11 minutes ago, Drasnighta said:

I mean, its unfortunate to do - but you really have to define "Ship" there...

Do you mean Expansion?

Because if you mean ship expansion, then the Imperials are only 1 Behind (from the Core Set days)

Do you mean actual plastic models?

Then they are 2 behind, because the Chimaera and ISD share a model...

It makes a difference, basically...


To me, the Imperials are one "ship" behind, but one Squadron "Ahead".

... THey also still hold the Monopoly on one type of Upgrade. Which is unfair and ****.

Imps can complain about parity when I can put a Targeting Scrambler in my Rebel Fleet, and not a moment beforehand.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Imo I don't view it as much as an advantage/disadvantage as I do areas for the fleets to grow. It's a bit weird to me that Imperials got fleet commands but at the same time Imperials had gotten their special a wave sooner than rebels received theirs.

Right now I view rebels as needing to expand in the medium ship area and imperials, strangely, needing to expand in the large ship area. The ISD is such a good ship that I'd actually prefer to see both factions get Medium based brawler like ships but I just don't see that happening for the imperials because the vic's existence and the two ISD's nor the rebels because I anticipate a control oriented ship similar to the interdictor for them.

Who knows, maybe the next xpac will be that stupid flotilla killing flotilla or, prep the thread!, SWM20.

Well, I feel accomplished by posting this. Now the real questions is can we get a version of Armada that is Starcraft related.

Zeo wants a Behemonth Class Battlecruiser Model on his shelf.

On 3/16/2018 at 4:23 PM, Drasnighta said:

2?

or do you mean 2 variants of 1 ship?

Yes.

17 minutes ago, thecactusman17 said:

Yes.

No worries, just wanted to confirm that


There's no denying that the Imperials are 1 Ship (2 variants) down. But they are up in the Squadrons, so that's *kinda* balanced...

Maybe they'll solve all the issues at once by dropping a couple of ships for the Imps and a Repaint/variant (Experimental Retrofit) pack with U-Wings for the Rebels at the same time....

2 hours ago, Zeoinx said:

Well, I feel accomplished by posting this. Now the real questions is can we get a version of Armada that is Starcraft related.

Zeo wants a Behemonth Class Battlecruiser Model on his shelf.

So I'm not the only person who has been dreaming of this.... It's time to talk to Mel!

Dear Mel,

Cheap Affordable, Starcraft Brood War (Then SC2) miniatures please, Starting with the Behemoth Class Battlecruiser. Then the Protoss Carrier, and Zerg can...have...uhh....4 Mutalisks and.....6 scurge

Use SC Remastered for reference....

23 minutes ago, Zeoinx said:

Dear Mel,

Cheap Affordable, Starcraft Brood War (Then SC2) miniatures please, Starting with the Behemoth Class Battlecruiser. Then the Protoss Carrier, and Zerg can...have...uhh....4 Mutalisks and.....6 scourge and the Leviathan.

Use SC Remastered for reference....

ftfy

If it really has to be BW, the Behemoth was around then...

2 hours ago, Drasnighta said:

No worries, just wanted to confirm that


There's no denying that the Imperials are 1 Ship (2 variants) down. But they are up in the Squadrons, so that's *kinda* balanced...

Maybe they'll solve all the issues at once by dropping a couple of ships for the Imps and a Repaint/variant (Experimental Retrofit) pack with U-Wings for the Rebels at the same time....

Technically we're both. That's the joke.

As much as I love the new Chimera expansion, it means we're effectively two ship models behind the Rebels. I'd like to see this fixed. I think there's enough content between the trilogy, Rebels, Cone Wars and the First Order to give us enough models to reach parity. The Fact that parity hasn't been aggressively pursued is a frustrating issue for me add a player who plays exclusively Imperial yet collects both factions. My Rebels look incredibly diverse while the Imperials look like I spammed one unit every wave.

That unit was Gozantis, BTW.

9 minutes ago, thecactusman17 said:

Cone Wars

...I’ll see myself out now.

26 minutes ago, thecactusman17 said:

Technically we're both. That's the joke.

As much as I love the new Chimera expansion, it means we're effectively two ship models behind the Rebels. I'd like to see this fixed. I think there's enough content between the trilogy, Rebels, Cone Wars and the First Order to give us enough models to reach parity. The Fact that parity hasn't been aggressively pursued is a frustrating issue for me add a player who plays exclusively Imperial yet collects both factions. My Rebels look incredibly diverse while the Imperials look like I spammed one unit every wave.

That unit was Gozantis, BTW.

Is it somewhat Surprising that a ragtag group of rebels are indeed visually ragtag whereas the monolithic uniform military bloc is both monolithic and uniform?

I just don't think parity is as important as, y'know, game balance in design... Sure, you could just throw something in there to achieve parity, but if it doesn't actually perform some measure of bonus to the game, what's the point?

And I mean, I'm the opposite but still in the same boat... Do you know how many Interdictors I had to buy to get Flight Commanders for my Rebel Ships?

I will never understand why people need another Large Imp ship. We have the ISD, end of story. I would rather see more refits, than an unnecessery addition just to even the numbers. ISDs were jack of all trades. They were the backbone of every Imperial fleet.

It's more than enough (Thematically)

It's the Executor! I feel it in me ol' bones

News and hype for upcoming ships definitely adds energy to the game.

But i think we are still well and truly in the wave 7 stage at this point. I dont think iv e even scratched the surface on wave 7 yet.

But there has usually been a couple of months between a wave release and the announcement of the next. Combined with legion i think expecting a new wave announcement at this point is unrealistic.

10 hours ago, Rimsen said:

I will never understand why people need another Large Imp ship. We have the ISD, end of story. I would rather see more refits, than an unnecessery addition just to even the numbers. ISDs were jack of all trades. They were the backbone of every Imperial fleet.

It's more than enough (Thematically)

I suppose for me, thematically I would like a Venator SD so I can base a fleet on an earlier Imperial fleet before ISDs became so widespread. It would just be purely for narrative, wouldn’t actually need it in terms of playing.

4 minutes ago, sgtdeadman said:

I suppose for me, thematically I would like a Venator SD so I can base a fleet on an earlier Imperial fleet before ISDs became so widespread. It would just be purely for narrative, wouldn’t actually need it in terms of playing.

Yeah exactly. However this is a similar argument that everyone makes for an Executor (if it isn’t good for play, at least it looks cool). Which I have no problem with, except that I think a Venator could actually bring something more to the game, especially in the squadron department, or even some side arc dice.

Pretty important to note that Venator (1,100m or so) are also closer in size to a VSD (900m or so) as opposed to an ISD (1,600m).

At least to me, I think the Venator has more of a place in Armada than an SSD.

14 minutes ago, Admiral Litje said:

Yeah exactly. However this is a similar argument that everyone makes for an Executor (if it isn’t good for play, at least it looks cool). Which I have no problem with, except that I think a Venator could actually bring something more to the game, especially in the squadron department, or even some side arc dice.

Pretty important to note that Venator (1,100m or so) are also closer in size to a VSD (900m or so) as opposed to an ISD (1,600m).

At least to me, I think the Venator has more of a place in Armada than an SSD.

Dont get me wrong, a Venator on my shelf is of utmost importance...that said, A SSD of Equal quality would be great for the game, especially in the context of a "co-op" D&D style campaign, where Each player gains control of their own ship. The SSD Can be seen as a goal, either as a goal to capture, a goal to destroy, or at the very least in the beginning, a goal to "ENGAGE THE HYPERDRIVES!"

11 hours ago, Rimsen said:

I will never understand why people need another Large Imp ship. We have the ISD, end of story. I would rather see more refits, than an unnecessery addition just to even the numbers. ISDs were jack of all trades. They were the backbone of every Imperial fleet.

It's more than enough (Thematically)

I think outs actually the opposite problem: Rebels get a larger pool of ships to pick from while players look at the Imperial dearth of options and say "what's the matter, don't you already have Star Destroyers?"

While my opinions on the Legends era Dreadnought are well known, the expanded universe gave Imperials plenty of ships and Disney has shown a tremendous willingness to create new ships or reuse old ones when and where appropriate. Imperials don't need to be exclusively Imperial Star Destroyers. An additional small ship in a future wave would help mitigate this.

The Legend's Dreadnought, Ton-Falk-class escort carrier and/or Vindicator are my top three that I'd like to see for Armada.

11 hours ago, sgtdeadman said:

I suppose for me, thematically I would like a Venator SD so I can base a fleet on an earlier Imperial fleet before ISDs became so widespread. It would just be purely for narrative, wouldn’t actually need it in terms of playing.

I would love the Venator, but under the Republic's banner. Unfortunately I don't think it would fit the games theme.

10 hours ago, thecactusman17 said:

I think outs actually the opposite problem: Rebels get a larger pool of ships to pick from while players look at the Imperial dearth of options and say "what's the matter, don't you already have Star Destroyers?"

While my opinions on the Legends era Dreadnought are well known, the expanded universe gave Imperials plenty of ships and Disney has shown a tremendous willingness to create new ships or reuse old ones when and where appropriate. Imperials don't need to be exclusively Imperial Star Destroyers. An additional small ship in a future wave would help mitigate this.

Absolutely true. My argument was solely against a new large imperial ship. I would love to see that FFG broadens the supports ships for the imperials.

11 hours ago, Zeoinx said:

Dont get me wrong, a Venator on my shelf is of utmost importance...that said, A SSD of Equal quality would be great for the game, especially in the context of a "co-op" D&D style campaign, where Each player gains control of their own ship. The SSD Can be seen as a goal, either as a goal to capture, a goal to destroy, or at the very least in the beginning, a goal to "ENGAGE THE HYPERDRIVES!"

Lusankya campaign?

Sorry, doubles

47 minutes ago, Rimsen said:

I would love the Venator, but under the Republic's banner. Unfortunately I don't think it would fit the games theme.

Absolutely true. My argument was solely against a new large imperial ship. I would love to see that FFG broadens the supports ships for the imperials.

11 hours ago, Zeoinx said:

Dont get me wrong, a Venator on my shelf is of utmost importance...that said, A SSD of Equal quality would be great for the game, especially in the context of a "co-op" D&D style campaign, where Each player gains control of their own ship. The SSD Can be seen as a goal, either as a goal to capture, a goal to destroy, or at the very least in the beginning, a goal to "ENGAGE THE HYPERDRIVES!"

Lusankya campaign?

You mean the Bacta War, and yes... THE BACTA WAR BEGINS

did someone say

bacta war?

On 3/17/2018 at 11:52 PM, Drasnighta said:

No worries, just wanted to confirm that


There's no denying that the Imperials are 1 Ship (2 variants) down. But they are up in the Squadrons, so that's *kinda* balanced...

Maybe they'll solve all the issues at once by dropping a couple of ships for the Imps and a Repaint/variant (Experimental Retrofit) pack with U-Wings for the Rebels at the same time....

I would love a retrofit for the Neb-B or MC80L. Maybe a speedy Pelta to give more of a "raider" feel - with slots that allow it to take BT/BE.

I could see a variant of Neb-Bs, with the unique title upgrade "Escort Battle Group" - unlike the other fleet/group cards, this one could apply to any small rebel ship.

Escort Battle Group

Rebel Only, Small Ship Only

"When a friendly ship or squadron suffers damage from an enemy squadron's attack, you may exhaust a copy of this card on another ship at distance 1-3 and perform an unobstructed attack against that enemy squadron using 2 blue die."

5 points

On 3/19/2018 at 2:18 AM, Geressen said:

did someone say

bacta war?

YEA! WE DID! YOU GOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT!