First Italian Official Tournament - Little Report and Analysis

By Guest, in Warhammer: Invasion The Card Game

Hi, people. :)

I'm proud to write a bunch of lines for our first "official" tournament. I'm the italian organized play coordinator for "Giochi Uniti", now. Not a job, just passion.

We have a "customized" (so to say) official national league and yesterday (sunday 14th) the first tournament (qualifier, that's how we call it) took place.

I'm not writing all my personal tournament report, but a little analysis on the decks I saw and the "funny" top 4.

WHERE?

It happened during a big events (one of the biggest events in Italy): "Modena Play".

It's a great convention/meeting/everything where you can try new games, play the old ones, have some good time with the family and play a bunch of tournaments (boardgames, card games, RPG and so on).

SO: WHAT HAPPENED?

We were 10 players (the maximum number was 16, so, not that bad). 2-3 players didn't come for some "weather" issues (we had snow for three/four days).

We played 3 swiss rounds, then TOP 4.

These are the decks, with numbers:

- Orc Blitz (classic mono Orc);

- Orc Aggro-Control (mine...I did pretty bad. I didn't play for a month and a half and played Orcs 'cause they're simplier than other decks I had...But they're definitely not my race serio.gif);

- Empire-Control (mono Empire, with some Developement interactions and movement);

- Caos-Control (big stuff, lot of removal/corruption);

- Destruction Aggro-Control Deck (3 races deck, with Caos Capital and some splashes for Dark Elf/Orc control stuff);

- Dwarves (good mono-Dwarf control deck);

- Dwarves (mono-Dwarf deck);

- Empire/Dwarves (built with a Dwarf base, but with Empire's Capital. Basically, a JOV deck);

- Caos (mono-caos aggro-control Deck).

- Caos Total Control (big control deck with lots of developements and cheap stuff).

HOW'S THE TOURNAMENT?

As I said, Swiss Round and TOP4. Classic "best 3" matches. Sideboarding is allowed in our league.

During the swiss rounds happened lots of interesting things: The mono-Dwarves control deck did pretty well against a couple of Caos match.

Mono-Empire was strong (good player) and won the first 2 rounds without any trouble.

The "Caos Total Control" did a great job against almost any race it faced (very good player). It's lost against ORC BLITZ during the semi-finals and went 3rd.

Orc's not that overpowered, just too fast, but things are going to change...It's more a matter of "learn to play well against them" I guess.

THE TOP 4

The Great thing was that in the top4 we had all of the 4 Capitals of the Core Set: Orcs, Caos, Empire, Dwarf (with splashed empire, but basically, Dwarf).

Great thing, IMHO. gran_risa.gif

FIRST SEMI-FINAL: Orc Blitz vs Caos Total Control

Nice Game. Caos did well first game, but the Orcs were too "solid" for him. A couple of bad choices and bad draws and...2-0 after 14 minutes of play.

SECOND SEMI-FINAL: Dwarf/Empire vs Empire

Long, neverending game with lots of developements on the table, insane control interactions and endless battlefield phases.

In the end, both players had 3-4 cards in the deck.

Dwarf/Empire players lost for "deck end". Just 1-0.

THE FINAL: Orcs vs Empire

Great Match. Orcs started well. Classic opening with Grimor's Camp + Excavation. The player used to play Squig Herders (or bigger Stuff) in the early game in the QUEST zone, then play "Wolf Rider Assault" to bring them out and close the game. He won almost any game this way, with the proper "Waaagh!". ;)

The Empire played perfectly second game. The guy was strong and lucky, Orcs did well but not enough to stop the early empire JOV and the quick restart.

1-1.

The final game lasted 10 minutes. The Orc player started pretty fast (more than usual) and burned down a zone. Empire came back from the void and played a JOV and some stuff.

Quick turns, but difficult ones. Stuff moved from zone to zone, destroyed Units, discarded cards, developements, heavy support-destruction.

In the end, the usual Wolf Rider Assault + Waaagh! quit the game.

ORCS WIN!

A couple of ideas...

- Orcs are fast, but things are changing...Know your enemy, someone said...And someone is going to know them pretty well...

- Caos is a good faction, anyway. Plays well, lots of nice interaction, sideboarding choices and play variety.

- Empire is going to be a great, powerful race, more than ever, but it needs lot of "awareness". The "bad part" is making it work well. There are different options (Support/Developement based decks, JOV decks, aggro-control archetype with the newest stuff).

- Dwarf ARE NOT weak. Are just "difficult". The mono-Dwarf control of a friend of mine works pretty well. If he allows me to do it, I'll post the list, if you want.

- Sideboarding, even if not that useful right now, is pretty interesting. We allow a 12 cards sideboard and in a couple of situations it changed the game.

GREAT GAME, guys. It's gonna be even better than this, pretty sure about it.

Cheers.

DB

Great little report :D Just out of interest which battle packs were released at the time of the tournament, so we know what card pool there was for the decks to be built from. You mention Wolf Rider Assault so I'm guessing you at least had Path of the Zealot?

LordMalinari said:

Great little report :D Just out of interest which battle packs were released at the time of the tournament, so we know what card pool there was for the decks to be built from. You mention Wolf Rider Assault so I'm guessing you at least had Path of the Zealot?

Hi!

We allowed the first 2 Battle Packs.

I can post a bunch of lists.

HERE is the Aggro-Control Caos (tri-race) deck:

UNITS
Bloodthirster x2
Vile Sorceress x3
Bloodsworn x3
Lobber Crew x3
Savage Marauders x3
Greyseer Thanquol x3
Malus Darkblade x2
Fledgling Chaos Spawn x3

TACTICS
Troll Vomit x2
Flames of Tzeentch x3
Pillage x3
We Need Your Blood x3
Seduced by Darkness x3
Blood for the Blood God x3

SUPPORTI
Orcs/Dark Elf Alliance x2
Caos/Dark Elf Alliance x2
Orcs/Caos Alliance x2
Contested Fortress x2
Warpstone Excavation x3

SIDEBOARD

Call the Blood x3
Chosen of Tzeentch x3
Smash-go-boom! x3
Hate x3

TOT 50 (+12 Cards)


Short comment: it lost 2 games, but did pretty well (1-2). During playtesting it was not bad. is a bit "slow" and needs some tuning, but it's a nice experiment.

The deck is built and played by the guy name "BigV" in the Italian Official Forums.

More to come... :)

Thanks for the great post. I would be very interested in whatever decks played. As for your ideas...

DB_Cooper said:

- Orcs are fast, but things are changing...Know your enemy, someone said...And someone is going to know them pretty well...

- Caos is a good faction, anyway. Plays well, lots of nice interaction, sideboarding choices and play variety.

I completely agree that things are changing for the orcs. In fact, I'm pretty sure if the Chaos had the third expansion available then it would have been a completely different match. Brutal offering is the greatest card to play against orcs and will stop the rush decks cold.

Thanks again for the report

Nice little report, it was nice to read ^^ - now I'm just itching for some Finnish Grandé Competition :D or atleast local league play (but with my luck I'll be having lectures just at the time when the league would be...). It would've been interesting to see how skavens would've fared with the deathmaster. But orcs for the win ;), I was bit suprised from the wolf riders assault but actually it sounds really good combo with squig hoppers.

Sideboard!?!?!? are there rules for sideboarding for this game?

No. they just wanted to use it. :)

I don't think there are any official tournament rules yet, right? Did I miss that?

f7eleven said:

Sideboard!?!?!? are there rules for sideboarding for this game?

no.

obviously the TO must be a magic fan.

it "corrupts" the deckbuilding challenge.

it could be interesting but it's not the format for official tournament. Or it has not been announced yet !

so we can't really get something useful from these results.

Mister Mask said:

f7eleven said:

Sideboard!?!?!? are there rules for sideboarding for this game?

no.

obviously the TO must be a magic fan.

it "corrupts" the deckbuilding challenge.

it could be interesting but it's not the format for official tournament. Or it has not been announced yet !

so we can't really get something useful from these results.

Are there any "official" tournament rules at all yet? According to your logic, we can't really get anything useful from any tournament report then.

As the game grows, the cardpool could warrant sideboard options without messing up the complexity of deckbuilding. If there are different strategies for all factions and all combinations of factions, a small sideboard would not be enough to answer them all. On top of that, there is a whole new set of complications on how to sideboard.

My opinion is that there should be no sideboarding as of right now though as there isn't a sufficient cardpool for it. A best 2 of 3 between 2 decks that stay unchanged for the match reduces the likelyhood of a win based on luck. The act of sideboarding for games 2 and 3 changes that by altering the decks and possibly the luck involved if one of the sideboarded cards is a big enough bomb.

At first, thanks for the answers. I'm happy to be useful...I think reports are a good thing to understand the environment.

Anyway, a bunch of clarification:

- I'm the italian coordinator, but not the boss. As I said, it's not a job, it's just a "role" that Giochi Uniti gave me to create a "player base" and keep it going. :)

The SIDEBOARDING thing came after months of polls and discussions in our forums.

We decided to include Sideboard in our league EVEN if I'M NOT a MAGIC FAN at all. I've been a Magic Player and I'm not anymore...And I'm happy with it. :)

Sideboarding is, in my point of view, a challenge in the challenge.

Our sideboard is built with 12 CARDS. I like it in a 3 games match (as all our matches are).

I know that RIGHT NOW sideboarding can be useless...But sometimes it was not and I can't change the rules "on the fly" during the league (one day we'll have a bigger cardpool and at that time, sideboarding will be a good way to create interesting 3 games matches.

- I'll post all the decks if the "builders" will allow me to do so, but I guess it won't be a problem and I'll do it in a couple of days.

- If you're interested in our League mechanics, feel free to ask. ;)

Zee ya zoon! :)

Many thanks for posting the report, always good to see how things are going!

Thanks for posting these results and your thoughts. Cool stuff. Graci!

I can't imagine a pure-Empire deck being at all competitive, really. They're the race our group considers the weakest, though my friend has craftest an almost nasty High-Elf/Empire deck recently.

Wytefang said:

Thanks for posting these results and your thoughts. Cool stuff. Graci!

I can't imagine a pure-Empire deck being at all competitive, really. They're the race our group considers the weakest, though my friend has craftest an almost nasty High-Elf/Empire deck recently.

Thanks :)

Consider that the Empire guys and the winner where from the same meta...They playtested a lot and they told me: "this final was the first lost game by that deck."

I do love Empire and I think that with the proper tuning is going to become a big pain for lots of decks. It's more a matter of takin' some time...That's the reason why at the beginning everyone thought that Caos sucked...Now, at least here, Caos is powerful...But not because of the new cards, but just because people learned how to play it.

Anywyay, from a practical point of view, it's slow and less solid than Orcs or Caos itself.

:)

Hey dude,

could u post that dwarf control deck? i cant actually imagine such a deck.

Kako K. said:

Hey dude,

could u post that dwarf control deck? i cant actually imagine such a deck.

Here it is.

Keep in mind that it's not a T1 killer deck...But it's going to do great, as already did in different situations.

Anyway, this evening we'll have a league tournament in my meta and I'll let you know everything, if you wish...The guy is going to play it again (he's dwarf inside).

UNITS 31

3x Mountain Brigade

3x Hammerer of Karak-Azul

3x Gurni's Elite

2x Dwarf cannon crew

2x Ironbreakers of Ankhor

2x *Dugnar The Bold

3x Dwarf Miner

3x Dwarf Ranger

3x Troll Slayers

2x Zhufbar Engineers

2x Zealot Hunter

3x Veteran Sellswords

SUPPORTS 14

3x Master Rune of Dismay

3x Grudge Thrower

3x Keystone Forge

2x Contested Fortress

3x Contested Village

TACTICS 16

3x Stand your Ground

2x Burying the Grudge

3x Wake the Mountain

2x Demolition

3x Innovation

3x Master Rune of Valaya

TOT 61

Here's the winner's decklist (ORCS)

UNITS 28

3x Spider Riders
3x Squig Herders
3x Followers of Mork
2x Black Orc Squad
3x Boar Boyz
2x Urguck
2x Night Goblins
3x Lobber Crew
2x Big 'Uns
3x Bloodthirster
2x Grimgor Ironhide

SUPPORTS 6
3x Warpstone Excavation
3x Grimgor's Camp

TACTICS 16
3x Wolf Rider Assault
3x Pillage
3x Rip Dere 'Eads Off!
3x We'z Bigga!
2x WAAAGH!
2x Troll Vomit


SIDEBOARD
3x Smash 'Em All!
2x Smash-Go-Boom!
3x Choppa
1x WAAAGH!
1x Troll Vomit
1x Night Goblins
1x Big 'Uns

ANOTHER STEP of the national league took place yesterday evening, in a mighty friday night :)

I think it's not good opening another thread, so I'll go on here...

It was held in my meta. We were 11.

Great tournament. I played with a Caos Control deck and did pretty bad. In the end, I played a couple of games with my Empire deck and win almost any game I played. That's the rage of the Empire against me, for having let him out. :)

Here's the 2nd deck...New player, nice build. Lost in the final against DWARVES (with splashed Empire, but with Empire Capital).

UNITS

3x Spider Riders

3x Crooked teef goblins
3x Squig herders
2x Followers of mork
2x Black orc Squad
3x Boar Boyz
2x Night Goblins
3x Lobber Crew

2x Bloodthirster

2x Geyseer Thanquol

SUPPORTS
3x Choppa
3x Grimdor's Camp
3x Cloud of Flies

3x Warpstone Excavation

2x Rock Lobber

TACTICS

3x Rip dere 'eads off!
3x Pillage
2x Troll Vomit
2x Seduced by darkness
2x we need your blood

Side:

1x Night Goblin
2x Smash-go-boom!
1x Troll Vomit
1x Seduced by darkness
2x Burn it down
1x We need your blood
2x Smah 'em all!
2x Banna of da red sunz

Wonderful Aggro-Control Deck, with odd choices, but actually good ones (no waaghs, I.E.).

THE WINNER'S DECK - Dwarves wth Empire (with Empire Capital)

Real heavy control deck which relies a lot on Units movements and JoV.

Here's the list:

UNITS

3x Reiksguard Knights

3x Mountain Brigade

3x Dwarf Miner

3x Dwarf Cannon Crew

3x Troll Slayers

2x Ironbreakers of Ankhor

3x Dwarf Masons

3x Nordland Halberdiers

SUPPORTS

3x Contested Village

3x Keystone Forge

3x Dwarf/Empire Alliance

2x Temple of Shallya

TACTICS

3x Judgement of Verena

3x Master Rune of Valaya

3x Grudge Thrower Assault

3x Will of The Electors

3x Demolition

3x Demoralize

Sideboard

3x Gurni's Elite

3x Zealot Hunter

3x Karl Franz's Decree

3x Stand Your Ground

And then...SOME PICTURES!!! :)

TURN 1

Turn 1...

DWARVES VS ORCS!!!

Dwarves vs Orcs...

DEVELOPEMENTS!!!

A bunch of developements... :)

AND THERE'S ME, WITH A CTHULHU HAT!!!!! gran_risa.gif

CTHULHU HAT!

Here are some pictures of the previous tournament (the one for which I opened the thread):

Winner ORC's Capital Board with 3D damage tokens...

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SEMIFINAL...

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MORE TO COME, if you want them...We're even creating a video... :)

Cheers

DB_Cooper

Keep up the good work! gran_risa.gif