Elemental Cycle & Scorpion Pack Spoilers

By Tonbo Karasu, in Legend of the Five Rings: The Card Game

New lore...Kitsune allies with the Scorpion. Mantis get the Cat Clan instead.

18 minutes ago, Kaito Kikaze said:

New lore...Kitsune allies with the Scorpion. Mantis get the Cat Clan instead.

Don't be silly.

We're Mantis. We get the Fox and the Castle of the Cat. All your Minor Clan are belong to Us.

Just now, Coyote Walks said:

Don't be silly.

We're Mantis. We get the Fox and the Castle of the Cat. All your Minor Clan are belong to Us.

If you do...I might go Mantis. But that's a big if.

6 minutes ago, Coyote Walks said:

Don't be silly.

We're Mantis. We get the Fox and the Castle of the Cat. All your Minor Clan are belong to Us.

I thought we were starting by taking over the Yasuki this time, put those merchants to a good use for once.

23 minutes ago, Schmoozies said:

I thought we were starting by taking over the Yasuki this time, put those merchants to a good use for once.

The perfidious piracy of the Mantis knows no bounds! They're stealing entire Clans now!

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1 hour ago, Schmoozies said:

Kitsune are too honorable for the Scorpion. Plus you know the whole Fox clan might lose it if one of their associated spirits got co-opted by the Scorpion.

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That troll seems pretty punchy!

A little odd to me that he can have 5 political skill, but maybe I don't know Rokugani trolls :P

Hawk Tattoo is the kind of stuff I remember from the old game. This with Hurricane Punch is really shaping up to be the monk expansion all us kung fu fighting freaks have been waiting for. Can't wait to try this stuff out

7 minutes ago, Ishi Tonu said:

Hawk Tattoo is the kind of stuff I remember from the old game. This with Hurricane Punch is really shaping up to be the monk expansion all us kung fu fighting freaks have been waiting for. Can't wait to try this stuff out

Don't forget that new Province. Ready a Monk when they attack, even if that Monk gets coverted out, they can still show up and Hurricane Punch. Also, Volcanic Troll has amazing synergy with Mantra of Fire in a Monk deck. It makes the opponent WANT to attack you using the Fire Ring, especially if they are First Player.

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45 minutes ago, AradonTemplar said:

That troll seems pretty punchy!

A little odd to me that he can have 5 political skill, but maybe I don't know Rokugani trolls :P

whitewashing trolls!!! ?

39 minutes ago, Kakita Shiro said:

haha

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Along with 29 other Mantis cards with Kitsune in the name....

We Win :D

Lion and/or Unicorn: "We have an Army!"

Dragon: "We have a Cave Troll

54 minutes ago, sndwurks said:

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Just now, sndwurks said:

Don't forget that new Province. Ready a Monk when they attack, even if that Monk gets coverted out, they can still show up and Hurricane Punch.

cough-- Falcon Punch

Just now, sndwurks said:

Don't forget that new Province. Ready a Monk when they attack, even if that Monk gets coverted out, they can still show up and Hurricane Punch.

Yeah I like that FFG is making an effort to bring back some of the themes that were well liked in the old game. IMO they have done an amazing job of giving the game the feel of the old game while still being it's own thing. This approach to monks feels very familiar and at the same time fresh and new. Really looking forward to see how they continue to add the various sub-themes for the clans and the new factions.

1 hour ago, AradonTemplar said:

That troll seems pretty punchy!

A little odd to me that he can have 5 political skill, but maybe I don't know Rokugani trolls :P

Why? You don’t believe a troll can be skilled enough to win in the political game?

Mr. Trump wants to have a few words with you...

1 hour ago, AradonTemplar said:

That troll seems pretty punchy!

A little odd to me that he can have 5 political skill, but maybe I don't know Rokugani trolls :P

What you aren't entertained by the idea of a Cave Troll dropping a triple policy debate beat down to strip your opponents hand in one turn.

1 hour ago, Kakita Shiro said:

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Not saying it can't happen (although if memory serves at least one of those was a story prize) but the Kitsune had a whole family that was riddled with Fox Wives.

Just now, Schmoozies said:

What you aren't entertained by the idea of a Cave Troll dropping a triple policy debate beat down to strip your opponents hand in one turn.

More like a Cave Troll with two Kakita Blades dropping trip-PD, am I right?

Considering the Zokujin were dragon allied in old5r (or at least they were by the time I started playing is celestial, so it may have been different earlier on), and we got a troll instead, it's possible that they're replacing the Zokujin entirely with something else.

1 hour ago, psychie said:

Considering the Zokujin were dragon allied in old5r (or at least they were by the time I started playing is celestial, so it may have been different earlier on), and we got a troll instead, it's possible that they're replacing the Zokujin entirely with something else.

At this point in the story line they are a slave species that work for the Lion clan almost exclusively.

14 hours ago, sndwurks said:

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Do you know who liked a lot this tatoo?

Shoju.

16 hours ago, Coyote Walks said:

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I only brought up the Scorpion ones to point out that it had been done before can could happen again.

Kitsune, like all spirits, are enigmatic beings...they'll do whatever they do for their own reasons, which may appear to make no sense to mortals.

(Which is a convenient way of saying that, when it comes to the non-humans in general, and spirits in particular, the story can have them do pretty much anything and fit-in anywhere, if it suits the particular dramatic purpose...)

On 4/4/2018 at 11:14 PM, Tonbo Karasu said:

Hello all, and welcome once again to a thread of spoilers as I collect the.

Here is the Google sheet I'm recording it all on -> Linky

I've stuck the Scorpion on at the bottom, rather than start a separate thread for them.

At this point, I'm just putting the full list in, complete with gaps. I have highlighted my speculation in dark red. And here is what we know:

Pack Card Name Faction Deck Type Traits Rules
4E:1BotK 1 Hisu Mori Toride Y Lion Stronghold Fort.
4E:1BotK 2 Sacred Sanctuary Dragon Province Air Temple
4E:1BotK 3 Demonstrating Excellence Neutral Province Air
4E:1BotK 4 Crab Dynasty Character
4E:1BotK 5 Crab Dynasty Holding
4E:1BotK 6 Fu Sui Disciple Crane Dynasty Character Shugenja. Air.
4E:1BotK 7 Matsu Seventh Legion Lion Dynasty Character Bushi. Army. Cavalry.
4E:1BotK 8 Lion Dynasty Holding
4E:1BotK 9 Isawa Uona Y Phoenix Dynasty Character Shugenja. Air.
4E:1BotK 10 Scorpion Dynasty Character Shugenja. Air.
4E:1BotK 11 Shinjo Shono Y Unicorn Dynasty Character Bushi. Cavalry. Commander. Pride.
4E:1BotK 12 Shiotome Encampment Unicorn Dynasty Holding Battlefield.
4E:1BotK 13 Kudaka Y Neutral Dynasty Character Shugenja. Air. Mantis Clan.
4E:1BotK 14 Neutral Dynasty Holding
4E:1BotK 15 The Mirror's Gaze Crane Conflict Attachment Spell. Air.
4E:1BotK 16 Dragon Conflict
4E:1BotK 17 Hurricane Punch Dragon Conflict Event Kiho. Air.
4E:1BotK 18 Even the Odds Lion Conflict Event Tactic.
4E:1BotK 19 Winds of Change Phoenix Conflict Event Spell. Air. Air only.
4E:1BotK 20 Scorpion Conflict Event
4E:2TL 21 Teachings of the Elements Phoenix Province Earth
4E:2TL 22 Province
4E:2TL 23 Upholding Authority Neutral Province Earth
4E:2TL 24 Apprentice Earthcaller Crab Dynasty Character Shugenja. Earth.
4E:2TL 25 Kuni Yori Y Crab Dynasty Character Shugenja. Earth. Daimyo.
4E:2TL 26 Crane Dynasty
4E:2TL 27 Dragon Dynasty
4E:2TL 28 Lion Dynasty
4E:2TL 29 Scorpion Dynasty
4E:2TL 30 Sneaky Shinjo Unicorn Dynasty Character Bushi.
4E:2TL 31 Marauding Oni. Neutral Dynasty Character Oni. Shadowlands.
4E:2TL 32 Spreading the Darkness Crab Conflict Event Maho. Spell. Earth.
4E:2TL 33 Crane Conflict
4E:2TL 34 Dragon Conflict
4E:2TL 35 ...Authority Lion Conflict Attachment Item Earth only. Restricted.
4E:2TL 36 Feral Ningyo Phoenix Conflict Character Creature.
4E:2TL 37 Oracle of Stone Phoenix Conflict Event. Spell. Earth.
4E:2TL 38 Scorpion Conflict
4E:2TL 39 Unicorn Conflict
4E:2TL 40 Sabotage Neutral Conflict Event
4E:3TFW 41 Abandoning Honour Neutral Province Fire
4E:3TFW 42 Hiruma Kogoe Y Crab Dynasty Character Bushi. Scout. Sincerity.
4E:3TFW 43 Crane Dynasty
4E:3TFW 44 Master Alchemist Dragon Dynasty Character Shugenja. Fire.
4E:3TFW 45 The Wrath of the Kami Y Dragon Dynasty Holding Shrine. 1/deck.
4E:3TFW 46 Lion Dynasty
4E:3TFW 47 Phoenix Dynasty
4E:3TFW 48 Phoenix Dynasty
4E:3TFW 49 Scorpion Dynasty
4E:3TFW 50 Battle Maiden Recruit Unicorn Dynasty Character Bushi. Battle Maiden. Cavalry.
4E:3TFW 51 Wicked Tetsubo Crab Conflict Attachment Weapon. Restricted.
4E:3TFW 52 ...ing Favour Crane Conflict Attachment Item. Fire only.
4E:3TFW 53 Crane Conflict
4E:3TFW 54 Smoke Dragon Conflict Attachment Spell. Fire.
4E:3TFW 55 Lion Conflict
4E:3TFW 56 Scorpion Conflict
4E:3TFW 57 Shiksha Scout Unicorn Conflict Character Creature. Scout.
4E:3TFW 58 Invocation of Ash Unicorn Conflict Attachment Spell. Fire. Meishodo.
4E:3TFW 59 Neutral Conflict
4E:3TFW 60 Neutral Conflict
4E:4TEaF 61 Province
4E:4TEaF 62 Neutral Province Water
4E:4TEaF 63 Ikebana Artisan Crane Dynasty Character Courtier.
4E:4TEaF 64 Volcanic Troll Dragon Dynasty Character Creature.
4E:4TEaF 65 Lion Dynasty
4E:4TEaF 66 Phoenix Dynasty
4E:4TEaF 67 Disguised Protector Scorpion Dynasty Character Bushi. Shinobi. Yojimbo.
4E:4TEaF 68 Master of the Swift Waves Unicorn Dynasty Character Shugenja. Water. Cavalry.
4E:4TEaF 69 Iuchi Shahai Y Unicorn Character Shugenja. Water.
4E:4TEaF 70
4E:4TEaF 71 Nezumi Infiltrator Crab Conflict Character Creature. Scout.
4E:4TEaF 72 Crab Conflict
4E:4TEaF 73 Menacing Iron Warrior Crane Conflict Character Bushi.
4E:4TEaF 74 Soul Beyond Reproach Crane Conflict Event
4E:4TEaF 75 Hawk Tattoo Dragon Conflict Attachment
4E:4TEaF 76 Heroic Resolve Lion Conflict Attachment Condition.
4E:4TEaF 77 Conflict
4E:4TEaF 78 Conflict
4E:4TEaF 79 Deceptive Offer Scorpion Conflict Event
4E:4TEaF 80 Force of the River Unicorn Conflict Attachment Spell. Water. Meishodo.
4E:5AaN 81 Stronghold
4E:5AaN 82 Province
4E:5AaN 83 Raging Battleground Lion Province Void
4E:5AaN 84 Neutral Province Void
4E:5AaN 85
4E:5AaN 86
4E:5AaN 87
4E:5AaN 88
4E:5AaN 89
4E:5AaN 90
4E:5AaN 91
4E:5AaN 92
4E:5AaN 93
4E:5AaN 94
4E:5AaN 95
4E:5AaN 96 Shosuro Sadako Y Scorpion Conflict Character Bushi. Shadow. Shinobi.
4E:5AaN 97 Mark of Shame Scorpion Conflict Attachment Condition. Air only.
4E:5AaN 98
4E:5AaN 99 Dispatch Unicorn Conflict Event Limited.
4E:5AaN 100 Perfect Land Ethos Neutral Conflict Event Philosophy.
4E:6EU 101 Stronghold
4E:6EU 102
4E:6EU 103
4E:6EU 104
4E:6EU 105
4E:6EU 106
4E:6EU 107
4E:6EU 108
4E:6EU 109
4E:6EU 110 Minami Kaze Regularsr Unicorn Dynasty Character Bushi. Army. Cavalry.
4E:6EU 111 Mantis Tenkinja Neutral Dynasty Character Shugenja. Water. Mantis Clan. Water only.
4E:6EU 112 Awakened Tsukumogami Neutral Dynasty Character Spirit. Void. Void only.
4E:6EU 113
4E:6EU 114
4E:6EU 115
4E:6EU 116
4E:6EU 117
4E:6EU 118
4E:6EU 119
4E:6EU 120 Unleash the Djinn Unicorn Conflict Event Spell. Fire. Meishodo. Fire only.
5UotE 1 Kyuden Bayushi Y Scorpion Stronghold Palace.
5UotE 2 Scorpion Province
5UotE 3 Support of the Scorpion Role
5UotE 4 Alibi Artist Scorpion Dynasty Character
5UotE 5 Scorpion Dynasty Character
5UotE 6 Scorpion Dynasty Character
5UotE 7 Scorpion Dynasty Character
5UotE 8 Bayushi Aramoro Y Scorpion Dynasty Character Bushi. Shinobi.
5UotE 9 Scorpion Dynasty Character
5UotE 10 Bayushi's Whisperers Y Scorpion Dynasty Character Army.
5UotE 11 Court of Deception Scorpion Dynasty Holding
5UotE 12 Crab Dynasty Character
5UotE 13 Dragon Dynasty Character
5UotE 14 Akodo Kage Y Lion Dynasty Character Courtier.
5UotE 15 Phoenix Dynasty Character
5UotE 16 Unicorn Dynasty Character
5UotE 17 Neutral Dynasty
5UotE 18 Scorpion Conflict Character
5UotE 19 Scorpion Conflict Character
5UotE 20 Scorpion Conflict Attachment
5UotE 21 Stolen Breath Scorpion Conflict Attachment Poison.
5UotE 22 Duty Scorpion Conflict Event Philosophy. 1/deck.
5UotE 23 Scorpion Conflict Event
5UotE 24 Scorpion Conflict Event
5UotE 25 Scorpion Conflict Event
5UotE 26 Doji Fumiki Y Crane Conflict Character Courtier.
5UotE 27 Neutral Conflict
5UotE 28 Neutral Conflict
4E:? Ikoma Ikehata Y Lion Character
4E:? Matsu Mitsuko Y Lion Character Bushi. Cavalry. Commander.
4E:? Pragmatism Crab Conflict Attachment Condition.
4E:? Ofushikai Y Phoenix Conflict Attachment Ancestral. Restricted.
4E:? Infiltrator Scorpion Conflict Attachment Follower.

Breath of the Kami releases in a week and we still missing # 4, 5, 8, 10, 14, 16 & 20.

1 hour ago, BayushiFugu said:

Breath of the Kami releases in a week and we still missing # 4, 5, 8, 10, 14, 16 & 20.

Yes, and I have no particular idea of what they are.

16 might be the Dragon Clan Ancestral thing (their equivalent of Ofushikai, which I'm hoping is part of a sequence).

If my guess for the Scorpion 5-cost is right, 10 could be Yogo Junzo.