Two core sets or get the expansions?

By urloony, in Star Wars: Legion

If this has been asked and answered please direct me to the right place.

Are their upgrade cards in the expansion sets that are not available in the core set with the same models? I'm debating whether or not to just get two core sets and forget about their corresponding model expansions. But if say the Stormtrooper or Rebel trooper expansions have different cards or upgrades only available in those expansions, then that would seem to be the way to go.

While the expansions do have cards not found in the core set the next releases of snow troopers and fleet troopers also have them so you could buy those later on. The trooper sculpts are all the same.

The at rt and speeder bikes are like the trooper with a card in there not in the core but they do have different sculpts so that may be another incentive.

In my opinion I think it is best to just buy 2 core sets plus a at st and/or airspeeder and go from there. You get so much value from the core sets.

Two core sets. There's nothing in the expansions yet that seem that important enough. Impact grenades seem more important for rebels but not worth buying 5 expansions for. I haven't missed them yet. If you buy the AtSt and t47 you'd be set with everything you need for future use and games. I think both vehicles need some assistance to overcome the trooper meta at the beginning.

The most cost effective and competitive armies both factions could build are still more cost effective buying 3 core sets

Edited by buckero0

2 core for sure

I was going to ask the same question.

Both trooper packs come with the Grapling Hook card, which is only good if you play on terrain with a lot of climbing needed. And you also get Impact Grenades, which can help against units with armor. But as others said, you can get those cards in other packs.

Both the Speeder bikes and the AT-RT come with the Comms Jammer card, which only works at range one and only stops those units from receiving orders during the Command phase. Also this card comes in other packs.

Core Set costs $90

Total Cost $90 USD

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Speeder Set $25

2x Stormtroopers $50

AT-RT $25

2x Rebel Troopers $50

Movement Tool & Range Ruler $15

Dice Pack $15

Total Cost $180 USD

So for $90 more you get 10 new cards (2 in each trooper pack and 1 in each vehicle pack) that you don’t get from another core set? But you won’t get cards like Tageting Scopes, or Concussion Grenades, which come in the Core Set (4 of each), but not in the smaller packs listed above. It’s also important to note that those 10 new cards are only duplicates of the three listed above, so you will get 4 grapling hooks, 4 Impact Grenades and 2 Comms Jammers.

It’s not even adventageous to get the small sets if you’re doing one faction. It Still ends up being $15 more to get 5 cards you didn’t get from the core set.

AT-RT $25

2x Rebel Troopers $50

Movement Tool & Range Ruler $15

Dice Pack $15

Total Cost $105 USD

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OR

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Speeder Set $25

2x Stormtroopers $50

Movement Tool & Range Ruler $15

Dice Pack $15

Total Cost $105 USD

Verdict: Save your money and get 2 core sets. You’ll get more for your buck and even have an extra Luke or Vader to do some fun mods to.

Just my 2 cents.

Does anyone else see it differently?

Edited by JediPartisan

I only got one core, with all the expansions close to release I just dont think I want double the content of the box.

If there are two of you who want different factions though, splitting two cores is perfect!

Edited by Soulless
2 minutes ago, Soulless said:

I only got one core, with all the expansions close to release I just dont think I want double the content of the box.

Fair enough. And my calculations may be off, you don’t really need the extra Range Rulers and Movement tools, so maybe if you go one faction, it makes sense.

But if you can find someone who doesn’t want the other faction, you might be able to make a better deal, say by splitting two core sets.

5 hours ago, KiraYamatoSF said:

The at rt and speeder bikes are like the trooper with a card in there not in the core but they do have different sculpts so that may be another incentive.

In my opinion I think it is best to just buy 2 core sets plus a at st and/or airspeeder and go from there. You get so much value from the core sets.

I think they are all the same sculpts, but I’m not 100% on that.

I tried looking at the add photos and they are the same as the core, but doesn’t mean that’s what’s in the box.

Can someone with the expansions confirm if the sculpts are the same or not?

The speeder bikes have the same leader model as core but a different wingman sculpt. They also come with two Comms Jammers.

29 minutes ago, JediPartisan said:

I think they are all the same sculpts, but I’m not 100% on that.

I tried looking at the add photos and they are the same as the core, but doesn’t mean that’s what’s in the box.

Can someone with the expansions confirm if the sculpts are the same or not?

The At-rt i know from the core has the driver holding his A280 rifle in his right hand while the individual expansion he is using both hands to hold the handlebar.

@urloony

Are you planning on owning and collecting both factions? If so then a second Core is essential for value, as you're basically getting a whole set of expansions for free.

If you're only collecting Rebels or Imperials, then dollar for dollar it works out that you get more units at MSRP for your chosen side, plus a free set of dice/movement tools/range rulers.

If it's only one side you're collecting, then you'll have 2 cores worth of materials you can no doubt find a buyer for if you price them to move (sell them for roughly half retail) and you'll make some money back that way.

All you're missing from the expansions boxes for your troopers are Grappling Hooks and Impact Grenades. If you're doing both factions, you'll have more than enough when the Fleet Troopers/Snowtroopers release. If you're collecting only one faction, I'd still urge you to buy the second Core over expansion packs because you'll get your 3rd required Corps unit, and have a large 800pt army ready to rock. Pick up a Speeder/AT-ST after that and you've got all you need.

I don't see OP for this game starting in the immediate future so pick-up games should let you proxy the Impact Grenades/Grappling Hooks in the mean time while you wait for the Snow/Fleet Troopers to show up.

I just don't see the value in the retail expansions (other than the Speeder/AT-ST) currently, unless you're hard up to have a different AT-RT driver and a Speeder Bike pilot with both hands on the wheel as it were.

9 hours ago, JediPartisan said:

I think they are all the same sculpts, but I’m not 100% on that.

I tried looking at the add photos and they are the same as the core, but doesn’t mean that’s what’s in the box.

Can someone with the expansions confirm if the sculpts are the same or not?

AT_RT driver is a different sculpt (both hands on handlebars, rifle on backpack). One of the Speederbikes is a different sculpt (leaning forward, staggered handlebars about to bank or dodge).

I've already got a broken movement tool, and you'll need at least double the dice. I like the cards from the individual expansions, I just think that by the time you fill out the collection( I bought 2 cores, ATST and T47 ) and the only thing I'm missing is the iMpact grenades. But I plan on buying at least one Fleet Trooper and Snow Trooper set, so I think I'll be fine. I haven't felt the need to run grenades on anything yet as most units are half dead or worse if your opponent is trying and you get too close. I don't know that grenades are ever worth it unless you literally cannot fit another unit in at least at this point. If I really need 5 copies of impact grenades I'll find a way to get them or break down and buy another set. Most lists are going to run 3-5 corps units so that's the maximum # grenade cards you'll need. Frankly, especially with the way the meta is now, You'd do better off fitting out another unit of shooters than putting grenades on all o f your units. Right now units win games and the lists that have struggled are the ones that only have 3 corps units andthey die.

Wishing now i had gotten 2 x Cores rather than 1 x Core and 1 x Stormtrooper and 1 x Rebel Trooper set

Oh and you forgot to add Luke, Vader and their associated cards into the equation.

Thanks for the replies. It looks like two cores is the way to go. I do like the idea of alternate sculpts, but could always modify.

On 4/2/2018 at 2:47 AM, JediPartisan said:

I think they are all the same sculpts, but I’m not 100% on that.

I tried looking at the add photos and they are the same as the core, but doesn’t mean that’s what’s in the box.

Can someone with the expansions confirm if the sculpts are the same or not?

The stormtrooper set also has a slightly different posed trooper. (Or I was really bad at gluing them consistently)