Current list of ships used by the First Order and Resistance navies

By jarmus mrawn, in Star Wars: Armada

I pulled the current list of ships that the First Order Navy and Resistance Navy used from Wookieepedia and although I'm not saying whether or not it's a good time to bring the sequel trilogy into Armada, there seems to be enough ships in the First Order and Resistance navies to make a wave or two at this point.

First Order:

Corvettes

Cruisers

Gunships

Frigates

Platforms

Shuttles

Star Destroyers

Star Dreadnoughts

Starfighters of the First Order's TIE pilot corps

Edited by jarmus mrawn

I still rather not

That list is like listing up ALL Legends ships and claiming there would be so much to choose from. The problem is not the absence of obscure, almost never seen or mentioned ships. Its the absence of common-sight, gameplay-wise interesting and beautiful looking ships. And especially the last category is really not easy to fulfill when talking about sequel trilogy stuff...

Well by now in the story, the resistance navy consist of the Falcon and maybe one transport.

#thelastjedi

7 minutes ago, jocke01 said:

Well by now in the story, the resistance navy consist of the Falcon and maybe one transport.

#thelastjedi

True, I only included the other ships in what was the Resistance's naval forces since that is what FFG has to work with if they introduce sequel trilogy ships in Armada.

Plus if I'm not mistaken there are a few X Wings that are still around and whatever military force Leia's Outer Rim allies have if the First Order hasn't already destroyed them of course.

Prefer prequel.

Say what you want about the acting or the plot, im not gonna start that argument.

But damm those ships were awesome.

1 minute ago, DrakonLord said:

Prefer prequel.

Say what you want about the acting or the plot, im not gonna start that argument.

But damm those ships were awesome.

The Venator and Providence classes are some of my favorite capital ship designs in Star Wars and I loved seeing them in the Clone Wars and Revenge of the Sith.

It's just that the Resurgent Class has really grown on me and I just really want to see it be part of the game someday.

25 minutes ago, jarmus mrawn said:

The Venator and Providence classes are some of my favorite capital ship designs in Star Wars and I loved seeing them in the Clone Wars and Revenge of the Sith.

It's just that the Resurgent Class has really grown on me and I just really want to see it be part of the game someday.

I honestly dont mind the design of the resurgent, its actually kinda cool ^_^

Its just, its statistics are so stupid.

(now i dont have time to use multiple sources or anything so ima just use wookipedia)

ISD2:

Length: 1600m

Armament:

- turbolaser batteries (60)

- Heavy Ion cannon emplacements (60)

- Tractor beam projectors (10)

Total emplacements: 130

Resurgence class

Length: 2 915.81m

(A little less than double the size of a imp star, but presumably better tech so id be happy with around 300/400 weapon emplacements)

Armament:

- 1500+ turbolasers, ions and self defense cannons.

- self defense concussion missiles

- tractor beams

(It doesnt even have the courtesy to list actual numbers just it has these things and together there are over 1.5 thousand of them, and yes thats over 1.5k not exactly 1.5k)

It just annoys me beyond belief that they did that. Theyre just pissing on us with doing the courtesy of calling it rain.

https://goo.gl/images/Jbo5G1

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2 hours ago, DrakonLord said:

I honestly dont mind the design of the resurgent, its actually kinda cool ^_^

Its just, its statistics are so stupid.

(now i dont have time to use multiple sources or anything so ima just use wookipedia)

ISD2:

Length: 1600m

Armament:

- turbolaser batteries (60)

- Heavy Ion cannon emplacements (60)

- Tractor beam projectors (10)

Total emplacements: 130

Resurgence class

Length: 2 915.81m

(A little less than double the size of a imp star, but presumably better tech so id be happy with around 300/400 weapon emplacements)

Armament:

- 1500+ turbolasers, ions and self defense cannons.

- self defense concussion missiles

- tractor beams

(It doesnt even have the courtesy to list actual numbers just it has these things and together there are over 1.5 thousand of them, and yes thats over 1.5k not exactly 1.5k)

It just annoys me beyond belief that they did that. Theyre just pissing on us with doing the courtesy of calling it rain.

https://goo.gl/images/Jbo5G1

Oh I agree the Resurgent is over powered to a ridiculous level when compared to the ISD and when you consider that there turbolasers are power by Kyber crystals, it's a wonder why the First Order even needed the Mandator IV or the Supremacy.

I would have definitely preferred it's weaponry to be around double that of the Imperial Class but unless they redo that I have to agree it's ridiculously over powered.

Other than that it's actually a pretty good ship in that fact that it took the best elements from the Venator as a carrier, the Imperial Class as a Destroyer, and removing the exposed bridge tower that plagued previous Star Destroyer classes.

That being said it is probably one of the best warships to be introduced into the new Star Wars cannon and is slowly becoming my favorite ship next to the SSD. (I just wished they would fix the number of turbolasers so it's not as OP as it currently is)

Edit: actually the Supremacy was a mobile headquarters and shipyard above all else so it actually had pretty good uses outside of being a weapons platform. The Mandator IV on the other hand seems more like a waste with the exposed bridge tower, low anti starfighter weaponry, and the fact that the fleet of Resurgents could have done a orbital bombardment and gotten the exact same results and the Resurgent of course was more than superior in terms of weaponry.

Edited by jarmus mrawn

One thing you have to remember is an ISD I has 120 weapon batteries rather then individual weapons. batteries in star wars are typically 2 to 4 guns. so an ISD I is 240 to 480 guns while a Resurgent, almost twice the size and more advanced has 1,500+ guns. Given the amount of time between designs entering service and the size difference IMO a Resurgent's weapons loadout isn't unreasonable

That is true and it's probably what they were going for when they released the specs on the Resurgent, I just would have preferred if they were more specific on what exactly they ment by 1,500+ turbolasers, ion cannons, etc. Still my favorite ship along with the SSD though lol.

Edited by jarmus mrawn

Twice the length means 4 times the surface area and 8 times the volume.

240x4=960

480x4=1920

In theory, the total number of weapons is not entirely unreasonable.

The required industrial base for the First Order's military, on the other hand, may not be reasonable.

The MC85 does give the the Min Calamari the opportunity to show what they can do with a pure purpose-designed warship. The better structure should give a much higher Hull value.

But the starfortress bombers are useless seem more designed to attack stations and ground targets as opposed to enemy capital ships

6 hours ago, elbmc1969 said:

Twice the length means 4 times the surface area and 8 times the volume.

240x4=960

480x4=1920

In theory, the total number of weapons is not entirely unreasonable.

The required industrial base for the First Order's military, on the other hand, may not be reasonable.

Ah ok, yeah when you put it that way it actually is believable that it could have that much weaponry

2 hours ago, chr335 said:

But the starfortress bombers are useless seem more designed to attack stations and ground targets as opposed to enemy capital ships

True, but I think in the Resistance's situation they were using whatever they could get there hands on, even if the ships themselves weren't good at engaging capital ships. Although they were still pretty well armed in terms of payload, all they need are adequate fighter support or they're vulnerable as shown on the attack against the Mandator IV during The Last Jedi

Edited by jarmus mrawn
1 hour ago, jarmus mrawn said:

True, but I think in the Resistance's situation they were using whatever they could get there hands on, even if the ships themselves weren't good at engaging capital ships. Although they were still pretty well armed in terms of payload, all they need are adequate fighter support or they're vulnerable as shown on the attack against the Mandator IV during The Last Jedi

They are vulnerable with adequate fighter support b wings or y wings would have been better

I think even y wings would have a difficult time trying to survive the First Order's starfighter defense. B Wings would have probably made there bombing run and a few would have survived but I don't think y wings would have faired much better than the starfortress bombers did.

It also didn't help that First Order pilots are considered some of the best pilots in the galaxy and the Resistance is working with whoever signs up and sometimes times they get really good pilots like Poe and Snap or more times than not probably get average pilots with some experience and even some with little or none and may fly no better than a ewok on a speeder bike.

Edited by jarmus mrawn
On 19/03/2018 at 11:17 AM, RogueCorona said:

One thing you have to remember is an ISD I has 120 weapon batteries rather then individual weapons. batteries in star wars are typically 2 to 4 guns. so an ISD I is 240 to 480 guns while a Resurgent, almost twice the size and more advanced has 1,500+ guns. Given the amount of time between designs entering service and the size difference IMO a Resurgent's weapons loadout isn't unreasonable

The executor had over 5000 turbolasers and is 19km long.

The RSD had over 1500 and is 3km long.

The page lists both armaments the same way.

Either the executor is underpowered or the RSD is overpowered.

The RSDs turbos are newer tech as well compared to the executors sooooooo

Edit: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Executor

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Resurgent-class_Star_Destroyer

Edited by DrakonLord

Honestly it doesn't surprise me that Executor's design wasn't as armed as it could be. First for a long time it was believed to be 8,000 meters rather then 19,000. And it still massively outgunned anything smaller then a Death Star so the designers might have just called it good enough or deliberately left room for upgrades.

Since the new canon information with the executors length and armament was not new information to the designers of the RSD, for me personally they screwed up badly and made the RSD too powerful.

But thats my opinion :)

Could be mistaken but I believed that the everyday RSD had standard turbolasers with some exceptions like the Finalizer being upgraded with kyber crystal powered turbolasers because the First Order had too much of a shortage of kyber crystals to upgrade every RSD.

That's what I remember reading as well sgtdeadman.

37 minutes ago, DrakonLord said:

Since the new canon information with the executors length and armament was not new information to the designers of the RSD, for me personally they screwed up badly and made the RSD too powerful.

But thats my opinion :)

I would argue the opposite as the Executor is 19km long and only has 5000 turbolasers, ion cannons, PD batteries. If you laid all the weapons out on the SSD in a single line (not caring about width or height of the SSD atm) it would only be a cannon per 4 metres. Then you have to spread that across the width and height and amongst the city scape. Not really many weapons at all across such a monster of a ship.

Just now, sgtdeadman said:

I would argue the opposite as the Executor is 19km long and only has 5000 turbolasers, ion cannons, PD batteries. If you laid all the weapons out on the SSD in a single line (not caring about width or height of the SSD atm) it would only be a cannon per 4 metres. Then you have to spread that across the width and height and amongst the city scape. Not really many weapons at all across such a monster of a ship.

The executor came before the RSD.

Yes the executors weapondry is seemingly underpowered.

However it is what it is so i compare the RSD to the SSD. Not the SSD to the RSD.