So I decided to rate all the ships, on a scale of 1-5. Here's what I think. Some people might disagree about specific ships, but this is just what I think.

Rebels Empire Scum

Great Auzituck TIE/SF Fighter Scurrg

K-Wing TIE Advanced Lance r-Class Craft

Scurrg

Sheathipede

Good YT-2400 GUNBOAT Protectorate Starfighter

VCX-100 TIE Defender Aggressor

T-70 X-Wing VT-49 Decimator

YT-1300 TIE Silencer

Fair ARC-170 TIE Bomber HWK-290

Attack Shuttle TIE Adv. Prototype Kihraxz Fighter

HWK-290 TIE Striker M3-A Interceptor

Y-Wing Lambda-Class Shuttle StarViper

TIE Fighter Y-Wing

B/SF-17 Bomber YV-666

Jumpmaster 5000

Poor A-Wing TIE Aggressor M12-L Kimogila Fighter

B-Wing TIE Phantom Quadjumper

E-Wing TIE Fighter Z-95 Headhunter

Z-95 Headhunter TIE/FO Fighter Firespray-31

X-Wing TIE Interceptor

Useless U-Wing TIE Punisher

Firespray-31

Upsilon-Class Shuttle

Italicized ships are ships that only have one really good pilot, and the other pilots are all at least a tier worse. Anyway, what I noticed is how many of the ships I think are actually pretty fair. So this isn't meant to be a complaint about the game, rather a celebration that the ships seem to fit on a pretty good bell curve.

What do you think? How would you rate all the ships?

Best: Imperial Raider & CR90.

Next: Gozanti & Transport.

Then: C-ROC.

Middling but usable: Most of the smaller ships.

Last place: Tie Punisher.

Where is the Tie Silencer

4 minutes ago, smccaughan said:

Where is the Tie Silencer

Sorry. Kylo at least is "good" (4/5). My mind skipped over it because I was reading off the list of ships from the wiki and was thinking that I need to not include the Reaper, and for some reason I conflated the two (they're both huge fat TIEs on tiny little bases).

I wouldn't consider the TIE Advanced 'Great'. Vader is the only thing that is decent about that ship- and it has a really mediocre dial for an Ace. I'd say it's 'Good'. The Gunboat, however, I would put in the 'Great' category- it's versatile, aggressively costed, and very solid in nearly all situations.

16 minutes ago, Gilarius said:

Best: Imperial Raider & CR90.

Next: Gozanti & Transport.

Then: C-ROC.

Middling but usable: Most of the smaller ships.

Last place: Tie Punisher.

hey bud so theres a 4 point upgrade called context...

4 minutes ago, Vontoothskie said:

hey bud so theres a 4 point upgrade called context...

No context was stated in the OP.

Objection overruled.

If you have the Silencer 4/5 because of Kylo, the E-wing should be 3 or 4 for Corran.

10 minutes ago, Vontoothskie said:

hey bud so theres a 4 point upgrade called context...

Nope, Kieransi said he was rating 'all the ships'. He didn't include them all, and he invited the rest of us to rate them too. I posted my ratings - where are yours? *Grin*

What is this I don't even

I have trouble ranking pilot vs chassis. If not for Vader, would the advanced have and meta relevance? Same for Dash, Miranda, RAC, ert.

How the heck is a Lambda considered "Fair"?

That thing is 10000x worse than the Upsilon for any other use besides toting Palp around. And even then theres arguements palp is better on a deci atm (soon reaper too)

Also how dare you put my precious Punisher at the bottom! lol....ok ok fine the punisher sucks a fat one but Deathrain is still ridiculous.

Big issue with this mentality is very, very few ships are actually considered good outside of 1 pilot. Except for a thematic vader attack formation (which still has vader) when was the last time you saw a TIEAdv?
Or a non-Dash YT2400?
Non-Nym Scurrg?
Non-Fenn protectorate?
Non-Rey Falcon?

You get the point. In fact, typically the only ships that DO have multiple pilots used are things like Gunboats where the generic is capable of pulling some crazy weights.

Personally, I think you should italicize the TIE/FO or at least move it up to Fair. Omega Leader is really good; and the other pilots are decent.

11 minutes ago, Vineheart01 said:

Or a non-Dash YT2400?

Leebo, winning the European Championships

12 minutes ago, Vineheart01 said:

Non-Nym Scurrg?

Sol Sixxa does see a bit of use. And I've seen quite a few Karthakk/Loks doing the rounds in the Regionals season. Let's face it, the Scurrg is a solid all-round platform, more so than the Gunboat.

16 minutes ago, Vineheart01 said:

Non-Fenn protectorate?

I can't talk for anyone else, but I love me some Sweet T.

17 minutes ago, Vineheart01 said:

Non-Rey Falcon?

OK, you can have that one. Although I imagine VI Han could probably do some damage in the current meta.

Only time ive seen Sol at all is when someone was trying to place ALL THE BOMBS so he had both Sol and Nym

Great ships

TIE Fighter, TIE Advanced, TIE Bomber, TIE Interceptor, Lambda-class Shuttle, TIE/FO Fighter, TIE/SF Fighter, TIE Silencer, Upsilon-Class Shuttle, A-Wing, B-Wing, X-Wing, Y-Wing, U-Wing, YT1300, T-70 X-Wing, B/SF-17 Bomber, CR90, GR-75, VCX-100

1 hour ago, Favoritism Flight Games said:

I wouldn't consider the TIE Advanced 'Great'. Vader is the only thing that is decent about that ship- and it has a really mediocre dial for an Ace. I'd say it's 'Good'. The Gunboat, however, I would put in the 'Great' category- it's versatile, aggressively costed, and very solid in nearly all situations.

Agreed. You don't see the Advanced on the tables outside of Vader, and its dial is one of the least intuitive in the game. It's the only ship in the game that doesn't have either a 1-straight or 1-turn, while its only greens are 1-banks and 2-3 straights.

Gunboats have some of the best generics in the game.

I feel like the TIE/fo may also be underrated here. The Omega Squadron can all utilize the Juke/Comm Relay combo, which is still pretty potent. I'd rate it as a better chassis than the Advanced Prototype.

The Upsilon could probably get a bump into the Poor to Fair range. It's a really solid ship in Epic play, where its dial is less punishing and the ability to relay Coordinates can really pay off. Striden in particular shines in that format.

Overall, it's pretty good, but I agree that your TIE/fo is way underrated (really? Omega Leader is worse than the TIE Shuttle? And she probably has the best non-generic supporting cast in the game!) and the Interceptor fanboy in me refuses to think of Carnor Jax as useless. And I also think that OG Han deserves more than "fair" pilot, but again I'm pretty partial to the Falcon so there's that.

It's weird to see things like the TIE Advanced sitting at the top of the Imperial list, when it's really just Vader, and all the other pilots are sitting down in the poor-to-useless world (Jakku?). Ditto the Sheathipede, which is really only top tier because of PS11 Coordinate. The other pilots aren't necessarily bad, but without Fenn that ship would be middling at best.

Sometimes Meta-Wing really takes all the fun out of thinking about X-Wing...

http://meta-wing.com/ships?ranking_start=2012-09-14&ranking_end=2018-03-03&large_tournament_multiplier=true&widespread_use_multiplier=true&use_ranking_data=all&tournament_type=&

As far as your list...

Dash and the VCX should probably be moved to great.

Id put Quickdraw and Vader in the good category and bump RAC up to great.

If we're just talking ship types and not pilots/upgrades I would put the TIE Adv in the "fair" category, because what makes a lot of these ships tick are their upgrade options or their pilots.

Fanatical devotion to the cause aside, I would put the Gunboat in "great" just because there's so many different ways to build it, and from what I have seen, aside from the cheap harpoon carrier (although that's more of a problem with the upgrade itself not the ship) there is no #1 Gunboat build.

The Upsilon I would also put into "fair" or "good", because it's MILES better than it's predecessor (it can actually turn around with a bit of investment) and comes with some good upgrade options. One of these days on Vassal or by proxy I'm going to run 3 of them with FCS or Advanced Optics.

Missing: G1A-Interceptor (Mist Hunter): poor. (So poor that you have miss it). It has a similar role than kimogila but worst.

In my opinion, I would change some ships:

Tie/FO: Pushed to Fair just because of Omega Leader. Protectorate Starfighter is mainly played because of Rau, and you've consider it as good, I think this apply the same criteria. Same for YT and Dash Rendar.

VTA Decimator pushed to Great. RAC is one of the most overused empire pilots, and its freakingly good. Also, Oicunn can make funny and interesting lists which build around blocking and auto-damage.

Tie Phantom is fair.

E-Wing poor? It's **** GOOD for Yoda's sake.

There is also other slightly considerations I have (For example YV-666 consider as good), but these are my main.

We won't ever reach an agreement about tiering the ships, but I nonetheless love those efforts.

The Kimogila deserves at least the fair category, if not even the good one. While the named pilots aren't that great (Torani has a niche spot as a high ps alpha, but the list that made the best use of him was a collateral victim of the Trajectory Simulator nerf), the generics, with harpoons, are great filler ships in any scum lists, costing as cheap as 26 and acting as pseudo biggs most of the time.

Scum Boba could be raised to Fair, there's a list with him and Asaji that while still not being as strong as most of the field, it's more than viable and has done good in the regional season.

Scum Scurrg doesn't deserve Great tier: Nym had his time of glory, but the changes to Genius and Simulator should have dropped him to Good

I'd raise VCX to Great and maybe lower rebel Nym to Good.

I'm not sure how the Attack Shuttle should be valued: as a stand alone ship is definetly lower than Fair, as a docked ship is probably Great.

Since you value ships for the performance of their best pilot, E-Wing is at least Fair: Corran ain't anything lower than that.

I don't know how to rate the Silencer, but probably it's more Fair than Good.

Defenders, specifically Vessery, might still deserve Great rating.

Other than that, it's a nice tier system

2 hours ago, Gilarius said:

Nope, Kieransi said he was rating 'all the ships'. He didn't include them all, and he invited the rest of us to rate them too. I posted my ratings - where are yours? *Grin*

not sure how you disagree with a joke, but sure, we can pretend that it makes sense too mansplain the original post. lol

I don’t know, I really enjoy playing A-Wings. Juke + Snap is pretty powerful when flown well. Not top league powerful, but not bottom tier.

Nor the TIE in swarms.

Best of the Best:

Y-Wing, GUNBOAT, TIE Bomber

and then the rest...

Actually at this point I just want the Firespray to show up sometimes. It was the original opposite number to the Falcon but it’s been left behind since Wave 2. How about it guys, give this shop some love!