What other Era Sourcebooks will we see?

By Bojanglez, in Star Wars: Edge of the Empire RPG

An era book that takes place between RotJ and FA would be a pretty easy lift as it would fit the three existing product lines. Edge games can accommodate shady deals in the era of the New Republic, AoR games can focus on the New Republic fighting the Imperial remnant, and, considering that the Jedi are still barely a thing, FaD games can be pretty much run as-is.

13 hours ago, Saseav said:

have said this elsewhere but the clone wars is the safest bet disney's got marketing wise right now.

Plus, the primary media that covered those events (prequel films and TV series) are wrapped, so not like there's going to be any concerns about major new media being introduced that's going to drastically shake things up.

Case in point of such a thing, Lothal as was written up in Nexus of Power (based very much around Season 1's status) and how the planet has since turned out when the Ghost's crew made their return early in Season 4. To say nothing of what was going with Chopper Base at the time the book was most likely written and what's happened as of the end of Season 3.

1 minute ago, Donovan Morningfire said:

Plus, the primary media that covered those events (prequel films and TV series) are wrapped, so not like there's going to be any concerns about major new media being introduced that's going to drastically shake things up.

Case in point of such a thing, Lothal as was written up in Nexus of Power (based very much around Season 1's status) and how the planet has since turned out when the Ghost's crew made their return early in Season 4. To say nothing of what was going with Chopper Base at the time the book was most likely written and what's happened as of the end of Season 3.

That's also true!

9 hours ago, Concise Locket said:

An era book that takes place between RotJ and FA would be a pretty easy lift as it would fit the three existing product lines. Edge games can accommodate shady deals in the era of the New Republic, AoR games can focus on the New Republic fighting the Imperial remnant, and, considering that the Jedi are still barely a thing, FaD games can be pretty much run as-is.

I think this era is still in flux. So I think the clone wars era is most likely because it is no longer in flux.

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I am sure there will be a sequel trilogy era sourcebook timed to coincide with the release of Ep IX (assuming FFG doesn't stop producing SWRPG content in favor of focusing on Genysis). We might get an OT era sourcebook in the meantime, but much of the already existing books cover that era. I have a feeling that going forward, Disney will be heavily pushing their licensees to promote the ST era over all the other eras (including OT). Disney sees the ST era as their "thing" and thus that's what Star Wars is now. Of course, this will change as additional movies and shows are produced. No word yet an what era the two new trilogies are going to be based in (everyone is hoping that Weiss and Beinoff's trilogy will be based during the Old Republic but I wouldn't hold my breath on that one). Maybe a sourcebook to cover the Solo movie, but the recently (finally) released Dawn of Rebellion sourcebook already sort of covers that time period (at least just a little afterwards). I would love to see a prequel trilogy/clone wars era sourcebook, but I have feeling that won't happen. Both Disney and FFG have made various comments stating that they will more or less pretend that those movies don't exist (bowing to the pressure from all the frothing fanbois who demand such a stance).

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21 minutes ago, Otakuon said:

I am sure there will be a sequel trilogy era sourcebook timed to coincide with the release of Ep IX (assuming FFG doesn't stop producing SWRPG content in favor of focusing on Genysis). We might get an OT era sourcebook in the meantime, but much of the already existing books cover that era. I have a feeling that going forward, Disney will be heavily pushing their licensees to promote the ST era over all the other eras (including OT). Disney sees the ST era as their "thing" and thus that's what Star Wars is now. Of course, this will change as additional movies and shows are produced. No word yet an what era the two new trilogies are going to be based in (everyone is hoping that Weiss and Beinoff's trilogy will be based during the Old Republic but I wouldn't hold my breath on that one). Maybe a sourcebook to cover the Solo movie, but the recently (finally) released Dawn of Rebellion sourcebook already sort of covers that time period (at least just a little afterwards). I would love to see a prequel trilogy/clone wars era sourcebook, but I have feeling that won't happen. Both Disney and FFG have made various comments stating that they will more or less pretend that those movies don't exist (bowing to the pressure from all the frothing fanbois who demand such a stance).

Source on Disney ever saying "we'll pretend the prequels don't exist"? That doesn't really jive with Episodes VII and VIII directly referencing PT events, PT characters showing up frequently in Rebels, Disney-approved comics and novels set in the PT era, etc.

11 minutes ago, jivjov said:

Source on Disney ever saying "we'll pretend the prequels don't exist"? That doesn't really jive with Episodes VII and VIII directly referencing PT events, PT characters showing up frequently in Rebels, Disney-approved comics and novels set in the PT era, etc.

You aren't going to find a quote from Bob Iger or Kathleen Kennedy flat out stating that they are going to "ignore the prequels ever existed" but you have to look at what they have done with Star Wars so far. First, they canceled the Clone Wars TV show. And based on all the work being done at the time, it was clear that the show-runners had planned on at least a two or three more seasons of that show. Now of course, they pull some elements from the the PT, but it is very fleeting outside of the Rebels show (which is made by exactly same team that created the Clone Wars show, BTW) and the comics (which the wider Star Wars audience doesn't read). Even though there are a few passing mentions of concepts from the PT in the new films, much of the groundwork laid by those films have been ignored. And even the filmmakers them selves hardly ever talk about the PT...while there are loads of attention paid to the OT (to the point that TFA was pretty much just a re-hash of ANH).

As for FFG, during their panel at Star Wars Celebration in 2015 (which I attended in person), they did in fact flat out say "We have no intention of releasing products set during the prequel films in the foreseeable future".

2 minutes ago, Otakuon said:

You aren't going to find a quote from Bob Iger or Kathleen Kennedy flat out stating that they are going to "ignore the prequels ever existed" but you have to look at what they have done with Star Wars so far. First, they canceled the Clone Wars TV show. And based on all the work being done at the time, it was clear that the show-runners had planned on at least a two or three more seasons of that show. Now of course, they pull some elements from the the PT, but it is very fleeting outside of the Rebels show (which is made by exactly same team that created the Clone Wars show, BTW) and the comics (which the wider Star Wars audience doesn't read). Even though there are a few passing mentions of concepts from the PT in the new films, much of the groundwork laid by those films have been ignored. And even the filmmakers them selves hardly ever talk about the PT...while there are loads of attention paid to the OT (to the point that TFA was pretty much just a re-hash of ANH).

As for FFG, during their panel at Star Wars Celebration in 2015 (which I attended in person), they did in fact flat out say "We have no intention of releasing products set during the prequel films in the foreseeable future".

1. It's ancedotal, but I have heard that the clone wars was horrifically expensive to make. Perfectly legitimate reason to cancel it without a conspiracy theory.

2. I didn't know that foreseeable future now applies in perpetuity. That was 2015...3 years ago. They also said that they didn't plan to release stats for the story characters and yet the latest book has them. Plans change.

1 minute ago, Ahrimon said:

1. It's ancedotal, but I have heard that the clone wars was horrifically expensive to make. Perfectly legitimate reason to cancel it without a conspiracy theory.

2. I didn't know that foreseeable future now applies in perpetuity. That was 2015...3 years ago. They also said that they didn't plan to release stats for the story characters and yet the latest book has them. Plans change.

Sure, of course plans change. I still hold out hope, but with each passing year, and more and more attention being paid to the ST instead, I just don't see FFG doing much with products based on the PT period. For them, it is purely economic. They are going based on what the greater fan base has said, that that is that the PT films should be forgotten (I disagree, but I am in the minority on this one). Now it's possible that Disney will bite the bullet and/or a filmmaker with an appreciation for the PT will come along and perhaps we will get new tales set during this era. If this happens, then we might finally see FFG release some products set during the Clone Wars.

16 minutes ago, Ahrimon said:

1. It's ancedotal, but I have heard that the clone wars was horrifically expensive to make. Perfectly legitimate reason to cancel it without a conspiracy theory.

2. I didn't know that foreseeable future now applies in perpetuity. That was 2015...3 years ago. They also said that they didn't plan to release stats for the story characters and yet the latest book has them. Plans change.

With #1 I believe there was also an element to do with the Cartoon Network - I think LFM had signed an exclusive deal with them and they are direct competition with Disney, rather than a grand conspiracy.

given the mixed feelings towards the PT, I see why it might not be picked over new material but don’t think any company would actively ignore a money stream without good cause

that all said, given how much hate there is for TLJ, I can’t help but wonder if the reaction to the PT will just be considered “the normal Srat Wars fan reaction” to any new stuff

1 hour ago, Otakuon said:

You aren't going to find a quote from Bob Iger or Kathleen Kennedy flat out stating that they are going to "ignore the prequels ever existed" but you have to look at what they have done with Star Wars so far. First, they canceled the Clone Wars TV show. And based on all the work being done at the time, it was clear that the show-runners had planned on at least a two or three more seasons of that show. Now of course, they pull some elements from the the PT, but it is very fleeting outside of the Rebels show (which is made by exactly same team that created the Clone Wars show, BTW) and the comics (which the wider Star Wars audience doesn't read). Even though there are a few passing mentions of concepts from the PT in the new films, much of the groundwork laid by those films have been ignored. And even the filmmakers them selves hardly ever talk about the PT...while there are loads of attention paid to the OT (to the point that TFA was pretty much just a re-hash of ANH).

As for FFG, during their panel at Star Wars Celebration in 2015 (which I attended in person), they did in fact flat out say "We have no intention of releasing products set during the prequel films in the foreseeable future".

Clone Wars cartoon was distributed by Cartoon network which is Warner Brothers. So of course it was cancelled. Which does not back up the claim that they are S canning the prequels

2 hours ago, Otakuon said:

I am sure there will be a sequel trilogy era sourcebook timed to coincide with the release of Ep IX (assuming FFG doesn't stop producing SWRPG content in favor of focusing on Genysis). We might get an OT era sourcebook in the meantime, but much of the already existing books cover that era. I have a feeling that going forward, Disney will be heavily pushing their licensees to promote the ST era over all the other eras (including OT). Disney sees the ST era as their "thing" and thus that's what Star Wars is now. Of course, this will change as additional movies and shows are produced. No word yet an what era the two new trilogies are going to be based in (everyone is hoping that Weiss and Beinoff's trilogy will be based during the Old Republic but I wouldn't hold my breath on that one). Maybe a sourcebook to cover the Solo movie, but the recently (finally) released Dawn of Rebellion sourcebook already sort of covers that time period (at least just a little afterwards). I would love to see a prequel trilogy/clone wars era sourcebook, but I have feeling that won't happen. Both Disney and FFG have made various comments stating that they will more or less pretend that those movies don't exist (bowing to the pressure from all the frothing fanbois who demand such a stance).

I doubt it. they dont get special access. so expect it 1 year after.

On 2/25/2018 at 10:59 PM, ImperatorRegnum said:

I was always hoping for a Clone Wars Era book, and now that Dawn of Rebellion is a thing, I'm sure that's coming down the pike sooner or later. I'm not too sure about the ST. I love the movies, but I'm not sure about it as a roleplaying setting, but then again, I've never really given it any thought. It could work, but I'm personally not in any kind of rush to see a ST sourcebook.

It's only quasi-related, but what I'm hoping for is an Imperial Sourcebook. Not a book with rules for playing Imperial characters, that would be pointless, since there's nothing stopping you from doing that with the existing rules. What I mean is a book that goes deep into exploring the Empire. What is the political hierarchy like? What is daily life like for the average citizen on an Imperial controlled world? What is the Imperial Military structure like? I realize that a lot of people might already know this stuff from the EU media, but aside from some video games and a few novels and comic book series, I didn't read too much of it.

Looks like I kind of got what I wanted in Dawn of Rebellion! I just got my copy today and as I was skimming through it I saw that there was quite a bit of general information about the Empire as well as the Rebellion. Based on what I saw flipping through the book, I`m going to enjoy reading this one even more than I thought!!!

2 hours ago, Otakuon said:

As for FFG, during their panel at Star Wars Celebration in 2015 (which I attended in person), they did in fact flat out say "We have no intention of releasing products set during the prequel films in the foreseeable future".

That was three years ago we are past the foreseeable future.

The Mace Windu comic was last year.

Canceling Clone Wars was a business decision, considering its cost and it was on another network.

Yes, I know the obvious reason Disney wanted to can the Clone Wars show was because it was not on one of their networks. That being said, Dave Filoni has mentioned numerous times that he had wanted to keep the show going so the decision to pull it was not mutual.

And I appreciate the comic (they are great source material for the RPG). But let's be honest, the audience for them is a tiny portion of the overall Star Wars fan base.

I would love to see FFG reverse course on their PT stance, but it seems like if they had any interest in that era, we would have seen some product announcements by now. But who knows, maybe in the lull between Solo and Ep IX will prompt them to dig deep (but again, I am sure they will continue to mine the ST era instead).

Most of the vehicles and equipment from the prequel movies have already been included in the books as easter eggs. We are still missing the Lucre-Hulk, the Venator and the Naboo starfighter and those are very likely to be included in Fully Operational or maybe Knights of Fate.

6 hours ago, Alisair Longreach said:

Most of the vehicles and equipment from the prequel movies have already been included in the books as easter eggs. We are still missing the Lucre-Hulk, the Venator and the Naboo starfighter and those are very likely to be included in Fully Operational or maybe Knights of Fate.

I hope they include the eta-2 starfighter. I can't believe is not published yet!

Sorry, out of topic.

1 hour ago, Rithuan said:

I hope they include the eta-2 starfighter. I can't believe is not published yet!

Might be that it's slated for the Warrior sourcebook, which has the Starfighter Ace spec in the corebook.