They may be old, Xanderf, but they were tough ships, which is why i suggested a higher engineering value.

However i agree with you completely, that they should have weak shields for their size. Heck for their huge crew sizes, command 4 wouldn't even be unreasonable

@>kkj Certainly not, they use them (very often) as mobile bases?

What I was trying to say is, that it would have been pretty thematic if the smallest regular (!!!) dedicated combat SHIP(not fighter) of the Navy was the arquitens. It seems a bit large for patrol and escort but the OT frequently shows the fleet to use overkill(ISD hunting tantive or falcon) so it would fit. I really liked the way they used it for Battlefront though, as a Vessel supporting the operations of an ISB commando team. Me not wanting it for the fleet doesn't mean I don't want it on other imperial branches.

I'd like to remind everyone we don't know if canon Dreadnaughts are old.

In the new canon they could be fresh off the assembly line.

Fact is we don't know anything about them, except they have the same design.

Yeah but they tend to orientate themselfes by the old material, i mean why else would you want to bring an old design back in the first place. They did the same with the Interdictor, Quasarfire and Hammerhead so im pretty sure we will see at least SOME Legends flavor

Except the Quasar Fire in canon is pretty different to its EU origin. It did faction jump after all.

The Interdictor is just early

I thought the Quasarfire was also used by the empire?

23 minutes ago, >kkj said:

I thought the Quasarfire was also used by the empire?

Yeah, but basically, apart from MonCal ships and Assault Frigates... Everything capital ship wise used by the Rebels was once Imperial...

Someone suggested it was a Carrack-class light cruiser. From what we can see, it MIGHT be, but it looks more like a Dreanought in my eyes. Though the two are similar. The size will be important here.

1 minute ago, Crabbok said:

Someone suggested it was a Carrack-class light cruiser. From what we can see, it MIGHT be, but it looks more like a Dreanought in my eyes. Though the two are similar. The size will be important here.

It has the auxiliary power generators on the side. Its definatly a drednaught.

2 hours ago, dominosfleet said:

Frequently they go by bulk of the ship, not length. for example the quasar is only 340 meters but is medium in large part because it's so wide and displaces so much area. Dread could easily be a medium for it's length + displacement.

The Disney Canon Quasar doesn't yet have a stated size does it? It looks much larger than the older legends one.

Someone may have said this already, but Filoni and the animation team are huge EU fans. They used the Marg Sabl maneuver in Season 1 of The Clone Wars, and, having done other things like bringing Thrawn back, it leads me to believe this must be the dreadnaught.

4 hours ago, Drasnighta said:

Yeah, but basically, apart from MonCal ships and Assault Frigates... Everything capital ship wise used by the Rebels was once Imperial...

The legends Quasar Fire was a bulk cruiser refitted as a small carrier. It was only ever used as a carrier by the Alliance/New Republic; if the Empire used them, it would be in the original freighter role.

6 hours ago, E-Man720 said:

The Disney Canon Quasar doesn't yet have a stated size does it? It looks much larger than the older legends one.

The bridge is the same bridge as on the Arquitens. Using the Arquitens's known size, it may be possible to estimate the size of the Quasar-Fire bridge, and extrapolate to find the dimensions of the whole ship.

6 hours ago, Ironlord said:

The bridge is the same bridge as on the Arquitens. Using the Arquitens's known size, it may be possible to estimate the size of the Quasar-Fire bridge, and extrapolate to find the dimensions of the whole ship.

There is also this image of the Ghost in the Hangar bay. The VCX is 34.2m wide.

Based on that alone, the wing span of the Quasar is between 275m - 412m.B Based on the Ghost being between 1/2 to 1/3 the width of the hanger bay. By that width, based on the model, the length is between 309m - 464m.

2 hours ago, cynanbloodbane said:

There is also this image of the Ghost in the Hangar bay. The VCX is 34.2m wide.

Based on that alone, the wing span of the Quasar is between 275m - 412m.B Based on the Ghost being between 1/2 to 1/3 the width of the hanger bay. By that width, based on the model, the length is between 309m - 464m.

After fishing out my Arquitens and Quasar-Fire FFG Armada models - they appear to be built to roughly the same scale - both have bridge window sections roughly 5mm across.

The Arquitens model is 73mm long. The Quasar-Fire model is 91mm long, 80mm wide.

Using 325m for the Arquitens, the scale is roughly 1/4452: That makes the Quasar-Fire 405m long, 356m wide. (And the bridge sections of both, 22.26m wide.)

The 405 x 356m figure, is fairly close to the middle of your proposed range.

13 hours ago, Aldaros said:

The legends Quasar Fire was a bulk cruiser refitted as a small carrier. It was only ever used as a carrier by the Alliance/New Republic; if the Empire used them, it would be in the original freighter role.

In other words... used by the empire ?

Okay, all sizing and canon questions aside, I'm just excited to see the Dreadnaughts are in. Wave 8, you may release when ready...

37 minutes ago, ImperialCaptain2017 said:

Okay, all sizing and canon questions aside, I'm just excited to see the Dreadnaughts are in. Wave 8, you may release when ready...

Sadly, I fear this is too new for wave 8.

Wave 8 more likely to be the Finalizer and Raddus.

Now, wave 9, maybe sure. Especially if the Dreadnought is small-base, as we didn't really have another good option for the Empire to match against a small-base Rebel release (the expected Dornian Gunships as a new Rebel flotilla).

11 hours ago, xanderf said:

Sadly, I fear this is too new for wave 8.

Wave 8 more likely to be the Finalizer and Raddus.

Now, wave 9, maybe sure. Especially if the Dreadnought is small-base, as we didn't really have another good option for the Empire to match against a small-base Rebel release (the expected Dornian Gunships as a new Rebel flotilla).

I see a problem with this. Finalizer and Raddus are both MASSIVE when compared what we currently have in game, with Raddus needing to be bigger than an ISD in game right now by at least a couple more inches and Finalizer over a foot. We already just had a wave of large ships, and I have a hard time imagining we would get two consecutive waves of large ships. In my mind, the new trilogy stuff will get its own core set with their version of the Neb-B and other ships, then we will see Raddus and Finalizer.

Difficult to see... always in motion is the future.

We still have the Dornean Gunships.

Wave 8 could be the Dornean Gunships and Dreadnaughts.

I wouldn't really appreciate if they waited for a rebel ship (Braha'tok flotilla) as a counterpart for the "Dreadnaught". There is no need for the ships of a wave to be similar in size after all. On the contrary it might even help to differentiate faction identity if the waves are rather asymmetric in shape.

11 hours ago, LennoxPoodle said:

I wouldn't really appreciate if they waited for a rebel ship (Braha'tok flotilla) as a counterpart for the "Dreadnaught". There is no need for the ships of a wave to be similar in size after all. On the contrary it might even help to differentiate faction identity if the waves are rather asymmetric in shape.

You know, this isn't a bad idea...I wouldn't mind if the Rebel scum got a different size ship than we Imperials did

Personally, I still want the Vindicator-class, but if they won't give us those, I'll take Dreadnaughts any day. Maybe as a 2-per-pack set like the Hammerheads?

14 hours ago, ImperialCaptain2017 said:

You know, this isn't a bad idea...I wouldn't mind if the Rebel scum got a different size ship than we Imperials did

Personally, I still want the Vindicator-class, but if they won't give us those, I'll take Dreadnaughts any day. Maybe as a 2-per-pack set like the Hammerheads?

I would be onboard for a dual pack set of dreadnoughts.

1 hour ago, Battlefleet 01 Studios said:

I would be onboard for a dual pack set of dreadnoughts.

Even if it cost more than a Chimaera pack, and there was s chance that 3 or 5 would be optimum numbers of them to run together?