I got the star wars legion stuff today and testing the miniatures arm sockets I found some are not even at all let alone going in correctly.

1 minute ago, boogle22 said:

I got the star wars legion stuff today and testing the miniatures arm sockets I found some are not even at all let alone going in correctly.

That sometimes happens with pre-fit miniatures. If it cannot be jiggled in at all, I usually cut the interior join off and glue it in without it.

Do you mean the exterior joint? That was what I was thinking.

10 minutes ago, boogle22 said:

Do you mean the exterior joint? That was what I was thinking.

No, I believe he means the peg that goes into the torso. Interior as it goes inside another piece.

Gotcha, thanks.

Caimheul1313 is right. I haven't seen the model in the flesh yet, but I imagine they're like others of this type, so they'll be designed to have extruding plastic on the arm, leg etc which becomes an interior join when plugged in. You may need to pin it after modification (drill a hole between the torso and arm and glue some wire into both) or use green stuff. That said, some glues, like zap-a-gap are very good for this purpose.

A simple way to modify these models and create diversity in poses will likely be to cut these joins off so that you can attach different arms and heads to different models. With some greenstuff, I doubt anyone would notice any odd joins.

There may be some inconsistencies and warping on the casting, mold lines stopping it from fitting in correctly. Always test fit before slapping glue on the pieces. It's likely you may have to trim some pieces down a bit to get a proper fit. I wouldn't go through the hassle of pinning basic stuff like troopers, maybe the AT-ST or something though. These aren't flawless like GW sculpts, some of them aren't even as clean as the bolt action models which tend to only have flash you have to scrape off. These are cheap chinese hard plastic, we just have to make it work the best we can.

17 minutes ago, srMontresor said:

A simple way to modify these models and create diversity in poses will likely be to cut these joins off so that you can attach different arms and heads to different models. With some greenstuff, I doubt anyone would notice any odd joins.

This partially depends on if the torsos have been molded to fit around the arm in a particular position. If they have, some greenstuff work will be needed to bulk out the troso to make it look natural.

Edit:as you mentioned and I somehow missed. >_<

As a note, almost all of the heads are not separate parts, but instead were cast as a single piece with the torso and legs. The Learn to play rules have the assembly instructions for the minis in the Core set, showing the very few pieces the models come in.

1 minute ago, Caimheul1313 said:

This partially depends on if the torsos have been molded to fit around the arm in a particular position. If they have, some greenstuff work will be needed to bulk out the troso to make it look natural.

Edit:as you mentioned and I somehow missed. >_<

As a note, almost all of the heads are not separate parts, but instead were cast as a single piece with the torso and legs. The Learn to play rules have the assembly instructions for the minis in the Core set, showing the very few pieces the models come in.

That is annoying about the heads. I had thought of swapping the Duros head onto an AT-RT pilot's torso. It could still be done, just with more work care.

12 minutes ago, srMontresor said:

That is annoying about the heads. I had thought of swapping the Duros head onto an AT-RT pilot's torso. It could still be done, just with more work care.

I had similar hopes when the game was first announced before I learned FFG was using a peg system and single pose miniatures. Unfortunately, only the Rebel Ion trooper and one of the Speeder bikes seems to have a seperate head, which is the receiver for the neck peg from the body, and therefore hollow at the neck. For the most part I am currently planning on a lot of near-humans in my Rebel Troopers, unless I get adventurous/replacement models are cheap on eBay.

I have not seen a Legion mini yet. But if the peg is warped, maybe you can put it hot water and bend it back. Not sure you can with these, I heard these are harder plastic then other plastic minis.

5 hours ago, Caimheul1313 said:

I had similar hopes when the game was first announced before I learned FFG was using a peg system and single pose miniatures. Unfortunately, only the Rebel Ion trooper and one of the Speeder bikes seems to have a seperate head, which is the receiver for the neck peg from the body, and therefore hollow at the neck. For the most part I am currently planning on a lot of near-humans in my Rebel Troopers, unless I get adventurous/replacement models are cheap on eBay.

Somebody on Shapeways will come up with alternate alien heads, if they haven't already.

Not sure if anybody has mentioned this yet, but have you checked you have the right arms for the right torso?

A tips I learned from Runewars TMG was to use plastic glue. It melts the plastic a little, making it soft so any inconcistencies with the parts wont matter after a few seconds

25 minutes ago, Soulless said:

A tips I learned from Runewars TMG was to use plastic glue. It melts the plastic a little, making it soft so any inconcistencies with the parts wont matter after a few seconds

I heard plastic glue doesn't work with Legion's plastic

Just now, Andreu said:

I heard plastic glue doesn't work with Legion's plastic

If thats true then I stand corrected, but it did work with Runewars minis!

2 hours ago, Jiraiya1969 said:

Somebody on Shapeways will come up with alternate alien heads, if they haven't already.

Thanks, but since the heads aren't separate that means a whole bunch of careful decapitations on minis that don't appear to have a lot of neck. That still doesn't fix the issue of being able to buy replacement torsos if the knife slips or the resulting swap looks terrible.

2 hours ago, Jiraiya1969 said:

Somebody on Shapeways will come up with alternate alien heads, if they haven't already.

But not yet, isn`'t it?

1 hour ago, Andreu said:

I heard plastic glue doesn't work with Legion's plastic

I'm using loctite with Runewars and no problem at all.

3 hours ago, Soulless said:

If thats true then I stand corrected, but it did work with Runewars minis!

Reports say Legion is using a different plastic from Runewars and it is non-reactive with plastic glue. Superglue with an easy applicator has been recommended for Legion, in order to lessen the chance of applying too much glue.

1 hour ago, Hijodecain said:

I'm using loctite with Runewars and no problem at all.

Super glue tends to not have issues with gluing materials together, especially skin . Normally, plastic glue is prefered for plastic models, as it temporarily chemically melts the plastic it touches, creating a stronger bond than superglue.

My experience is each mini has a set of arms that match exactly to the torso. You have to look at the peg vs the hole to see which ones fit which model.

19 minutes ago, smccaughan said:

My experience is each mini has a set of arms that match exactly to the torso. You have to look at the peg vs the hole to see which ones fit which model.

It is possible for the pegs to have castlines or other imperfections that keep it from fitting on the matching torso though.

4 minutes ago, Caimheul1313 said:

It is possible for the pegs to have castlines or other imperfections that keep it from fitting on the matching torso though.

true I will concede that point, Just so far with my first core set i have not run into any issues as long as I matched the arms to the torso.

2 minutes ago, smccaughan said:

true I will concede that point, Just so far with my first core set i have not run into any issues as long as I matched the arms to the torso.

Hopefully that will be the general case, but with mass production there is some variation on quality control.

We had this problem with our demo set as well. Most of the fitment can be solved by trimming the arm "pegs" down slightly to allow more room in the receiver. Some flash also had to be scraped off. In a few extreme cases, we just cut the pegs completely off and filled the receiver with super glue.

11 hours ago, Soulless said:

A tips I learned from Runewars TMG was to use plastic glue. It melts the plastic a little, making it soft so any inconcistencies with the parts wont matter after a few seconds

Legion is a slightly stiffer plastic. I would also recommend against this for other reasons and go with gap filling super glue.