Saw's Renegades Expack makes no bloody sense.

By MacchuWA, in X-Wing

2 hours ago, Zura said:

There are many cards that are worse and less used than r3, like decoy, saturation salvo, elusiveness...

...Bodyguard...

1 minute ago, FTS Gecko said:

...Bodyguard...

Great, now I got that song in my head,,,,

Decoy:

Rac + VI

Echo + Decoy

Hard to pull off though

21 minutes ago, FTS Gecko said:

...Bodyguard...

Actually I think Bodyguard has some potential on maybe Inaldra, maybe backing up Asajj. It's not the most amazing thing; it's more about tacking on one more bit of survivability to the already pretty absurd Asajj.

And for what it's worth, while we can all agree that R3 is pretty crap, I've seen an idea about putting it on VI Shuttle Fenn. It's probably still not "good" on him, but he's the one pilot in the game who just might hit that sweet spot of super-high PS and caring much more about staying alive than inflicting damage output. Still probably too RNG-dependent, though.

On 2018-02-22 at 12:47 PM, GrimmyV said:

It would require high PS to use the evade token on defense at the expense of canceling a focus result during your attack. This is the main reason it’s seen as crap. If you didn’t roll a focus the droid ‘does nothing’. If you give up an entire die then you will probably miss.

however if this droid is paired with gunner/Luke crew or even TLT/cluster missiles which fire twice, and Juke, then you can still get another attack and you get to modify the defender’s dice.

On Corran you could possibly make a case for R3 and have a PS 10 evade token and not be locked into greens by regen. Your first shot you could burn a focus die, get a TL with FCS, and hit really hard with the second end phase shot. Of course this requires horn to bug out the next turn with no shots and nothing to do. In this build the second shot might not be taken at every opportunity unless the first shot was missed anyway or if it’s almost guaranteed to finish of someone. At any rate, it’s a bit cheaper but still really expensive. Not sure if SD with taking evade action for 2 tokens a round is worth it. How long does the standard corran last in the meta today?

hey I’m trying! I’ve never flown this mech.

Wasnt R3 from the ARC170 expansion? Couldn’t R3 be used with Norra’s pilot ability? Her pilot ability reads, “When attacking or defending, you may spend a target lock you have on the enemy ship to add 1 Focus result to your roll.” It would mean you need to spend a target lock to get an evade, but you would get an evade. Maybe not the best use of 2 points, but not completely useless if it keeps Norra alive... I guess.... just a thought.

Swapping a TL for an evade with R3, or using her ability, adding a focus, spend a focus to make it an evade anyway.

A well built Norra will have focus/TL most rounds, so if you need to use her ability defensively, you can do it THIS attack, regardless of whether you've been attacked already this round.

On 2/22/2018 at 12:06 AM, Stevey86 said:

R3 Astromech begs to differ.

It’s good in HotAC at least.

On 2/22/2018 at 2:38 PM, GrimmyV said:

There’s a long sad wall of non-viable pilots in this game.

Hmmm. Sounds like a challenge. Ok gang, what is the absolute worst way to spend one squad point in this game?

Tractor beam on any Outrider equipped YT-2400.

Munitions Failsafe on any ship without limited secondary weapons :P

Back on topic, I do like the new paint jobs and I can't wait to try out the new stuff they're bringing, though I will withhold final statements until the release as to its contents.

Edited by impspy
44 minutes ago, Smutpedler said:

Tractor beam on any Outrider equipped YT-2400.

WRONG. Jammer Beam.

14 minutes ago, GrimmyV said:

WRONG. Jammer Beam.

Lol. That is actually more pointless. I'm falling behind all the new stuff :P

Couldn't some of the named U-Wing pilots be considered a fix? We don't knwo what they do, but what if they're just insane or undercosted? It's not like some of the other "fixes" made all pilots viable for a given ship.

58 minutes ago, Henshini said:

Couldn't some of the named U-Wing pilots be considered a fix? We don't knwo what they do, but what if they're just insane or undercosted? It's not like some of the other "fixes" made all pilots viable for a given ship.

They could, but it's a poorer way to fix the ship than fixing it's underlying fundamentals in some fashion. If you add a couple of great pilots, great, you've added a couple of pilots, but if you fix the chassis, you also get to revive the old ones. Cassian and Heff are both great in the right squad, just costly for their offence, and I'm sure there're evil geniuses who can come up with great lists for Bodhi and the generic. But right now they just don't do enough for their points.

Besides, think about other ships which are held up by a single pilot: Does the E Wing not need fixing because Corran is good? Was the T-65 fine when Biggs or occasionally Wes were the only ships being flown?

A great new pilot will get some table time for a ship, but a proper fix is, IMO, more than just a new pilot.

2 hours ago, Smutpedler said:

Tractor beam on any Outrider equipped YT-2400.

Specifically on Vrill.

Fail: Missing the Bor Gullet card.

Bor Gullet (Crew, 2 points): At the start of the activation phase, discard this card. Your opponent must reveal all of his or her dials.

On ‎2‎/‎22‎/‎2018 at 8:53 AM, Darth Meanie said:

When I was a wee lad, in the day before the internets, products were either at the store for purchase, or you had no idea they existed.

We were happy. Angst free. And only used tin foil to wrap our potatoes to take to school.

Yep...... :)

On 2/23/2018 at 2:29 AM, Mef82 said:

R3 would like a word with you. Both of them.

You know, there’s a small case to be made for Red Vet Juke Com relay R3 x 3. (Don’t forget IA!)

a very small case. But yeah. Maybe.

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On 2/22/2018 at 1:32 AM, KommanderKeldoth said:

Yeah a lot of folks have been saying that we will actually get two more U-wing pilots (maybe K2-SO?). I'm not sure how they could fix the U-wing, unless renegade refit uses a torpedo slot to lower the cost. That could also make a 5 x-wing list possible without having 5 of the PS 1 pilots.

or the U-wing fix card isnt being shown. if they for example gave pivot wing a -2 cost, or if they changed the +1 agility to instead "perform a free reinforce action at the start of the combat phase", or if they just made pivot wing where you didnt need to flip it but got both benefits but kept the cost the same.

basically a strong buff errata on the title is an instant U-wing fix.

The simplest buff erratum would be to make the dual card flip happen before you reveal, rather than after. THen you don't have to telegraph it which is one of the biggest issues with it.

4 hours ago, Hawkstrike said:

Fail: Missing the Bor Gullet card.

Bor Gullet (Crew, 2 points): At the start of the activation phase, discard this card. Your opponent must reveal all of his or her dials.

you forgot to include Bor Gullets best ability dude

"at the end of the setup phase, roll an attack die. on hit or critical hit, your opponent must ingest acid while wearing a jellyfish on their head for the remainder of the game."