What other Era Sourcebooks will we see?

By Bojanglez, in Star Wars: Edge of the Empire RPG

I was always hoping for a Clone Wars Era book, and now that Dawn of Rebellion is a thing, I'm sure that's coming down the pike sooner or later. I'm not too sure about the ST. I love the movies, but I'm not sure about it as a roleplaying setting, but then again, I've never really given it any thought. It could work, but I'm personally not in any kind of rush to see a ST sourcebook.

It's only quasi-related, but what I'm hoping for is an Imperial Sourcebook. Not a book with rules for playing Imperial characters, that would be pointless, since there's nothing stopping you from doing that with the existing rules. What I mean is a book that goes deep into exploring the Empire. What is the political hierarchy like? What is daily life like for the average citizen on an Imperial controlled world? What is the Imperial Military structure like? I realize that a lot of people might already know this stuff from the EU media, but aside from some video games and a few novels and comic book series, I didn't read too much of it.

The era I would most likely see is never going to happen as it is cemented firmly in legends and is already being replaced with the new trilogy: The Legacy era. But I'm not upset about this.

14 hours ago, EpicTed said:

Back to the actual question: There aren't many more eras apart from the ones that you've mentioned, and I doubt FFG would be bold enough (or even be allowed) to make their own history entries. The only one not mentioned or covered yet is the tiny bit of actual New Republic existence between episodes VI and VII.

12 hours ago, Bojanglez said:

i know FFG got to create the Imperial Raider for X-Wing and basically create their own canon, not sure if they would be empowered to create an entirely new canonical era

It's not like there is nothing on the New Republic as of right now.

The Aftermath Trilogy, even though mediocre at best, covers the infant days the New Republic and I desperately need a visualization of a Starhawk (and stats too I guess :P )

There's also Bloodlines (which I haven't read yet admittedly) which falls into that time period.

While The Clone Wars was canceled it is still canon. So an eventual source book here seems pretty obvious. Also as others have pointed out: There is plenty "new canon" prequel content out there.

I occasionally play Star Wars Galaxy of Heroes, and they are allowed to put select Old Republic Content into their game. As of right now that includes: HK-47, Darth Nihilus, Sith Troopers and Sith Assassins.

They've also recently announced a Sith-centric raid which will feature Nihilus, Sion and Darth Treya.

So while still unlikely, I wouldn't say it is absolutely impossible to get a Old Republic book. Disney may be carefully cherry picking what to revive from the Old Republic, but the are cherry picking.

And yeah, we will probably have something on New Order / Resistance era once the trilogy concludes. They did the TFA beginner game after all, no reason not to expand on that.

Also!: In ten years or so we might get a sourcebook on Rian Johnsons new trilogy! :lol:

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There are a lot of wars and eras in Legends that could use some in-depth RPG information, but are pretty much hopeless to get it. My list from most to least intriguing would be: Yuuzhan Vong War, Pius Dea Era, Republic Dark Age, Seventh Alsakan Conflict, Thrawn’s Campaign, New Republic Era, Second Galactic Civil War, Sith-Imperial War/Third Jedi Purge/Darth Wredd’s Insurgency.

1 hour ago, kaosoe said:

The era I would most likely see is never going to happen as it is cemented firmly in legends and is already being replaced with the new trilogy: The Legacy era. But I'm not upset about this.

Yeah, the Legacy era (particularly that of the comics) had a lot of potential in terms of story-telling and campaigns, given it included elements of so many different past errors in one giant toy box for GMs to play with.

Just get jettison of Cade "Sleazo McWhinypants" Skywalker and you've got an era primed for the PCs to step up and become the main heroes of time.

57 minutes ago, Donovan Morningfire said:

Yeah, the Legacy era (particularly that of the comics) had a lot of potential in terms of story-telling and campaigns, given it included elements of so many different past errors in one giant toy box for GMs to play with.

Just get jettison of Cade "Sleazo McWhinypants" Skywalker and you've got an era primed for the PCs to step up and become the main heroes of time.

Yeah sleazo mcwhinypants is about the worst think about the era.

I loved the imperial knights and the twist on the imperials. The republic was pretty bland. And the republic ship design was kind of lame...

1 hour ago, Donovan Morningfire said:

Yeah, the Legacy era (particularly that of the comics) had a lot of potential in terms of story-telling and campaigns, given it included elements of so many different past errors in one giant toy box for GMs to play with.

Just get jettison of Cade "Sleazo McWhinypants" Skywalker and you've got an era primed for the PCs to step up and become the main heroes of time.

I have shamelessly cribbed some of the galactic structure from Legacy for use in my Raiders of the Lost Jedi campaign, set roughly 250 years after RotJ.

I'd love to see something between RotJ and Force Awakens.

1 hour ago, Split Light said:

I'd love to see something between RotJ and Force Awakens.

I would agree that this (along with the Clone Wars) is arguably the most feasible era to detail in the sense that there is a lot of ground that can be covered in the 30+ years between DoR and any potential TFA/TLJ sourcebooks without encroaching too much on the ST era.

I could see not only a Clone Wars book (Episode II/III and CW), but a Republic Book (Episodes I & II), Old Republic Book, Imperial Book (Episodes V/VI), New Republic Book (Post Episode VI), New Trilogy Book (VII/VIII/IX), plus more I don't know.

10 minutes ago, Edgookin said:

I could see not only a Clone Wars book (Episode II/III and CW), but a Republic Book (Episodes I & II), Old Republic Book, Imperial Book (Episodes V/VI), New Republic Book (Post Episode VI), New Trilogy Book (VII/VIII/IX), plus more I don't know.

I still don't have a copy (damn you, CSI!) but doesn't DoR cover the Republic Era?

Big fan of your ideas and would love to subscribe to your newsletter.

10 minutes ago, Bojanglez said:

I still don't have a copy (**** you, CSI!) but doesn't DoR cover the Republic Era?

DoR covers roughly 5BBY to 0BBY (Rebels and Rogue One). Most definitely not Republic era. It does, however, contain a decent amount of information on Imperial organizational elements that could be valuable to those running an Imperial campaign.

3 hours ago, Daeglan said:

Yeah sleazo mcwhinypants is about the worst think about the era.

I loved the imperial knights and the twist on the imperials. The republic was pretty bland. And the republic ship design was kind of lame...

I think the GFFA faction simply got the short end of the stick by virtue of not being as "cool" as Cade & Co or as "interesting" as the Fel Empire and the Imperial Knights, and not being nearly as plot critical as the Sith faction or even the Jedi survivors.

As much as I loved the setting and the concept, there were a number of times this felt like something from the 90's "dark/dork age" of comics, with Cade especially leading the charge on that front.

45 minutes ago, Donovan Morningfire said:

I think the GFFA faction simply got the short end of the stick by virtue of not being as "cool" as Cade & Co or as "interesting" as the Fel Empire and the Imperial Knights, and not being nearly as plot critical as the Sith faction or even the Jedi survivors.

As much as I loved the setting and the concept, there were a number of times this felt like something from the 90's "dark/dork age" of comics, with Cade especially leading the charge on that front.

Can we really blame Ostrander for leaning into the “bad boy” trope for the lead, though? After all, his other Star Wars “bad boy,” Quinlan Vos, became inexplicably popular and was one of the first EU characters to formally cross over to official LFL canon*.

*(Cue the “Vos’ visual was based on a background character in TPM, so he was always canon!! So nanny-nanny-boo-boo!! :P ” arguments.)

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44 minutes ago, Donovan Morningfire said:

As much as I loved the setting and the concept, there were a number of times this felt like something from the 90's "dark/dork age" of comics, with Cade especially leading the charge on that front.

I don't quite understand what you mean by this... And i agree the GFFA got the short end of the stick. And no so much because they weren't interesting as they were given no personality. no depth. They made them 1 dimensional.

2 minutes ago, Nytwyng said:

Can we really blame Ostrander for leaning into the “bad boy” trope for the lead, though? After all, his other Star Wars “bad boy,” Quinlan Vos, became inexplicably popular and was one of the first EU characters to formally cross over to official LFL canon*.

*(Cue the “Vos’ visual was based on a background character in TPM, so he was always canon!! So nanny-nanny-boo-boo!! :P ” arguments.)

except she didn't really make him bad boy so much as whiny *****...

2 hours ago, Bojanglez said:

I still don't have a copy (**** you, CSI!) but doesn't DoR cover the Republic Era?

Big fan of your ideas and would love to subscribe to your newsletter.

I figured for monetary reasons we would see era books by trilogy, and maybe by movie, with updated stats on each character, etc.

BTW...Newsletter?

2 hours ago, Bojanglez said:

I still don't have a copy (**** you, CSI!) but doesn't DoR cover the Republic Era?

Big fan of your ideas and would love to subscribe to your newsletter.

no DoR does not cover the Republic.

13 minutes ago, Daeglan said:

except she didn't really make him bad boy so much as whiny *****...

That’s an element, sure. But the (attempt at, at least) the bad boy trope is pretty clear in the character.

Oh, and...

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John Ostrander. Definitely not “she.”

Series artist Jan Duursema?

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“She.”

;)

48 minutes ago, Nytwyng said:

That’s an element, sure. But the (attempt at, at least) the bad boy trope is pretty clear in the character.

Oh, and...

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John Ostrander. Definitely not “she.”

Series artist Jan Duursema?

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“She.”

;)

OK so I mixed them up. :P
I didn't get bad boy from him at all. I got whiny guy trying to be a bad boy and failing at it.

My problem with a Clone Wars era book is what to do with Specialisations, the book will want a mountain of them but what’s the difference between a “Clone Trooper” and a “Retired Clone Trooper” or a “Padwan” and “Escaped Padwan”. DoR covers lots of the iconic character options already. I still think they will make one though!

I would also love to see a “Height of the Republic” book set before any annoying little kid wins a pod race. Then a New Republic book set after Jaku but before TFA would be great to fill in some blanks, I really want to know more about the state of the galaxy and how it functions.

Then there’s the obvious book around the Resistance/First Order conflict and what comes from all that.

For my pipe dream choice I would love a setting book on the foundation of the Jedi Order, a book set long ago with a much different philosophy behind the use of the Force

33 minutes ago, Richardbuxton said:

My problem with a Clone Wars era book is what to do with Specialisations, the book will want a mountain of them but what’s the difference between a “Clone Trooper” and a “Retired Clone Trooper” or a “Padwan” and “Escaped Padwan”. DoR covers lots of the iconic character options already. I still think they will make one though!

I would also love to see a “Height of the Republic” book set before any annoying little kid wins a pod race. Then a New Republic book set after Jaku but before TFA would be great to fill in some blanks, I really want to know more about the state of the galaxy and how it functions.

Then there’s the obvious book around the Resistance/First Order conflict and what comes from all that.

For my pipe dream choice I would love a setting book on the foundation of the Jedi Order, a book set long ago with a much different philosophy behind the use of the Force

A few hypothetical Clone Wars-era trees I could see, based on their character archetypes (similar to how Ship Captain is basically Hera Syndulla, Pirate is basically Hondo, etc):

- ARC Trooper and/or Republic Commando - the Captain Rex spec, straight up special forces combat

- Clone Commander - the Commander Cody spec, some combat utility but more geared towards squad tactics and leadership support

- Insurgent - the Saw/Steela Gerrera spec

- Slaver - based on the Zygerrian and Trandoshan slavers we see throughout the period

- Fallen Apprentice - the Ventress / Maul / Savage spec, perhaps our first full-on Dark Side specialisation?

- Jedi General - geared towards rounding out a FS-sensitive class with leadership and tactical support utility, akin to the sudden transition from peacekeper to war commanders.

There's definitely a lot of potential in the Clone Wars era, those are just off the top of my head.

I think any new material depends on the direction of the upcoming live action series set to launch on Disney's future streaming service. Rebels material was incorporated into X-wing (several ships) and the RPG line (Nexus of Power, various artwork, etc) while the series was still airing. I could not possibly speculate until next year.

If a miracle happens and they start making Legends sourcebooks I would want Legacy comics era, 2nd Galactic Civil War era, New Republic era, KOTOR era, TOR era, then Vong War. I'm a capship junkie and that's basically the order of most new ships introduced that I was interested in. The Seventh Alsakan Conflict could IMO be folded into the TOR book, and I would love to see the Corellian frigates mentioned in Essential Guide to Warfare.

If they make a Clone Wars book I hope they expand the fleets. From what I can tell the canon CIS navy is lacking warships smaller then sil 7 currently and having some more sil 5-7 Galactic Republic warships certainly wouldn't hurt.

have said this elsewhere but the clone wars is the safest bet disney's got marketing wise right now.