customizing your troops

By boogle22, in Star Wars: Legion

I plan on cutting the heads off of the rebel troopers that are doubles and replacing them with different heads from other ranges. The star wars miniatures game has a lot of alien heads I want on the bodies of my rebels. The Admiral Ackbar head from the star wars miniatures game looks real cool. The problem is the scale of the minis. What do you guys have planned for your troops with regards to customizing?

I dunno what to do yet, But I would like to find some good bits into Star Wars universe: Heads, guns, backpacks... anything good in right size to custom the armies. I hope to see soon some third companies to start making bits.

If the game is actually 1-48th scale then there is a wealth of existing non Star Wars models in the right scale.

Expect 3rd party 3d printed stuff to come out as well.

43 minutes ago, devin.pike.1989 said:

Expect 3rd party 3d printed stuff to come out as well.

Till now I don't like any 3D printed stuff for my miniatures. I prefer casting. For terrain is perfect, but the detail of casting...

While I'm not sure I have the sculpting skill for it, I've toyed with adding some Clone Wars era flair to my Storm Troopers since I'd like to fluff them as the legends-era 501st.

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Currently, I plan to customize with paint.

There are plenty of Cannon and Legends near-humans with the main difference being the color of the skin (it's like changing skin tone is a cheap/easy way to communicate "Not human" for visual media or something :P) and two nearly identical models in vastly different skin/clothing colors will look sufficiently different at table top ranges for my desires. I'd rather see 3D prints/official scripts of alien races that can't be represented with just a head swap anyway like the Verpine anyway.

I'll be painting both Rebels and Imperials, so the Stormtroopers are going to have non-standard armour coloring anyway just because I want to be able to easily tell which models are mine in an Imperial vs Imperial game, or while at the store in general.

the ia stuff might be a good point for customizing, but you have to pick heads that will scale well with a body. the cutting off of the heads should be pretty straightforward so long as you get the right tools for the job. We will probably have to borrow heavily on 40k as that is the closest scale I believe.

2 minutes ago, boogle22 said:

the ia stuff might be a good point for customizing, but you have to pick heads that will scale well with a body. the cutting off of the heads should be pretty straightforward so long as you get the right tools for the job. We will probably have to borrow heavily on 40k as that is the closest scale I believe.

I think 40k is closer to IA's scale than Legion's....

Image result for star wars imperial assault scale

Image result for ia stormtrooper next to legion

I believe I read that there is a 5 mm difference in height of the IA vs Legion model (not including base).

If you find a good alien head from IA it might fit perfectly, but yeah most will not scale well.

I was thinking smaller miniatures with bigger heads might go well. For instance, maybe an Ithorians head form IA.

Image result for ithorian miniatures

As a note, anyone who is planning on playing in organized tournaments should wait to see if they have guidance regarding customization. For casual play, sure no problem proxy, convert, go wild. But Organized play might have stricter rules regarding conversions, similar to WarmaHordes, or playing at GW stores.

That is not good. If they do that I will counter by saying they have not adequately offered us variant heads to put on the troops

1 hour ago, boogle22 said:

That is not good. If they do that I will counter by saying they have not adequately offered us variant heads to put on the troops

And they will counter with kicking you out

Sorry but who is kicking them out?

The store owner running the event trying to make money?

The volunteer TO at larger events?

The worlds judge that 99.9% of people won't ever play in?

I think people can go nuts with alternative heads and it will be fine.

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1 hour ago, DarkTrooperZero said:

The store owner running the event trying to make money?

The store owner who needs to be allowed to run tournaments/carry product in order to keep selling product? Yes, because if you win, someone who didn't might lodge a complaint with FFG.

And the TOs at cons might as well, because if the con doesn't enforce the OP rules, then FFG can stop letting them run official tournaments.

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All of my rebel figures will be unique in some way. Most of the imperials as well. Hobby is part if the game. Dont be a punk and you wont have a problem

People, chillax already with your preferred punishment for gamers that might "sin" by changing around some plastic heads. #GollyGee

Apologizes if I came off a bit strong, but I am trying to point that people can and do get turned away from all sorts of tournaments if they have units/models/cards/etc that are modified in some way contrary to the posted rules of the tournament. Might there be some tourneys that don't adhere to the strictest application of the Organized Play document? Yes. But I doubt many will be stricter than the official rules coming from FFG. If you want to play in tournaments and you follow the OP guidelines then you will probably never run into an issue with regards to customization.

Tournaments are the events that get press, that have a bunch of photos of people standing at tables, rolling dice, and pushing models around posted online, either by the venue itself or the players. The reason companies have customization guidelines is in part because when people see the photos or see the event itself, the company wants their models to be represented. The money isn't in the rules, especially when they are freely available online as with Legion. It's in the plastic models and the cards that are in the boxes. Maybe they'll have a 50% rule or maybe it will 100%, we won't know until the OP rules are released.

If you are only planning on playing casually or want to chance it/know your local store doesn't care, by all means customize away and I look forward to seeing the fruits of you labor posted here, I'm sure they'll be awesome!

I know Legion is attracting the attention of Star Wars fans who have not played miniature wargames in the past, or at least not infantry based ones. So I was making an effort to inform them that there are frequently restrictions on customization to models in official play documents if they happen to be interested in playing in Legion tournaments in the future

16 hours ago, Caimheul1313 said:

As a note, anyone who is planning on playing in organized tournaments should wait to see if they have guidance regarding customization. For casual play, sure no problem proxy, convert, go wild. But Organized play might have stricter rules regarding conversions, similar to WarmaHordes, or playing at GW stores.

So there's a guy in my area who plays in official X-Wing Tournaments with a custom Futurama Planet Express hull mounted on what I believe is a YT-1300 or other medium base ship.

The point is, it's not as much the miniature that's the point, but rather the base. True LOS might impact that slightly, but I think we're pretty okay doing minor body part kit bashing.

9 minutes ago, Zrob314 said:

The point is, it's not as much the miniature that's the point, but rather the base. True LOS might impact that slightly, but I think we're pretty okay doing minor body part kit bashing.

Good for him. I've seen people refused entry into tournaments for head swaps before. Depends on the rules of the specific tournament and how stringent the enforcement, as I said. Just out of curiousity but do these tourneys enforce having the actual card for all upgrades?

X-wing is also a vastly different beast than an infantry game, particularly when it comes to the size of forces, and the presence of an identifying piece of cardboard on the ship's base.

There was a comment on a thread months back from a guy saying he was planning on making sculpts for a number of alien heads to put on models.

Dont know where he’s gone though probably fallen into the community abyss.

If anyone amazing out there feels like taking up the baton though? A series of alien heads in the 1/48 scale would be incredible! Would make the whole rebel alliance way more appealing for me.

If Fantasy Flight really wants to go the 40K route of model adherence, then they better accept all the stupid rule lawyering that comes with it.

It's much simpler to just allow conversions that don't break any gameplay balance.

These little plastic soldiers are a bit too expensive for me to justify myself sawing off their heads. I’m hoping we’ll start seeing models for “tentacle head resistance fighter” and “calamari face insurgent soldier” pop up on 3D printing sites soon.

39 minutes ago, OMGBRICK said:

These little plastic soldiers are a bit too expensive for me to justify myself sawing off their heads. I’m hoping we’ll start seeing models for “tentacle head resistance fighter” and “calamari face insurgent soldier” pop up on 3D printing sites soon.

We have been hacking up 40k minis for years :) they aren't cheap