On ‎5‎/‎8‎/‎2018 at 3:53 PM, Deuzerre said:

Why would it have to be a mirror?
The empire and the rebels are different entities. The empire is "lawful evil", the order and bad guys, they have the firepower and authority, they aren't supposed to go subtle.
The rebels are "chaotic good", doing what has to be done with what they have to get rid of the bad guys. They have to be more subtle.

No need to have a mirror with the empire getting "infiltrators".

Nobody is saying it has to be anything, but there isn't much opinion to be explored in the mirrors that are present, and have been present in the game so far.

And they mirror eachother for the reason of balance within game design. All game design comes to a middle ground between what feels right, and what is mechanically balanced and fair to play.

Which is why I posed the question about a mirror for Han. Sure, they could start doing stuff completely different and releasing units that start utilising mechanics completely different from eachother - but they haven't so far and I wouldn't expect it.

On ‎5‎/‎8‎/‎2018 at 6:16 PM, Jman444 said:

Even if we dont get him right away, I think Kallus would work great in this middle-ground space, he's both a good leader tactically and good in combat. I think once more "best of both worlds" commanders come out, those will be highly played.

Think Kallus is a shout. An Aggressive Mid Range Commander. Han strikes me as much more of a Jack of all trades. Leia is definitely a squishy support, as is Veers. Luke and Vader both a rally point and hard hitter. Han *could* serve multiple purposes within a list. Wouldn't be surprised by a Thrawn, Rae Sloane (lesser known but relevant to both Rebels and the GCW). Both strike me as Characters that could be strong mid range, objective based characters with decent Hit Points, decent damage and command cards that shake things up not unlike Han.

2 hours ago, jgibbs2 said:

If they do put him in as a commander, I can see them making command cards that only benefit him. He would be a "commander" who very much acts alone. To make a great game you may have to sacrifice on some thematic elements. That being said, I'd still like to see him as a special unit or a commander in a scum faction.

But then he wouldn't actually be a commander. As I said, he's much better suited for the special forces rank.

No need to sacrifice thematic elements here - boba doesn't need to be a commander. I understand that lots of people want him in the game, but why are some obsessed with him being a commander when its clearly a poor choice?

.....Grand General Tagge.....

You know, it's possible that his counterpart is a character either in or intended to be in the Solo movie and the reason there isn't the articles is due to that...

24 minutes ago, Shadows of the Future said:

You know, it's possible that his counterpart is a character either in or intended to be in the Solo movie and the reason there isn't the articles is due to that...

Interesting theory.?

I was going to show you that we aren't late for an article but looking at it we should have got one around the 20th April if there is pattern in their reveal announcements.

Well if it is a commander from the movie and does come out 4 months from the end of April I might have seen Solo by then on DVD.

5 minutes ago, Shadows of the Future said:

You know, it's possible that his counterpart is a character either in or intended to be in the Solo movie and the reason there isn't the articles is due to that...

I was thinking the same thing today! There's been a Leia full preview article, X-wing movement article (didnt seem necessary) and Fleet troopers will probably be up this week as well. But not a peep about the Imperial stuff and we are definitely due for info.

It got me thinking...Leia and Fleet troopers are released on the 24th... which is also the premier day of Solo....

My best guess as to why we havent seen anything right now, is that there will be a commander and special forces in Solo that will be coming out and they're contractually not allowed to announce that until the movie is released. And maybe an announcement article could spoil/ give out too much info.

Having them from the movie would fit though, we've been seeing a fair amount of Imperial troops and vehicles from the teasers so there's definitely going to be some Imperial content that could make its way into the game.

54 minutes ago, NukeMaster said:

Interesting theory.?

I was going to show you that we aren't late for an article but looking at it we should have got one around the 20th April if there is pattern in their reveal announcements.

Well if it is a commander from the movie and does come out 4 months from the end of April I might have seen Solo by then on DVD.

I'm waiting for the general reaction to the movie before deciding if I want to see it or not.

Rogue One was a good movie, and of the current Disney ones, the only one I've watched more than once...but it still hits a few points that annoy me, mainly because I have a massive attachment to the Legends universe. And it's kind of funny with how many people and ships died to accomplish what a single, young Kyle Katarn could pull off with just a handler...

Sure, TFA was decent, and it kind of beats the Christmas Special and the Clone Wars movie (The movie story is actually far superior if you can watch the version as it was intended for a story arc to start the series rather than forced together into a movie), though I got more fun out of the Ewok movies than it...and I almost walked out of the theater with TLJ.

Wasn't expecting Rogue One to end with a higher named character kill count than the first part of Battle for Endor...

I'm not that optimistic about Solo, but I may be wrong there...

And as for late with a reveal, it's more of the Imperial Wave followed by two Rebel Waves that had me scratching my head about it. Alternating seemed to be what they were trying to do until it seemed to shift to Veers, Leia, and then Han...so having another Imperial in there would make sense.

1 hour ago, Jman444 said:

I was thinking the same thing today! There's been a Leia full preview article, X-wing movement article (didnt seem necessary) and Fleet troopers will probably be up this week as well. But not a peep about the Imperial stuff and we are definitely due for info.

It got me thinking...Leia and Fleet troopers are released on the 24th... which is also the premier day of Solo....

My best guess as to why we havent seen anything right now, is that there will be a commander and special forces in Solo that will be coming out and they're contractually not allowed to announce that until the movie is released. And maybe an announcement article could spoil/ give out too much info.

Having them from the movie would fit though, we've been seeing a fair amount of Imperial troops and vehicles from the teasers so there's definitely going to be some Imperial content that could make its way into the game.

Yeah, it's something that hit me as I was trying to think of who it could be. Either a new character or one who might pop up in the movie.

It would make sense from a publicity standpoint to have the character released near the movie's release to draw on the hype there and possibly have some cross promotion there. X-Wing did it with TFA after all...

@Shadows of the Future Definitely. Cross promotion would be smart, and with X-Wing, the ships didnt give anything away so it didnt matter that they and some pilot names were announced ahead of the movie.

Even though it worked for X-Wing with TFA and TLJ, I think if the next Imperial stuff to be announced is from Solo, then having the characters' names and some backstory revealed would probably be more than what Disney/LFL wants right now.

It has definitely been weird not getting any information on these guys... I mean we all have a good idea of what troops/characters would make up a special forces unit for the Empire from the OT/ Rogue One/ Rebels- i.e. Scout troopers, Death troopers, Royal guards, etc. All of which wouldn't be surprising enough to not have an announcement article by now...

The third commander has been more head scratching than SF to me. For Rebels- Luke, Leia, and Han make sense as the first commanders and what I expect to be the only Rebel commanders for some time. They have the "big 3", allowing for 6 different commanding options. Now it's time to flesh out the rest of the unit types a bit more before additional commanders are released. Gotta have more stuff to command than commanders themselves!

So if we're going with 3 commanders per faction for awhile, then it makes it even harder to say "yes, the next 'biggest' Imperial commander will be ______". Plenty of options but none that stick out. Boba Fett is probably the highest on the list, but with him being scum only in X-wing now, I dont see him ending up as a commander. He'll definitely be in the game at some point Im sure. Therefore, my logical conclusion was with the timing of Solo and lack of info articles, that it will actually be from the upcoming movie.

Which could be cool... Since this movie has a "heist / 'Italian Job'" feel to it, we could see a very competent Imperial leader (maybe like an Agent Kallus type) hot on Han and Lando's tails throughout the story who could be the next Imperial commander here.

But who knows! It's always fun to speculate and predict. After seeing how good Leia is and with Fleet troopers, Han, and Rebel Commandos coming to her aid-- the Empire is now in need of some new hope... and by that I mean some new articles FFG! hahaha

I think a cool commander ability could be like "tactical genius" or something.

It let's your commander interact with objectives you need base contact with out to range 1 (supply crates, evaporators, key positions), and claim ranged objectives out to range 2 (comms, etc.).

Thrawn or something could be cool with that.

5 hours ago, Shadows of the Future said:

I'm waiting for the general reaction to the movie before deciding if I want to see it or not.

Why not go see it and just judge it yourself? Thats my plan. Really hoping for a more Rogue1 like film again...although realise it wont be that sort of film that slots into the original trilogy so well as such.

5 hours ago, VAYASAN said:

Why not go see it and just judge it yourself? Thats my plan. Really hoping for a more Rogue1 like film again...although realise it wont be that sort of film that slots into the original trilogy so well as such.

There's already been a lot of signs of pushing towards trying to blame a failure on the fans which makes me really nervous about things with it. If it's like TLJ, I'm skipping it entirely...

5 hours ago, VAYASAN said:

Why not go see it and just judge it yourself? Thats my plan. Really hoping for a more Rogue1 like film again...although realise it wont be that sort of film that slots into the original trilogy so well as such.

While I really want to rant, it boils down to:

*I have limited time and money for movies.

*I've lost faith in Lucasfilm

*If it is bad, I don't want to be part of making a bad movie successful.

6 hours ago, NukeMaster said:

While I really want to rant, it boils down to:

*I have limited time and money for movies.

*I've lost faith in Lucasfilm

*If it is bad, I don't want to be part of making a bad movie successful.

Fair enough.

I will go see it as I loved Rogue 1.

I genuinely think TLJ was a very strange film...lost its way as a Star Wars film imo (I enjoyed TFA).

Hoping Solo is more of Rogue 1 in style rather than 'the force is female' nonsense that the main trilogy has become.

1 hour ago, VAYASAN said:

Fair enough.

I will go see it as I loved Rogue 1.

I genuinely think TLJ was a very strange film...lost its way as a Star Wars film imo (I enjoyed TFA).

Hoping Solo is more of Rogue 1 in style rather than 'the force is female' nonsense that the main trilogy has become.

I had zero issues with TLJ getting a bit feminist. I did have issues with TLJ just being dumb, especially considering how obviously it thought it was being smart. I mean, TFA was also sometimes pretty dumb, simultaneously rehashing and trying to one-up ANH all with JJ's trademark lack of coherence and pacing, but it never gave the impression it intended itself to be taken as anything other than at face value.

That said, yeah, very much hoping for a more Rogue One feel to Solo.

9 hours ago, Yodhrin said:

I had zero issues with TLJ getting a bit feminist. I did have issues with TLJ just being dumb, especially considering how obviously it thought it was being smart. I mean, TFA was also sometimes pretty dumb, simultaneously rehashing and trying to one-up ANH all with JJ's trademark lack of coherence and pacing, but it never gave the impression it intended itself to be taken as anything other than at face value.

That said, yeah, very much hoping for a more Rogue One feel to Solo.

Yep tbh I lumped the feminist thing in with the dumb thing in my head. It was dumb some of it and the feminism side didnt help....just absolutely no need for it. Everyone love leia from the ANH...there was no need for 'strong woman' been touted around for it...she was a good character...thats all it is and all it should be.

Then the jokes, lost was the brilliant dialogue between imperials of the originals..and we now have a joke fest of an evil force. Do they think kids need that to enjoy it? Strange the originals didnt have to be to hook a planet.

2 hours ago, VAYASAN said:

Yep tbh I lumped the feminist thing in with the dumb thing in my head. It was dumb some of it and the feminism side didnt help....just absolutely no need for it. Everyone love leia from the ANH...there was no need for 'strong woman' been touted around for it...she was a good character...thats all it is and all it should be.

13 hours ago, VAYASAN said:

Hoping Solo is more of Rogue 1 in style rather than 'the force is female' nonsense that the main trilogy has become.

I don't want to turn this into a movie discussion thread, so I'll keep this bit brief.

I have a daughter. I love Star Wars, and I also want her to love Star Wars. I'm glad she has a strong protagonist in the new series to identify with. Star Wars isn't and shouldn't just be for us dudes.

2 hours ago, VAYASAN said:

Then the jokes, lost was the brilliant dialogue between imperials of the originals..and we now have a joke fest of an evil force. Do they think kids need that to enjoy it? Strange the originals didnt have to be to hook a planet.

I agree. The humor was a little off in TLJ. We'll have to see if they get back to the original style in Episode VIII.

As for the third imperial commander, it seems pretty logical at this point that they are waiting for something or someone from Solo.

1 hour ago, Orkimedes said:

I have a daughter. I love Star Wars, and I also want her to love Star Wars. I'm glad she has a strong protagonist in the new series to identify with. Star Wars isn't and shouldn't just be for us dudes.

[Offtopic] THe original Leia (IV, V, VI) was a very strong character without having pointers all the time saying "see how awesome a WOMAN is?" [/offtopic]

1 hour ago, Orkimedes said:

I have a daughter. I love Star Wars, and I also want her to love Star Wars. I'm glad she has a strong protagonist in the new series to identify with. Star Wars isn't and shouldn't just be for us dudes.

48 minutes ago, Deuzerre said:

[Offtopic] THe original Leia (IV, V, VI) was a very strong character without having pointers all the time saying "see how awesome a WOMAN is?" [/offtopic]

Leia was a strong character. But 4-6 was Luke's story. 7-9 is Rey's story. I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

Scout troopers and Boba Fett!!!

Boba and Scout troopers... the Emperor is pleased

On 5/9/2018 at 5:15 PM, jgibbs2 said:

If they do put him in as a commander, I can see them making command cards that only benefit him. He would be a "commander" who very much acts alone. To make a great game you may have to sacrifice on some thematic elements. That being said, I'd still like to see him as a special unit or a commander in a scum faction.

You called it, dude! https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2018/5/11/rogue-operative/

2 minutes ago, Contrapulator said:

You called it, dude! https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2018/5/11/rogue-operative/

Let the cries of the unhappy begin! I'm pretty stoked for this... and now I slightly want to go Imps... dangit boba!

On 3/31/2018 at 12:30 PM, Derrault said:

He’d be priced according to his value, presumably; if the AT-ST or AT-RT can be one mini units, I see no reason Fett can’t do the same.

The reason he doesn’t make sense as a commander is that he doesn’t hold any rank with the Empire. All the other commanders revealed so far have held a rank with their factions.

Called it ?