As we surpass "Legion Week"...

By Crabbok, in Star Wars: Armada

2 minutes ago, Captain_Nemo said:

Thats nice to hear, but where‘s it from?

Multiple corroborative sources to the point that at least the fact is HAS been tested is able to be accepted as fact.

It doesn't mean we SEE an SSD, now or ever. I can only imagine that ship would be next to impossible to balance, but the fact that it's been tested none-the-less is true.

10 minutes ago, BrobaFett said:

Multiple corroborative sources to the point that at least the fact is HAS been tested is able to be accepted as fact.

It doesn't mean we SEE an SSD, now or ever. I can only imagine that ship would be next to impossible to balance, but the fact that it's been tested none-the-less is true.

That’s interesting - thanks,

I am far more excited at the prospect of ships like the Venator, Dreadnought (or "Wolf", as I believe it's now called) and the AFmk.I than I am for the Executor. I just can't see myself being able to justify laying down the significant amount of cash that it will inevitably cost.

42 minutes ago, Captain_Nemo said:

Thats nice to hear, but where‘s it from?

just an idea - the SSDmight be the best argument for releasing the cards separate to the miniature - the non ship specific ones at least.

I am not that optimistic though

Second hand from a playtester as far back as a year ago.

Reading this thread you get the feeling the SSD is inevitable. I do want it to happen but I am not convinced of it yet.

22 minutes ago, Diabloelmo said:

I am far more excited at the prospect of ships like the Venator, Dreadnought (or "Wolf", as I believe it's now called) and the AFmk.I than I am for the Executor. I just can't see myself being able to justify laying down the significant amount of cash that it will inevitably cost.

May I ask where you heard Wolf from?

7 minutes ago, GrandAdmiralCrunch said:

May I ask where you heard Wolf from?

*Edit* - it is named in the top right of the concept art

Rebels_Dreadnaught.jpg

Edited by Diabloelmo

Big question - and it's hypothetical I suppose... Since producing extremely large models could run the risk of people not buying them....

How would you feel if FFG launched some type of crowdfunding effort for VERY large expansions?

Let's say these expansions only included cards that were usable for this expansion itself - so no buying a $200 expansion for that ONE card that will win you all the tournaments.

Let's also say that this covered not only super star destroyers for Armada, but also Space Stations, Larger capital ships for X-Wing like the Nebulon, and also things like an AT-AT for Legion. Such a platform could also be theoretically used for VERY ambitious board games that could otherwise cost upwards of 300 dollars.

And finally - lets assume that if this type of effort were successful, it would allow them enough production to additionally make these larger items available to the general public.

4 minutes ago, Crabbok said:

Let's say these expansions only included cards that were usable for this expansion itself - so no buying a $200 expansion for that ONE card that will win you all the tournaments.

See, if the cards contained within an expansion such as the SSD were either only usable with it or were reprints of cards found elsewhere, I'd be far more sanguine about it. However, this does leave us with the issue of Piett - I would be unimpressed to be unable to use him outside the Executor, though that is the only logical place to release him outside ofanither campaign pack.

Just now, Diabloelmo said:

See, if the cards contained within an expansion such as the SSD were either only usable with it or were reprints of cards found elsewhere, I'd be far more sanguine about it. However, this does leave us with the issue of Piett - I would be unimpressed to be unable to use him outside the Executor, though that is the only logical place to release him outside ofanither campaign pack.

Basically something like that. There are some options for how to do the cards.

SOME can be usable only on the SSD, either by restricting them to the Executor itself, or by restricting them to EPIC ships. (In theory perhaps the Eclipse might be able to share some upgrades?)

SOME can also be available elsewhere. Maybe it'll come with Piett, but lets also say that OP kits are also releasing Piett and they'll basically flood the market with him.

Alternate Art is also a thing here - perhaps it comes with alternate art versions of cards. Maybe some that we could use in extras. Spinal Armaments for example?

Or maybe it's just got some exclusive cards that are simply early. Like maybe you'll have them a few months ahead of time, but they won't be tournament legal until they show up in the following wave. This way people can play casually with them for now, and then once they're more easily available we can get the competitive scene going with them.

I dunno just brainstorming.

39 minutes ago, Diabloelmo said:

*Edit* - it is named in the top right of the concept art

Rebels_Dreadnaught.jpg

Pretty sure that’s the codename for all Rebels assets. Unreleased Rebels LEGO sets are listed as Wolf 1, Wolf 2 etc.

Edited by The Jabbawookie
1 minute ago, The Jabbawookie said:

Pretty sure that’s the codename for all Rebels assets.

It is? I haven't paid an awful lot of attention to the art assets, so that could well be the case

23 minutes ago, Crabbok said:

Big question - and it's hypothetical I suppose... Since producing extremely large models could run the risk of people not buying them....

How would you feel if FFG launched some type of crowdfunding effort for VERY large expansions?

Let's say these expansions only included cards that were usable for this expansion itself - so no buying a $200 expansion for that ONE card that will win you all the tournaments.

Let's also say that this covered not only super star destroyers for Armada, but also Space Stations, Larger capital ships for X-Wing like the Nebulon, and also things like an AT-AT for Legion. Such a platform could also be theoretically used for VERY ambitious board games that could otherwise cost upwards of 300 dollars.

And finally - lets assume that if this type of effort were successful, it would allow them enough production to additionally make these larger items available to the general public.

They talk a little about that very idea here:

Although they talk about is only briefly, their CEO seems hesitant to use crowdfunding at all, instead preferring the pre-order system, which is something I expect we will see a lot more of.

16 minutes ago, The Jabbawookie said:

Pretty sure that’s the codename for all Rebels assets. Unreleased Rebels LEGO sets are listed as Wolf 1, Wolf 2 etc.

I checked and Wolf is listed on both the Chimera and Interdictor renders in the same spot. I think you are correct in it being a project name.

Edited by GrandAdmiralCrunch
41 minutes ago, Do I need a Username said:

Although they talk about is only briefly, their CEO seems hesitant to use crowdfunding at all, instead preferring the pre-order system, which is something I expect we will see a lot more of.

Well that's pretty much what kickstarter has become. And that's kinda what I mean. Could be worded as such:

FFG Players - Since The Executor is so large and gorgeous, with it's twenty seven red dice in each arc..... we've decided to start taking a special type of Reserve Pre-order. If we get at least 1,000 pre-orders for the Executor, it will go into production. If we don't get at least that many, then sadly, we will not begin production of the Executor. Pre-ordering now will also grant you alternate art versions of the following cards:

Spinal Armament

Admiral Piett

Crabbok's Lightsaber Nunchucks

and more!

7 minutes ago, Crabbok said:

Well that's pretty much what kickstarter has become. And that's kinda what I mean. Could be worded as such:

FFG Players - Since The Executor is so large and gorgeous, with it's twenty seven red dice in each arc..... we've decided to start taking a special type of Reserve Pre-order. If we get at least 1,000 pre-orders for the Executor, it will go into production. If we don't get at least that many, then sadly, we will not begin production of the Executor. Pre-ordering now will also grant you alternate art versions of the following cards:

Spinal Armament

Admiral Piett

Crabbok's Lightsaber Nunchucks

and more!

Personally I'm not a fan of this. I want you Impo's to get your SSD. But I'm not paying for it nor helping you pay for it, no matter what alt arts I might get.

4 hours ago, draco193 said:

I think I might be one of the few folks that's just really not interested in an SSD. I just think it's not going to look right in scale and if there's epic play I'm worried what size table would be needed for it.

I'm interested in it as a figure piece, which is weird because i really am not that big of a SW fan, but i don't care about it being in game. I feel the same way about the raider in x-wing, I can't stand using that thing in x-wing but it's a really beautiful model.

13 minutes ago, geek19 said:

Personally I'm not a fan of this. I want you Impo's to get your SSD. But I'm not paying for it nor helping you pay for it, no matter what alt arts I might get.

I also see some of the same problems that you do (at least I think) in that it encourages players to make everyone pre-order it and maybe even split the community around people who did or did not. Overall, not a fan of pre-order or kickstarter in relation to already existing products.

Sure the imps can have the executor as long as they announce Arvel Crynyd at the same time.

9 minutes ago, Palanthas said:

Sure the imps can have the executor as long as they announce Arvel Crynyd at the same time.

Technically we have Green Squadron, which Crynyd was in, which can topdeck the Projector Misaligned....

Crazy Imps, trying to use Intensify Firepower! on flak attacks...

33 minutes ago, geek19 said:

Technically we have Green Squadron, which Crynyd was in, which can topdeck the Projector Misaligned....

Crazy Imps, trying to use Intensify Firepower! on flak attacks...

True but Wedge was part of Rogue Squad and Mitchell who was part of black squadron as well and we have both.

54 minutes ago, geek19 said:

Crazy Imps, trying to use Intensify Firepower! on flak attacks...

Piett wasn't smart enough to jump away from the window on his own. Dying is an irresponsible use of Imperial resources. He also hesitated to get out of the way. This conflicts with the Imperial Naval Code.

Piett should die.

You rebel scum just don't understand us.

(I have fully unleashed the Imperial within me...)

Code, for reference:

I will honor the Empire in my thoughts and actions

I will obey my superiors

I will never shirk from my duties

I will maintain impeccable standards of conduct and appearance

I will use Imperial resources responsibly

I will complete every mission without hesitation, ambiguity, or mercy

I will recognize that the Empire is greater than myself and be willing to die in its service

I will call out those who do not live up to the standards of the Naval Code

32 minutes ago, Npmartian said:

Dying is an irresponsible use of Imperial resources.

32 minutes ago, Npmartian said:

I will recognize that the Empire is greater than myself and be willing to die in its service

I suspect Piett took all available measures to save his life once he saw Arvel. All 0. :P (It would've been cooler if he'd stood tall to the end though, IMHO.)

11 hours ago, draco193 said:

I'm going to guess we hear more next week. Legion has kick off events and a bunch of other stuff going on with it. If not next week I think they'll wait until May 4th.

May 4 isn't unlikely.

April 20 is apparently the 'big reveal' date for the Solo movie merchandising tie-ins, and it isn't incredibly likely FFG will have anything in Armada for that (although not impossible - the new 'Imperial Arrestor Cruiser' could be in the pipe unbeknownst to us...but beknownst to FFG). DEFINITELY they will for X-Wing, possibly for Legion, and they'll be pumping Legion hard at that point still anyway.

May 4, though? Maybe...

I can't stress enough my desire for a Bellator-Class Star Dreadnought for epic play over an Executor Super Star Destroyer. Especially because its actual size can be used in the game relative to the ISD and would just be so gorgeous.

That would leave room to bring a Mediator-Class Mon Cal Ship of relative size to the Rebels as well.