Made this list to goof around with against AI and try the harpoon missiles everyone seems to be in love with.

Not made to be competitive. I wouldn't know if it was or wasn't anyway.

But the idea of bombers flying around with that big, fat mutant bomber makes me chuckle, so here it is.

ROCKET PUNCH

99 points
PILOTS

Black Eight Squadron Pilot (37)
TIE Punisher (23), Accuracy Corrector (3), Extra Munitions (2), Harpoon Missiles (4), Homing Missiles (5), Guidance Chips (0)

Gamma Squadron Veteran (31) x 2
TIE Bomber (19), Ruthlessness (3), Harpoon Missiles (4), Homing Missiles (5), Guidance Chips (0)

Or you looking for input and criticism, or just throwing it out there?

1 hour ago, GreenDragoon said:

Or you looking for input and criticism, or just throwing it out there?

Just throwing it out there for people to discuss at their leisure if they so choose. I have exactly zero stake (or interest in) in the competitive scene, so I generally just like to see the conversations and theory-crafting that comes from these things. Throw most any list out there and people will discuss aspects of it, which can be interesting and informative (and if I'm lucky, funny).

...at least until they inevitably start bickering about it

I throw out "theme" lists in this and Armada just to experiment with...well...themes.

(And it's an excuse to come up with silly names for themed rosters.)

If somebody says, "Hey, I'll try that," and they end up having fun with some absurd idea of mine, then great.

But if you have comments on anything I vomit onto the squad page, by all means, discuss them. I never shy away from friendly observations.

(I hate the egotism and all-too-often caustic competition that sometimes comes from the tournament/competitive scene, so I give it none of my energy or time. Also, I think meta-gaming stagnates fun when taken to tournament extremes.)

I‘m asking because suggestions are usually about improvements. But that only makes sense if you care about playing a better list, where better means more competitive.

For example the amount of ordnance, or the lack of long range scanners are two things that come to mind.

12 hours ago, GreenDragoon said:

I‘m asking because suggestions are usually about improvements. But that only makes sense if you care about playing a better list, where better means more competitive.

For example the amount of ordnance, or the lack of long range scanners are two things that come to mind.

Explain. Assume I'm open to criticism and learning (because I am ) inasmuch as it makes for interesting conversation where it applies to this game.

I may never apply what you observe, but that doesn't make it unworthy of conversation.

8 hours ago, Deathseed said:

Explain. Assume I'm open to criticism and learning (because I am ) inasmuch as it makes for interesting conversation where it applies to this game.

I may never apply what you observe, but that doesn't make it unworthy of conversation.

You use Black eight at PS4 and Gamma Vet at PS5.

I‘m not sure why you chose this Punisher pilot, because you did not add an EPT, not even a 0pt one. At least add adaptability to give all the same PS, which should help your flying.

But even if they are all at PS5: how do you acquire target locks? And are you fine with losing all your offensive power (which you pay 29 points for!) if you happen to play against higher PS ships?

That brings me to the second point: you pay 29points for ordnance. That‘s a lot!

You can save 3 points on each bomber by ditching Homings and adding Extra Munitions(EM). Then Ruthlessness: if you really want the splash with less danger, you could also switch Homing with Assault missiles, change Harpoons with EM and Ruthlessness with something else like Crackshot. That saves you 8 points total. If you don‘t want the splash, then you can save 10pt by going down to harpoon and EM.

And finally the accuracy corrector. Why? For your primary weapon?

with all these points saved, you can upgrade to better pilots. I take it that you are fixed on 1 punisher and 2 bombers. If not then gunboats are objectively the better choice.

12 hours ago, GreenDragoon said:

You use Black eight at PS4 and Gamma Vet at PS5.

I‘m not sure why you chose this Punisher pilot, because you did not add an EPT, not even a 0pt one. At least add adaptability to give all the same PS, which should help your flying.

But even if they are all at PS5: how do you acquire target locks? And are you fine with losing all your offensive power (which you pay 29 points for!) if you happen to play against higher PS ships?

That brings me to the second point: you pay 29points for ordnance. That‘s a lot!

You can save 3 points on each bomber by ditching Homings and adding Extra Munitions(EM). Then Ruthlessness: if you really want the splash with less danger, you could also switch Homing with Assault missiles, change Harpoons with EM and Ruthlessness with something else like Crackshot. That saves you 8 points total. If you don‘t want the splash, then you can save 10pt by going down to harpoon and EM.

And finally the accuracy corrector. Why? For your primary weapon?

with all these points saved, you can upgrade to better pilots. I take it that you are fixed on 1 punisher and 2 bombers. If not then gunboats are objectively the better choice.

Answer to all of the above: Because I honestly just threw it together in a builder in less than two minutes without giving it a single thought other than "Rockets! And bombers to carry lots of them!" That's as far as my thinking went. Also, because as I stated in the original entry, this was intended for use against AI. Specifically HotAC TIE Academy pilots (which I didn't specify). They're all PS1, so I had no concern at all other than being above PS1.

Given the sense of the list, your purpose, etc., I'm not sure I'd run both Homing and Harpoon missiles. I'd swap one for Cluster, at least on the Punisher. They work quite well with Accuracy Corrector, and having a mix of kinds of ordnance is a lot more fun than two very similar kinds of missiles.

13 hours ago, GreenDragoon said:

I‘m not sure why you chose this Punisher pilot, because you did not add an EPT, not even a 0pt one. At least add adaptability to give all the same PS, which should help your flying.

Not even Black Eight can take an Elite upgrade for Punisher Pilots. None can.

Just now, theBitterFig said:

Not even Black Eight can take an Elite upgrade for Punisher Pilots. None can.

whelp, that happens when lists without a squadbuilder are posted. Not sure what I looked at to check, but clearly not a punisher.