Can sombody tell me why Leia and Veers (+ Snow/ Fleet Troopers) aren't releasing together? As Veers and Leia pretty much have the same role in their faction won't that unbalance the game until Leia releases?
Veers and Leia not releasing together?
seems FFG is looking to release items most months (I don't believe monthly), so my guess Han Solo will release a month the Imperial mirror release
More options does not have to mean an imbalance in overal faction strengths.
But...
I’m hoping they figure out some way to ship both new commanders in one month and both new troops the next month.
No reason to release two new toys for one faction in a month and none for the other.
On 31/03/2018 at 9:02 PM, Bdolfos said:Can sombody tell me why Leia and Veers (+ Snow/ Fleet Troopers) aren't releasing together? As Veers and Leia pretty much have the same role in their faction won't that unbalance the game until Leia releases?
then you're suggesting power creep. By right an expansion should provide more options, not a new auto-include. Rebels should just be limited in their playstyle until leia arrives, but should not be overwhelmed. If they are, then something is wrong with the game if one new commander/squad can do that.
Edited by MuelmuelI think after Leia and Hoth troppers, the release is Han Solo and the Rebel commandos. So then Rebels will have more options. You could say then its unbalanced in the Rebel favor. It will balance.
6 hours ago, Muelmuel said:then you're suggesting power creep. By right an expansion should provide more options, not a new auto-include. Rebels should just be limited in their playstyle until leia arrives, but should not be overwhelmed. If they are, then something is wrong with the game if one new commander/squad can do that.
More options is never a bad thing, especially when the Empire really needs a budget Commander...not a huge imbalance.
But seriously? They’re releasing separately?? That’s...goofy. They were announced at the same time, weren’t they?
5 minutes ago, Ailowynn said:More options is never a bad thing, especially when the Empire really needs a budget Commander...not a huge imbalance.
But seriously? They’re releasing separately?? That’s...goofy. They were announced at the same time, weren’t they?
How else do you reconcile a wave of releases with a desire for monthly releases, without having a wave a month?
Planned and designed as a wave - released in sub waves.
Edited by DrasnightaI'll be honest, it might be a smart move from FFG. If each faction takes a turn with releases, I'll be more likely to collect both armies instead of my wallet having to choose when they all come at once.
On 3/31/2018 at 6:02 AM, Bdolfos said:Can sombody tell me why Leia and Veers (+ Snow/ Fleet Troopers) aren't releasing together? As Veers and Leia pretty much have the same role in their faction won't that unbalance the game until Leia releases?
I think they want released every month this year. This won’t matter in six months once their are enough releases for variety already available.
big thing about leia/veers is more the price difference/playstyle change than being autoinclude.
Not everybody likes having 1/4 of their list be 1 dude. Even if Luke/Vader were deemed the better bang for yoru buck, people would probably use leia/veers more because thats like 100-120pts extra for a whole other unit.
7 hours ago, Muelmuel said:then you're suggesting power creep. By right an expansion should provide more options, not a new auto-include. Rebels should just be limited in their playstyle until leia arrives, but should not be overwhelmed. If they are, then something is wrong with the game if one new commander/squad can do that.
Not if having two commanders is really good (for example). Then it's just that the rebels don't have access to all mechanics in the game.
And they could at least release Leia and Veers together and then a month later Fleet Troopers with Snow Troopers.
32 minutes ago, Ailowynn said:But seriously? They’re releasing separately?? That’s...goofy. They were announced at the same time, weren’t they?
Leia was announced at the end of January, Veers in December.
Edited by BdolfosActually though, where is all this info coming from? All I can see is that they’re both on the boat. Where are we hearing that they’re releasing separately? And that FFG wants to do a release a month? Not saying y’all are wrong, quite the opposite, just wondering how we know all this.
20 minutes ago, Ailowynn said:Actually though, where is all this info coming from? All I can see is that they’re both on the boat. Where are we hearing that they’re releasing separately? And that FFG wants to do a release a month? Not saying y’all are wrong, quite the opposite, just wondering how we know all this.
They said so - directly - at GAMA, that the intent was monthly releases.
52 minutes ago, Ailowynn said:More options is never a bad thing, especially when the Empire really needs a budget Commander...not a huge imbalance.
But seriously? They’re releasing separately?? That’s...goofy. They were announced at the same time, weren’t they?
Veers announcement article was December 20th, 2017
https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2017/12/20/command-from-the-front/
Leia announcement article was January 24th, 2018
https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2018/1/24/inspire-rebellion/
Remember folks, this isn't X-Wing, releases are not in "waves".
To expand on @NeonWolf from the bottom of those articles:
You can look for the General Veers Commander Expansion (SWL10) at your local retailer in the first quarter of 2018!
Look for the Leia Organa Commander Expansion and the Fleet Troopers Unit Expansion to release together in the second quarter of 2018!
So, the intent has always been they release at different times. The Wave point is good. The commanders aren't "paired", each faction gets a commander and a new Corps unit. Specifically I think saying they'd be a month apart was from a leaked schedule from a spanish distributor (who gave use the original release date) but it's been a while since I actually saw that information, somebody would have to look it up.
Veers is supposed to be sometime this month
Leia May
Moisture Vaporators in June
Han in June
and frankly they could split up the associated troopers and release things even more extended like
Veers end of April
Snowtroopers beginning of May
Leia June
Fleet Troopers end of June-July
Moisture Vaporators in July-August or whatever.
a release a month....
they are going to be hard pressed to keep that up. Even if its not a release for both sides a month thats quite ambitious to attempt.
Ideally, this means Veers in a week or two, Leia a month after that, and Han a month after that, then whoever the 3rd Imp commander is a month after that. FFG has a history of announcing something then having it "disappear" for months so i am skeptical of this.
7 minutes ago, Vineheart01 said:a release a month....
they are going to be hard pressed to keep that up. Even if its not a release for both sides a month thats quite ambitious to attempt.
Ideally, this means Veers in a week or two, Leia a month after that, and Han a month after that, then whoever the 3rd Imp commander is a month after that. FFG has a history of announcing something then having it "disappear" for months so i am skeptical of this.
IF they can maintain a release-a-month schedule, and that is a big IF, I think it is more likely to go something like:
April - Veers+Snowtroopers
May - Leia+Fleet Troopers
June - Battlefield Objectives+Barricades
July - Han+Commandos
Unless they throw the two playmats in as a monthly release, but traditionally playmats have been outside of the normal release schedule
they are BOTH releasing in the second quarter...why do we think they will be in different months?
I think you have:
Q2
April: Veers /Snowtroopers
May: Leia/ Fleet Troopers
June: Objective pack (mouisture evaporators) and Game Mats
Q3
July: Han/ Commandos
August: Imperial commander / Commado Equvialent
Sept: Objective pack (hoth maybe?) new game mats
Q4
October: Imperial Release first this quarter
November: Rebel release
December: Objective pack and Map
if you are playing one faction only your cost is 40-50.00 Msrp for one month per quarter plus Objective Packs if you want them. Keeps it affordable for the avg player, even if you split your purchases up commander one month, troops the next Objective pack the following then as a single faction player your not spending more than 25.00 a month.
if your playing both factions then your under 40-50.00 per month (assuming one of everything and it multiples)
Design-wise, Monthly releases isn't too bad, there's a LOT of material to cover. Like, even just on film you could do Echo Base Rebels and Fleet Troopers or Imperial Gunners for Corps 3, then branch out into lots of other stuff for support, heavy etc.
It'll also get easier if they release some more factions~...
6 minutes ago, Hidatom said:they are BOTH releasing in the second quarter...why do we think they will be in different months?
Because until the new article came out today Veers was listed as coming out Q1.
6 minutes ago, Hidatom said:they are BOTH releasing in the second quarter...why do we think they will be in different months?
- They were announced a month apart
- Veers+Snowtroopers currently listed as "On the Boat"
- Leia+Fleet Troopers currently listed as "At the Printer"
- Repeated sources of FFG claiming they are planning a monthly release schedule
Ohh just for fun... Q2 2019 20th Anniversary Phantom Menace Core Box - gungans vs battle droids
you cannot have a balanced OP program if you have unbalanced releases.
FFG would be wise to have Leia and Veers be the same week.