When attacking, you may cancel a focus result. If you do, flip this card.

At the start of the combat phase, you may assign an evade token to your ship. If you do, flip this card.

Would it still be staggeringly bad?

The answer to any question that begins with “Would R3 be less bad if...” is yes.

9 minutes ago, Herowannabe said:

The answer to any question that begins with “Would R3 be less bad if...” is yes.

That's a fair point.

19 minutes ago, Lightningclaw said:

When attacking, you may cancel a focus result. If you do, flip this card.

At the start of the combat phase, you may assign an evade token to your ship. If you do, flip this card.

Would it still be staggeringly bad?

Always a question of points. At 2 still not very good, but at least better.

@Herowannabe "The answer to any question that begins with “Would R3 be less bad if...” is yes. "

No, because it can be worse. Like Saboteur, Expose etc.

25 minutes ago, Managarmr said:

@Herowannabe "The answer to any question that begins with “Would R3 be less bad if...” is yes. "

No, because it can be worse. Like Saboteur, Expose etc.

Technically true, but how many people do you know who are trying to find ways to make R3 worse?

Just now, Herowannabe said:

Technically true, but how many people do you know who are trying to find ways to make R3 worse?

I could do this as a challenge for Community Mod... just for the laughs...

23 minutes ago, MajorJuggler said:

I could do this as a challenge for Community Mod... just for the laughs...

When attacking an enemy ship with a hull value of 6 or greater, you may cancel one hit result to assign one focus token to your ship? 2 points.

26 minutes ago, Herowannabe said:

Technically true, but how many people do you know who are trying to find ways to make R3 worse?

Well, let's see ... "You may cancel a focus result to assign an evade token. Then take two stress."

There, I fixed it!

R3 is good in HotAC at least.

maybe some sort of version where the flip side is a Comms relay effect that flips up again when you don't have an evade token?

9 hours ago, Mace Windu said:

maybe some sort of version where the flip side is a Comms relay effect that flips up again when you don't have an evade token?

That's actually not horrible, I would actually pay points for this

Side A:

When you are assigned an evade token, flip this card.

When attacking, you may cancel one [eye] to assign am evade token to yourself.

Side B:

When you have no evade token, flip this card.

You cannot have more than one evade token. Do not remove evade tokens from this ship during the end phase.

11 hours ago, Tbetts94 said:

R3 is good in HotAC at least.

I’m wondering if I will laugh harder at this statement, or your explanation of this statement.

13 hours ago, Lightningclaw said:

When attacking, you may cancel a focus result. If you do, flip this card.

At the start of the combat phase, you may assign an evade token to your ship. If you do, flip this card.

Would it still be staggeringly bad?

Let the past die. Kill it if you have to.

9 minutes ago, jmswood said:

I’m wondering if I will laugh harder at this statement, or your explanation of this statement.

When three other players have already called dibs on R2-D2, M9-G8, R7-T1 and R3-A2. R3 Astromech then becomes a "great" choice.

Other than that one specific scenario though, it's garbage, and will always be garbage since it's not popular enough to receive any kind of direct buff.

22 minutes ago, Astech said:

When three other players have already called dibs on R2-D2, M9-G8, R7-T1 and R3-A2. R3 Astromech then becomes a "great" choice.

Other than that one specific scenario though, it's garbage, and will always be garbage since it's not popular enough to receive any kind of direct buff.

Nothing except ships receives direct buffs in this game.

Poor Daredevil.

(and, like 80% of the upgrades from wave 3 and before)

6 minutes ago, thespaceinvader said:

Nothing except ships receives direct buffs in this game.

Poor Daredevil.

(and, like 80% of the upgrades from wave 3 and before)

Guidance chips and long range scanners were direct buffs to ordnance, but that's the only major one I can think of.

I'd pay 8 points to bump Tycho up to ATT3 primary, because then he'd actually be usable!

1 minute ago, Astech said:

Guidance chips and long range scanners were direct buffs to ordnance, but that's the only major one I can think of.

I'd pay 8 points to bump Tycho up to ATT3 primary, because then he'd actually be usable!

By direct buffs I mean actually hard errata to buff things. You're right about chimps, though - but buffing astromechs with another slot isn't easy, especially when IA already exists.

41 minutes ago, Astech said:

When three other players have already called dibs on R2-D2, M9-G8, R7-T1 and R3-A2.

3 other players called dibs on 4 astromechs? One of those players is greedy.

At the bottom of this post, you’ll find a list of astromechs I think are worse than R3 Astro.

In HotAC, if for some reason I could not play with a good astromech, I would spend the 5 points to change ships before I wasted 2 points on R3 Astro.

have you met 9 dice norra? not possible without R3

1 hour ago, Wiredin said:

have you met 9 dice norra? not possible without R3

Completely incorrect.

9 dice Norra can be done with Debris Gambit, Intensity/Vectored Thrusters, and Cool Hand as well. R3 is probably the worst way of doing it that doesn't rely on discardables (Cool Hand is more reliable, but one-off)

Norra Wexley (29)
Swarm Leader (3)
Finn (5)

Jan Ors (25)
Debris Gambit (2)

Shara Bey (28)
Debris Gambit (2)

Total: 96

View in Yet Another Squad Builder

That's the core of it. You can add EI to Shara so that she can get her TL and Gambit every round, or EI and Jyn to Jan to give NOrra better mods. Or give Shara M9G8 and Weapons Engineer to get Norra rerolls, or... etc.

16 hours ago, Lightningclaw said:

When attacking, you may cancel a focus result. If you do, flip this card.

At the start of the combat phase, you may assign an evade token to your ship. If you do, flip this card.

Would it still be staggeringly bad?

Herm... I would perhaps reword it slightly to make it better. Though I would be concerned about potentially making the E wing too good - haha, nvm. I forgot, it's an E wing.

Side A: When attacking, you may cancel a focus result. If you do flip this card.
Side B: When defending, you may flip this card to add an evade result.

There is a double advantage to the way I wrote it. First, it can be used at the same round that you flip it, and second, it could theoretically stack with an evade token, which only the E wing has, so really not a big deal. I suppose if you really wanted to prevent this interaction, you could make it "when defending, you may flip this card to gain an evade token," which would prevent the stacking with an evade token while still allowing it to be used on a moments noticed.

But both of these dual cards comes with the additional benefit that you can choose which side it starts on, which means it comes as a free evade result prior to the first round of combat, and you're canceling a focus to recharge the effect instead of triggering the effect. I wonder if it would be too powerful this way on the old school Biggs... He gets an extra health automatically, and likely gets to charge it each turn (or at least a 57% chance of rolling at least one focus on attack). He would actually truly enjoy R3 if it was worded this way.

20 minutes ago, thespaceinvader said:

Completely incorrect.

9 dice Norra can be done with Debris Gambit, Intensity/Vectored Thrusters, and Cool Hand as well. R3 is probably the worst way of doing it that doesn't rely on discardables (Cool Hand is more reliable, but one-off)

Norra Wexley (29)
Swarm Leader (3)
Finn (5)

Jan Ors (25)
Debris Gambit (2)

Shara Bey (28)
Debris Gambit (2)

Total: 96

View in Yet Another Squad Builder

That's the core of it. You can add EI to Shara so that she can get her TL and Gambit every round, or EI and Jyn to Jan to give NOrra better mods. Or give Shara M9G8 and Weapons Engineer to get Norra rerolls, or... etc.

I stand corrected... the question is... do you sacrifice a die to put Rey on Norra to actually take it to a fifthly casual tournament and wreck some faces?

47 minutes ago, Wiredin said:

I stand corrected... the question is... do you sacrifice a die to put Rey on Norra to actually take it to a fifthly casual tournament and wreck some faces?

I mean, you don't run it at all, it's a terrible build with one hilarious trick.

13 minutes ago, thespaceinvader said:

I mean, you don't run it at all, it's a terrible build with one hilarious trick.

that's what I'm all about tho! lol

I run Jess Pava/Green squad/Green Squad/Jan Ors and do okay with it, so why not?

*shrug* it's up to you. Just be aware you're putting all your eggs in a very fragile, very situational, very easy to kick over basket.