1 minute ago, DOMSWAT911 said:

The Braha'tok as a flotilla could be the flotilla hunter that we are looking for

/swallows fly

/swallows spider to correct fly problem.

3 hours ago, dominosfleet said:

It seems like nearly every conversation in the past month devolves into this ship, it really is the new SSD. I guess I'm happy to see that audience finally quiet down but I'm concerned this is just their new Windmill to tilt at.

Hopefully, the dripping sarcasm came through on both the snipe gunship and the elusive swm20 comments.

13 hours ago, dominosfleet said:

It seems like nearly every conversation in the past month devolves into this ship, it really is the new SSD. I guess I'm happy to see that audience finally quiet down but I'm concerned this is just their new Windmill to tilt at.

"Appeared on-screen in the original trilogy but nobody actually noticed it" is a prestigious, yet controversial, category.

14 minutes ago, svelok said:

"Appeared on-screen in the original trilogy but nobody actually noticed it" is a prestigious, yet controversial, category.

yet somehow it fits right along with the "from the star wars expanded universe but canon in a DIFFERENT sci-fi universe" category.

16 minutes ago, svelok said:

"Appeared on-screen in the original trilogy but nobody actually noticed it" is a prestigious, yet controversial, category.

More like LucasFilm willfully ignored it, much like many of the other ships in the Rendezvous fleet and Endor fleet.

It has always suprised me that they have given every glimpsed background a full backstory, but many ships they just created new instead of fleshing out those ships. For the Empire it was more necessary. Rebels, not so much.

13 hours ago, dominosfleet said:

/swallows fly

/swallows spider to correct fly problem.

Are you serious? I don't know if you saw how the game work since is start? Each time there is something who gets a little bit too good, FFG throw something good against it.

Why that?

1. It's good for selling stuff.

2. It will force you to make some decision when you are creating your fleet. Do I want a counter in my list against what my foe could bring on the table? Hard decision, and that what I really like about this game

Many people hope first for a buff or a errata, but FFG seems to like those little bast... flotilla. So they decide to give them only a little buff (no admiral on them).

Because it was not enough, on wave 7, they put some card designed to help counter the activation advantage gave by them (and at the same time help for large ship list).

Is that enough... maybe. But personnaly, I want something cheap (like a flotilla) to kill them without loosing too many point on that single purpose.

14 hours ago, DOMSWAT911 said:

The Braha'tok as a flotilla could be the flotilla hunter that we are looking for

FFG just need something to fit that same role on the Empire side

Bye bye flotilla spam

Its as big as a Hamerhead Corvette.

Is that a flotilla?

No, so the Dornean shouldn't be one.

Besides, the empire could do with some new target practice that doesn't run around the outer edge of the field all game.

4 minutes ago, Indy_com said:

Its as big as a Hamerhead Corvette.

Is that a flotilla?

No, so the Dornean shouldn't be one.

Besides, the empire could do with some new target practice that doesn't run around the outer edge of the field all game.

If a GR-75 at 90 m. can be a flotilla... I think a Braha'tok (who is length is also 90 m.), could be one too

1 minute ago, DOMSWAT911 said:

If a GR-75 at 90 m. can be a flotilla... I think a Braha'tok (who is length is also 90 m.), could be one too

But the Hammerhead Corvette, which is an individual small base ship, is also around 90m

Considering both the Hammerhead and the Dornean are primarily combat/escort ships, it makes more sense for the Dornean Gunship to be a small based individual ship.

If you look on Wookieepedia, the CR-90 is more like 150 m. and the Hammerhead near 315 m.

Since the start of the game, FFG seems to don't really bother about the scale fact.

4 minutes ago, DOMSWAT911 said:

If you look on Wookieepedia, the CR-90 is more like 150 m. and the Hammerhead near 315 m.

Since the start of the game, FFG seems to don't really bother about the scale fact.

Thats a Hammerhead Cruiser.

Try this page.

5 minutes ago, Indy_com said:

Thats a Hammerhead Cruiser.

Try this page.

I think that was the point.

2 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

I think that was the point.

No-where on the page I linked says anything about how long it is.

The point I originally made was that the Dornean Gunship is roughly the same size as a Hammerhead Corvette.

The size that DOMSWAT911 gave it that of a Hammerhead Cruiser, a much larger spacecraft which is not the comparison I was trying to point out.

13 minutes ago, Indy_com said:

No-where on the page I linked says anything about how long it is.

The point I originally made was that the Dornean Gunship is roughly the same size as a Hammerhead Corvette.

The size that DOMSWAT911 gave it that of a Hammerhead Cruiser, a much larger spacecraft which is not the comparison I was trying to point out.

That's my bad for the length of the Hammerhead, I look at the cruiser. We don't have the length of the hammerhead class corvette on Wookieepedia and I don't have a reference guide at home.

But for the Braha'tok, it's really 90 m. and the GR-75 is at 90 m.

So as I said, in my last comment, FFG do what is best for the game (scalling) and not nessecerly what is really the rigth length. The visual is more important then the ''reality'' for them.

17 minutes ago, Indy_com said:

No-where on the page I linked says anything about how long it is.

The point I originally made was that the Dornean Gunship is roughly the same size as a Hammerhead Corvette.

The size that DOMSWAT911 gave it that of a Hammerhead Cruiser, a much larger spacecraft which is not the comparison I was trying to point out.

I read his post as a joke, implying that the hammerhead ought to have been the cruiser. My mistake, I guess.

Flotilla rules:

• Two models on one ship base, count as that base size
• If overlapping or overlapped by a non-flotilla, the other ship doesn't take a facedown damage
• Cannot be your flagship

If released, whether it is or isn't a flotilla is kind of... extremely immaterial

4 minutes ago, svelok said:

Flotilla rules:

• Two models on one ship base, count as that base size
• If overlapping or overlapped by a non-flotilla, the other ship doesn't take a facedown damage
• Cannot be your flagship

If released, whether it is or isn't a flotilla is kind of... extremely immaterial

I feel like people want it a flotilla just to have more flotillas in game. It is a minor thing in the grand scheme of things.

Just now, TallGiraffe said:

I feel like people want it a flotilla just to have more flotillas in game. It is a minor thing in the grand scheme of things.

I think most people are just using the word "flotilla" as shorthand for some collection of: cheap/scatter token/weakly armed/squadron 2/fleet support slot/etc.

But with different people using that shorthand to mean different things, it's kind of a useless term.

If one person says "it should be a flotilla", meaning "it should be 20-30 points"; and another says "it shouldn't be a flotilla", meaning "it shouldn't have a fleet support slot or the Scatter/Evade token set"; they just end up talking past each other.

Just now, svelok said:

I think most people are just using the word "flotilla" as shorthand for some collection of: cheap/scatter token/weakly armed/squadron 2/fleet support slot/etc.

But with different people using that shorthand to mean different things, it's kind of a useless term.

If one person says "it should be a flotilla", meaning "it should be 20-30 points"; and another says "it shouldn't be a flotilla", meaning "it shouldn't have a fleet support slot or the Scatter/Evade token set"; they just end up talking past each other.

Flotilla for me = Cheap, Weak, Can ram without taking damage.

I'd prefer if gunships were flotilla and I do not care if the sliding scale slides around to allow that.

..... my opinion on which gunships I would like to see is known.

Paging all members of the Broha'tok fan club!

Flotillas CURRENTLY may be weak, but the Broha'tok would be the exception to the rule.

On 16-3-2018 at 4:26 PM, svelok said:

I think most people are just using the word "flotilla" as shorthand for some collection of: cheap/scatter token/weakly armed/squadron 2/fleet support slot/etc.

But with different people using that shorthand to mean different things, it's kind of a useless term.

If one person says "it should be a flotilla", meaning "it should be 20-30 points"; and another says "it shouldn't be a flotilla", meaning "it shouldn't have a fleet support slot or the Scatter/Evade token set"; they just end up talking past each other.

flotilla gunship

1; is a gunship (2) on a flotilla stand on a small base

2: cannot be used to ram non flotilla

other things: irrelevant.

On 3/16/2018 at 7:23 AM, DOMSWAT911 said:

Many people hope first for a buff or a errata, but FFG seems to like those little bast... flotilla. So they decide to give them only a little buff (no admiral on them).

That's a nerf or de-buff, not a buff.

Buff means improvement.

On 17/03/2018 at 8:08 PM, elbmc1969 said:

That's a nerf or de-buff, not a buff.

Buff means improvement.

Sorry, first language is french. I was meanning a nerf when I wrote it down (but at least, I think you get the point), thank's for the side note

I figured. Just wanted to be sure you were aware of the terms.