Phantoms still have a hard time in the current meta. I think the main problem is that they get focussed because the wingmans aren't valuable targets. Maybe this list can solve this problem (a bit):

"Whisper" (32)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Fire-Control System (2)
Agent Kallus (2)
Advanced Cloaking Device (4)

"Omega Leader" (21)
A Score to Settle (0)
Comm Relay (3)

"Quickdraw" (29)
Adaptability (0)
Fire-Control System (2)
Advanced Optics (2)
Lightweight Frame (2)
Special Ops Training (0)

Total: 100

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QD and Omega Ldr. are valuable targets too. You don't want those in the late game.

One Question: VI+Primed Thrusters or Advanced Optics+Adapt. on QD?

Cheers and fly casual!

Trick Shot and Advanced Optics

OR

Trick Shot and Primed Thrusters then change Agent Kallus to Rebel Captive.

I’m the filthy casual still flying Whisper/Echo. I do like Kallus, but I’ve found not getting attacked is better than changing a focus result to an evade. Rebel Captive is a great deterrent to Expertise carriers and action dependent ships.

I like the list, but you're probably still going to struggle with Whisper, especially against turrets.

Rebel Captive is a good idea on Whisper, but Kallus has great value in the current meta.

Crackshot is a great upgrade for Quickdraw too, but adapt/VI have their uses, of course.

If you really wanted to incorporate one of these additions, I would say change comm relay on Omega to advanced optics.

5 hours ago, Ryuneke said:

Phantoms still have a hard time in the current meta. I think the main problem is that they get focussed because the wingmans aren't valuable targets. Maybe this list can solve this problem (a bit):

"Whisper" (32)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Fire-Control System (2)
Agent Kallus (2)
Advanced Cloaking Device (4)

"Omega Leader" (21)
A Score to Settle (0)
Comm Relay (3)

"Quickdraw" (29)
Adaptability (0)
Fire-Control System (2)
Advanced Optics (2)
Lightweight Frame (2)
Special Ops Training (0)

Total: 100

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QD and Omega Ldr. are valuable targets too. You don't want those in the late game.

One Question: VI+Primed Thrusters or Advanced Optics+Adapt. on QD?

Cheers and fly casual!

The main problem with Phantoms is that its too easy to get to ps9 or above. Rebel Fenn can do damage to whisper while negating her entire offense (which is what she is in the list to do). PS11 Poe, Thweek, Nym w/ TLT - ugh, Torani. I used a 27pt Thweek vs a Quickdraw and Whisper list and he solo'd Whisper with ease. Those 1 banks are evil.

Still a good fun list, especially vs anything ps8 and below. But there are a lot of ps9+ right now, its risky.

Thanks guys.

Do you think the Rage/Electronic Baffle Combo is any good on QD?

3 hours ago, Ryuneke said:

Thanks guys.

Do you think the Rage/Electronic Baffle Combo is any good on QD?

Overall, no. Its ok for a 'budget' QD.

In your particular list, it does have value though, since its possible enemies will target Whisper first (and this is the only time baffle QD is worthwhile---when he's being ignored). However, smart players will realize the secret to neutralizing baffle/rage QD is to focus fire him first, thus ensuring that you only get to use his ability (and the combo) once.

I would trade optics for Pattern Analyzer and use ASTS for QD's EPT. Mini-expertise is great with her multi-shots. Whisper seems good as is, though her weaknesses are well-known. OL doesn't really need the relay here, so I agree - Optics would give her much more punch

7 hours ago, Greebwahn said:

I would trade optics for Pattern Analyzer and use ASTS for QD's EPT. Mini-expertise is great with her multi-shots. Whisper seems good as is, though her weaknesses are well-known. OL doesn't really need the relay here, so I agree - Optics would give her much more punch

ASTS is already on Omega Ldr. And you’re right with optics on her.

updated list thanks to your advices:

"Whisper" (32)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Fire-Control System (2)
Rebel Captive (3)
Advanced Cloaking Device (4)

"Omega Leader" (21)
A Score to Settle (0)
Advanced Optics (2)

"Quickdraw" (29)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Fire-Control System (2)
Primed Thrusters (1)
Lightweight Frame (2)
Special Ops Training (0)

Total: 100

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