I just finished a slog of a vassal game (about 2.5 hours) in which I flew Asajj, Unkar and Thweek (FCS, Autos, Titles) against a standard Dengar/Ketsu list. I had the better bid, so naturally shadowed Dengar and gave my opponent initiative.

Asajj and Unkar combined did literally no damage throughout the game. Seriously. Total flops. Their greens gained a total of exactly 1 evade between them before they died, so it was a quick, 2 round death for Asajj, and a 1-shot on Unkar.

Nevertheless, Thweek killed off Dengar, going down to 2 hull in the process. It was then him against a full health Ketsu, worth 20 points more than him. Over the next hour and a half we played a game together, wherein I slowly whittled down Ketsu, despite some nasty blanked attack rolls (4 less hits in total than average). On the second to last turn, Thweek scored double direct hits on Ketsu, bringing him down to 3 hull against Thweek's single remaining hull point.

Final turn comes, and I move in for the kill instead of running like I should. I die as expected (only just. I believe Ketsu rolled 3 hits/crits on every single roll of that game bar one), but my revenge shot rolls crit/hit/hit. my opponent rolls double evades. The crit gets dealt. Major explosion; die roll is a hit. The card is flipped. Damaged cockpit. Wah wah.

Even so, the fact that - under circumstances of awful reds and average greens against amazing reds (10 paint more than average on 68 dice, 7 hits/crits) and average greens - Thweek very nearly solo'd a netlist. My piloting with him was a bit uncanny - I was only shot at R1-2 a total of 4 times I believe, each with a focus token at hand. The starviper is far from dead folks - it's a viable ship in this meta (as one of the few ships that always finds Kanan's blind spot), and any non-bomb meta to come.

It's just a pity that Virago is a unique title, considering every single pilot pays for its slots.

Dengar Ketsu isn't even close to being a top tier list, just for the record.

I wouldn't use the word incredible (unless he has an EPT or if Biggs didn't get nerfed). He's just merely good and a solid Tier 2 pilot. If you have 30 points in a scum list, you really can't go wrong with Thweek/ATs/Both Titles/FCS.

People are flying triple star vipers, and doing well with them.
I think people are aware that it isn't dead.

Also, I always limit my vassal games, just to avoid the monstrosity of what you played.

19 minutes ago, ModernPenguin said:

People are flying triple star vipers, and doing well with them.
I think people are aware that it isn't dead.

Also, I always limit my vassal games, just to avoid the monstrosity of what you played.

Worth noting the triple viper lists often don't include Thweek because he can't take PTL. Not being able to reposition and focus in the same turn is killer. It's why he often has Glitterstim.

I'm all in favour of people thinking Thweek is amazing though, one less Ghost or Miranda/Nym across the table.

THWEEK! Drink!

My first experience with Thweek was similar to yours. I took Thweek + Fenn Rau + Talonbane Cobra up against an imperial Alpha-strike list. By the end of turn 3 Fenn and Talonbane were dead and I had only managed to strip Darth Vader’s Shields. Thweek (who had mimicked Quickdraws ability and had Pulsed Ray Shields and Ion Dischargers for regenning Shields) went on to nearly Solo the imp list by himself. He took out Vader, then the inquisitor, and ended up with 2 Hull + a shield against a 2-Hull QuickDraw. Quickdraw rolled 3 hits and Thweek blanked out on defense, bringing an end to the game.

Yeah, I love me some Thweek. He may not be tier 1 (all the time, it depends on your opponent’s list), but he’s dang fun to fly.

If you want fun to fly Intense Guri >>>>>> Thweek.

Thweek is incredible. Until you play against 4 Wookiee’s.

Nobody wins a 2.5hr game of X-Wing...

13 minutes ago, MasterShake2 said:

Nobody wins a 2.5hr game of X-Wing...

That would depend on the opponent and alcohol.

8 hours ago, thespaceinvader said:

Dengar Ketsu isn't even close to being a top tier list, just for the record.

Absolutely. I'd put it around tier 1.5. It'd be tier 1, but Dengar/Aajj takes that spot.

6 hours ago, Jo Jo said:

I wouldn't use the word incredible (unless he has an EPT or if Biggs didn't get nerfed). He's just merely good and a solid Tier 2 pilot. If you have 30 points in a scum list, you really can't go wrong with Thweek /ATs/Both Titles/ FCS .

Very true, but I think that with FCS he gets decent action economy, which is worth something. Thweek can pretty much solo any arc-based ship in the game as it is (I've burned down regen Poe in something like 4 turns with him). So the key is building the rest of your list to eat pancakes.

6 hours ago, apoapsis said:

Worth noting the triple viper lists often don't include Thweek because he can't take PTL . Not being able to reposition and focus in the same turn is killer. It's why he often has Glitterstim .

I'm all in favour of people thinking Thweek is amazing though, one less Ghost or Miranda /Nym across the table.

It's hard to fly him in a triple arc-dodger list because he's bad at taking focused fire, and so are all your other ships. Certain abilities make up for this, but the PS is just the better call most of the time.

4 hours ago, Fuzzywookie said:

Thweek is incredible. Until you play against 4 Wookiee’s.

I'd probably be in favour of that matchup. Assuming that the wingmates can take out 2 before they die, then Thweek's left with two arc-based ships with a very small offensive mod. It'd be dicey, but doable.