy can dream. I doubt there is really much design space for too many minor clans right now.
17 hours ago, Suzume Tomonori said:Looking forward to the Sparrow stronghold.
Well, a guy can dream. I doubt there is really much design space for too many minor clans right now.
You mean like this?
4 hours ago, Mirith said:
Why do you guys always got to rub that one in?
(Also, technically that wasn't a Sparrow stronghold; it was a Spider stronghold.)
I look forward to building decks indicative of a Phoenix/Mantis partnership. With most of the grudges from the old lore vacated by the reset (I mean, the Phoenix sheltered Osano-Wo's murderer... but they forked him over when Osano-Wo's divinity was proven, which technically means that the issue is settled), I'd be interested in charting a new, less utterly tiresome course for relations between the two.
well dragonfly was confirmed in the lore so maybe we'll see some of them as neutrals
Is to soon to the mantis be a faction, it was in the second day of thunder wen the prick of yoritomo bullied rokugan
4 hours ago, Daigotsu Arashi said:Is to soon to the mantis be a faction, it was in the second day of thunder wen the prick of yoritomo bullied rokugan
different timeline, different rules
Too many clans will mean fewer cards per clan per pack.
Just keep the “main” clans as they are now and add the minor clans as neutrals or to specific clans.
Squeee!
8 hours ago, Daigotsu Arashi said:Is to soon to the mantis be a faction, it was in the second day of thunder wen the prick of yoritomo bullied rokugan
Mantis existed well before the 2nd day of Thunder. The 2nd Day of Thunder is when they "earned" their great clan status.
20 hours ago, llamaman88 said:different timeline, different rules
16 hours ago, Schmoozies said:Mantis existed well before the 2nd day of Thunder. The 2nd Day of Thunder is when they "earned" their great clan status.
Yeah, you're all correct, mantis are descendants of osano wo, and had multiples names in history. But in this reebot people wants things right now something that taked a long time to happen. Now Mantis are a minor clan that the rest of rokugan only tolerate it presence for trade, you don't want a mantis in your court.
The first mantis character is a shugenja and we know in "this time" there are not famous because of them. We don't know if the alliance of three men happened.
I think Mantis will only became a major clan after the second day of thunder, for 3 reasons:
1 - The old5R mantis players base is large, I don't think they will disappoint so many people..
2 - I don't think they will change the lore so much, I think they will keep the main stories going, creating new directions for some characters.. Changing much would result in many work and many criticisms.
3 - Trying to maintain balance for 7 factions is hard enought atm.
That said it is not what I would like, I would particularly like for bigger changes, and let the haters hate, for example:
The old story is very repetitive sometimes, and a good portion of the new5R community is made by old players, that already know the old story. Major changes could be great cause they will make us think were the story will diverge from the old one, what the future holds for Toturi, Yoritomo, etc.. For example, it could be great if at some point a great clan can be destroyed after a war and relegated at a minor clan, and thus they open the way for a new clan to take its place (which would be nice to control the issue of having too many factions to balance). And later that clan could emerge again, or could make a alliance with the shadowlands, nagas or with another clan to claim the throne..
Surprise us FFG!
7 minutes ago, L5RBr said:For example, it could be great if at some point a great clan can be destroyed after a war and relegated at a minor clan
Wait to tsuke goings nuts