The Big Archetype List

By Force Majeure, in X-Wing

Hey all, ever since I started playing I wanted to catch up on the "history" of the many different list archetypes that we've had over the many metas from Fat Han , Fairship Rebels, Nymranda, Manaroo , etc., to today.

I don't have all the knowledge, but together we do. Help me put a list together that helps tell the story of what all the popular lists have been and currently are.

You post the name of the list, and the list with the typical ships & upgrades. I'll try and keep it all organized and make edits as we go along.

Here we go:

3BQD
Quickdraw + Veteran Instincts + Fire-Control System + Advanced Optics + Special Ops Training
Nu Squadron Pilot + Harpoon Missile (3x)

4 Lambdas
Omicron Group Pilot (4x)

5-ship Rebels-BXXYY
Blue Squadron Pilot
Rookie Pilot (2x)
Gold Squadron Pilot (2x)

5-ship Rebels - BBXYA
Blue Squadron Pilot (2x)
Rookie Pilot
Gold Squadron Pilot
Prototype Pilot

5-ship Rebels - BBBAA
Blue Squadron Pilot (3x)
Prototype Pilot (2x)

BBBBZ
Blue Squadron Pilot (4x)
Bandit Squadron Pilot

Black Crack Ties (Fall 2015-???)
Howlrunner + Crackshot
Black Squadron Pilot + Crackshot (x3)
Academy Pilot (x3)

Blue Thunder
Blue Squadron Pilot + Heavy Laser Cannon (2x)
Rookie Pilot (2x)

Bloody Daggers
Dagger Squadron Pilot (2x)
Red Squadron Pilot (2x)

Bumpmasters
Contracted Scout + Intelligence Agent
Contracted Scout + Dengar
Contracted Scout + Boba Fett

Buzzsaw Lambda and Mini-Swarm
Omicron Group Pilot + Darth Vader + Gunner + Fire Control System
Academy Pilot (5x)

Buzzsaw Lambda and Phantom
Omicron Group Pilot + Darth Vader + Gunner + Fire Control System
Whisper

Chewie + Lando
Chewbacca + Expert Handling
Lando Calrissian + Expert Handling

Death Rey
Rey + Expertise + Millennium Falcon (TFA) + Kanan Jarrus + Finn
Jan Ors + Wired + Twin Laser Turret + Moldy Crow

DengarNym

Dengaroo
Dengar + Lone Wolf + Punishing One + R5-P8 + Zuckuss + Plasma Torpedos + Glitterstim + Countermeasures .
Manaroo + Push the Limit , Unhinged Astromech, Recon Specialist , Engine Upgrade

Fat Han
Han Solo + VI -or- Predator + C-3PO + Gunner or- R2D2 , Millennium Falcon + Engine Upgrade
Bandit Squadron Pilot (3x) or Tala Squadron Pilot (3x)

Fairship Rebels
Biggs Darklighter + R4-D6 + Integrated Astromech
Jess Pava + R2-D6 + Integrated Astromech + Selflessness
Lowhhrick + Draw Their Fire + Breach Specialist
Captain Rex

Han Shoots First
Han Solo + Veteran Instincts
Rookie Pilot (2x)

HLC Firespray/Lambda
Bounty Hunter (3x)
Omicron Group Pilot + Heavy Laser Cannon

Imperial A-Holes
Omicron Group Pilot + Palptine
Wampa
Inquisitor
Omega Leader

Jonus Brothers
Captain Jonus
Scimitar Squadron Pilot (4x)

Kanan Biggs
Kanan Jarrus + Rey + Recon Specialist+ Fire-Control System + Twin Laser Turret + Ghost + Engine Upgrade
Zeb Orrelios + Phantom
Biggs Darklighter + R4-D6 + Integrated Astomech

Kanan's Pride
Kanan Jarrus + Rey + Finn + Fire-Control System + Twin Laser Turret + Ghost
Zeb Orrelios + Phantom
Biggs Darklighter + M9-G8 + Integrated Astomech

Kath + Krassis
Kath Scarlett
Krassis Trelix

Magic Carpet Ride
Kashyyyk Defender + Wookiee Commandos (4x)

Mynock Special
Whisper
Omega Leader
Omicron Group Pilot + Palpatine

NymRanda
Miranda + TLT + Harpoons + Extra Munitions + Bomblet Generator + Long-Range Scanners + Sabine Wren
Nym + Veteran Instincts + Twin Laser Turret + Harpoons +Extra Munitions + Havoc + Genius + Trajectory Simulator + Proton Bombs + Thermal Detonators + Long Range Scanners

ORS + Gold Squadron Pilot
Outer Rim Smugger
Gold Squadron Pilot + Ion Cannon Turret

Palp Aces (Usually OPG/Palp and two 30+ point aces)
Omicron Group Pilot + Palpatine
Glaive Squadron Pilot + TIE/x7 (x2)

OR

Omicron Group Pilot + Palpatine
Soontir Fel
Darth
Vader

OR

Omicron Group Pilot + Palpatine
Soontir Fel
Inquisitor

OR

Omicron Group Pilot + Palpatine
Quickdraw
Inquisitor

Paratanni (Winter 2016-Spring 2017)
Fenn Rau + Mindlink + Concord Dawn Protector + Autothrusters
Manaroo + Mindlink
Asajj Ventress + Mindlink + Latts Razzi

Party Bus
Bossk +
Zuckuss + 4-LOM + Dengar

OR the Fancy Bossk version:
Bossk + Mangler Cannon + Zuckuss + 4-LOM + Dengar

OR

Trandoshan Slaver + Z uckuss + 4-LOM + Dengar

Phantom and Mini Swarm
Whisper
Academy Pilot (5x)

Plot Armor
Dash + Lone Wolf + Rey + Heavy Laser Cannon + Outrider
Poe + Veteran Instincts + R2-D2 + Advanced Optics + Black One + Autothrusters

PTL Interceptors + Krassis
Saber Squadron Pilot + Push the Limit , (2x)
Krassis Trelix

PTL Interceptors
Saber Squadron Pilot + Push the Limit , (4x)

Roark + 3 Rebels
Roark Garnett
Rebel Operative (3x)

Sinister Six (2012-???)
6 named TIEs

Slaughterhouse Five
Howlrunner + Crackshot
Scourge + Crackshot
Youngster + Crackshot
Zeta Leader +Crackshot
Omega Leader + Juke + Comm Relay

TIE Swarm (8x) (2012-???)
TIE Academy Pilot s (8x)

TIE Swarm-- Howlrunner variant (2012-???)
Howlrunner
TIE Academy Pilot s (7x)

Trench Run Trio
Biggs
Wedge
Luke + R2-D2

Triple Deadeye Scouts
Contracted Scout + Deadeye/Atanni Mindlink + Plasma Torpedo + Guidance Chips + R4 Aggromech/Overclocked R4 (x3)

Triple Firesprays
Bounty Hunter (3x)

Vader , Sontir, Turr
Darth Vader
Soontir Fel
Turr Phennir

Edited by Force Majeure

Fat Han was big a while ago, not sure when exactly.

Usually Han with engine, C-3PO, R2crew, title(old)

Sometimes with a triple z-95 escort

At that same time was the Swarm, just academies with Howlrunner.

The BlackCrack TIE Swarm had a brief heyday after Wave VII introduced Crackshot to the game. There were a few variants, but my favorite was

Howlrunner with Crackshot

Black Squadron Pilot with Crackshot (x3)

Academy Pilot (x3)

The Wookiee’s (100)

•Wullffwarro (36) - Auzituck Gunship
Rage (1), "Chopper" (0), •Finn (5)

•Lowhhrick (34) - Auzituck Gunship
Expertise (4), Tactician (2)

Wookiee Liberator (30) - Auzituck Gunship
Draw Their Fire (1), "Zeb" Orrelios (1), Tactician (2)

Sept 2012 Wave 1: Core, X-Wing, Y-Wing, TIE Fighter, TIE Adv

  • Biggs, Wedge, 2 Rookies/Rookie+Gold/Luke/Garven
  • Garven+Dutch
  • 8 TIE swarm
  • "Sinister Six" 6 named TIEs

Feb 2013 Wave 2: YT-1300, A-Wing, TIE/IN, Firespray

  • Han Shoots First (VI Han + 2 Rookies)
  • Chewie + Lando
    • Expert Handling was common due to old barrel roll rules for large ships
  • Soontir, Turr, Vader
  • 4x PTL Interceptors
  • Triple Firesprays
  • 2x PTL Interceptor + Krassis
  • Kath+Krassis

Sept 2013 Wave 3: B-Wing, HWK, TIE Bomber, Lambda

  • "Blue Thunder" 2 HLC B-Wings, 2 Rookies
  • "Bloody Daggers" 2 Dagger Squadrons, 2 Red Squadrons
  • "Biggs walks the dogs" Biggs, Rookie, 2 Daggers Adv Sensors
  • 5-ship Rebels (BXXYY)(BBXYA)(BBBAA)
  • 4 Lambdas
  • Cpt Jonus + Bombers or HLC Firespray/Lambda

June 2014 Wave 4: Z-95, E-Wing, Defender, Phantom (Tantive+GR-75 released 2 months earlier)

  • Fat Han + 3 Z-95s
  • BBBBZ
  • Biggs walks the dogs 2.0 (Biggs, Corran
  • 2x ORS + 2 Golds w/ Ion
  • Roark + 3 Rebels
  • "Buzzsaw" Lambda (FCS+Gunner+Vader) and mini-swarm or Phantom
  • Phantom and mini swarm

Sept 2014 Wave 4.5: Rebel Aces

  • Panic Attack (3Bs+Tactician, Ion Gold)
  • SableGryphon Prox Mine Bombers (4 TIE Bombers w/ Prox mines, Lambda)
    • The FAQ changed the rules that now allow action bombs to detonate if they are dropped on a target.

Nov 2014 / Feb 2015 Wave 5 & Wave 6: YT-2400, Decimator, Most Wanted, Scyk, Starviper, IG-88

  • Chewie+Leebo
  • RAC Fel (Isard+Gunner+Rebel Captive)
  • Super Dash Regen Corran
  • Brobots

Aug 2015 Wave 6.5: Imperial Raider (Palpatine and TIE Adv X1 Title)

  • Palp Aces (Soontir and Carnor/Vader)
  • RAC Fel + Palp
  • 4x TIE Adv w/ Accuracy Corrector

Wave 7 brings us into the age of TLT and bombs as well as the TFA core set which I think is a good dividing line between two eras.

Most of this is from memory, but I was taking a break when wave 4 was released so had to go back and check some of Juggler's old threads.

Edited by Tvboy

@Fuzzywookie I'm not sure if that's the Wookiee archetype just yet. Not like 4 Wookie Gunboats has been or the Tactician Gunboats. Anyone care to comment?

Edited by Force Majeure
1 minute ago, Force Majeure said:

@Fuzzywookie I'm not sure if that's the Wookiee archetype just yet. Not like 4 Wookie Gunboats has been or the Tactician Gunboats. Anyone care to comment?

Sorry I was confused. It’s my archetype. Lol

How do you load these archetypes out?

NymRanda

DengarNym

Dengaroo

Fat Han

Party Bus

48 minutes ago, Force Majeure said:

How do you load these archetypes out?

NymRanda

DengarNym

Dengaroo

Fat Han

Party Bus

Are you asking how these archetypes were originally kitted out in their heyday, or how you'd kit them out now days?

How were they done in their day?

1 hour ago, Force Majeure said:

How do you load these archetypes out?

NymRanda - Miranda - TLT, Harpoons, Ex Munitions, Bomblet, Long-Range Scanners, Sabine. Nym - TLT, Harpoons, Ex Munitions, Havoc, Genius, Traj Simulator, Proton Bombs, Thermal Detonators, Long Range Scanners.

DengarNym

Dengaroo - Dengar - Lone Wolf, title, R5-P8, Zuckuss, Plasma Torps, Glitterstim, Countermeasures. Manaroo - PTL, Unhinged, Rec Spec, Engine.

Fat Han - Han Solo - VI-or-Predator, C-3PO, Gunner-or-R2D2, MF Title, Engine, 3 Z-95s in combination of Bandits or Talas.

Party Bus

You can also google them.

What list is "Ego" and why is it called that?

Mynock Special (Whisper, Omega Leader, PalpShuttle)

Plot Armor (Dash/Poe)

Paratani (Asajj, Fenn Rau, Manaroo)

3BQD (3 Harpoon GUNBOATS with Quickdraw)

Edited by Boba Rick

Anyone remember how to kit these out?:

Fantastic Beasts (also know as Grassholes I think)

Samsung Galaxy Note 7 (was that the name? 3 K-wings or something)

Party Bus was a YV-666 (usually Bossk?) loaded up with Zuckuss, 4-LOM and Dengar, supported by whatever, helped shut down PalpAces at the time.

The quintessential Palp Aces was Palpatine on an Omicron Group Pilot with Wampa, the Inquisitor and Omega Leader (although any two mixed Aces with Palp also used the name). I faced a LOT of Palp Aces at Yavin (June 2016).

Commonwealth Defenders was Palpatine/Omicron with Countess Ryad and Colonel Vessery. This pretty much replaced Palp Aces in Europe when Imperial Veterans arrived, and I faced a couple of these lists at Yavin (Feb 2017).

Edited by FTS Gecko

Kanan Biggs was also really big, the best two versions were Kalan's Pride (Kanan had finn + rey + for + TLT + title and Biggs had m9g8 and integrated, kanan was only used because of the same ps as Biggs, tons of damage, Kalan's ability is pretty much never used and m9g8 gives rerolls to kanan) and standard Kanan Biggs (Kanan had Recon + rey + EU + title + fcs + TLT, Biggs had r4d6, Kanan's ability used to help Biggs stay alive).

Triple Scouts was huge, 3 Jumpmasters with torpedoes and guidance chips (At first you had r4 agromech, so when you spent the focus to fire the top you gained a target lock which you used to modify that attack, then they changed the timing, and that didn't work anymore, so Overclocked R4 was used, you spent the focus, received a stress, got another focus and used that one to modify the attack, torpedoes of choice were usually plasma because of their price or one with proton + boba) there were several versions, at first either 3 with deadeye, or 2 with deadeye and a bumpmaster/party bus trandoshan. Then after the deadeye nerf, mindlink became the elite of choice, as well as coming back to use r4 agromech. The list only truly died after the jumpmaster nerf. You'll find a bunch of them in list juggler.

Hope this info is any useful.

Rebel convoy?

Some of the OPs "lists" arent legal, let alone meta. I assume its Typos or something but BBBAA for example is 106 points at minimum, no one could fly that outside a custom game.

Yea, I mean, weren't pre-nerf Phantoms a thing where people could just run 80-something points of Whisper/Echo and tell opponents to GFT?

3 minutes ago, Vontoothskie said:

BBBAA for example is 106 points

Naked BBBAA is 100 points

Blue Squadron Pilot (22)

Blue Squadron Pilot (22)

Blue Squadron Pilot (22)

Prototype Pilot (17)

Prototype Pilot (17)

Total: 100

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2 minutes ago, Force Majeure said:

Naked BBBAA is 100 points

Blue Squadron Pilot (22)

Blue Squadron Pilot (22)

Blue Squadron Pilot (22)

Prototype Pilot (17)

Prototype Pilot (17)

Total: 100

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Could take two Chadraan Refits and two FCS (not sure if that is an archetype staple or was Chadraan after?)

There are actually 2 different party busses: regular

Trandoshan Slaver/zuckuss/4-LOM/Dengar

And the fancy bossk version: Bossk/Manglercannon/Zuckuss/4-LOM/Dengar

On 2/20/2018 at 11:22 AM, Vontoothskie said:

Some of the OPs "lists" arent legal, let alone meta. I assume its Typos or something but BBBAA for example is 106 points at minimum, no one could fly that outside a custom game.

The meta for a while was sneaking illegal lists into events, that's why they call it "meta."

On 20/02/2018 at 5:11 PM, FTS Gecko said:

Party Bus was a YV-666 (usually Bossk?) loaded up with Zuckuss, 4-LOM and Dengar, supported by whatever, helped shut down PalpAces at the time.

The quintessential Palp Aces was Palpatine on an Omicron Group Pilot with Wampa, the Inquisitor and Omega Leader (although any two mixed Aces with Palp also used the name). I faced a LOT of Palp Aces at Yavin (June 2016).

Commonwealth Defenders was Palpatine/Omicron with Countess Ryad and Colonel Vessery. This pretty much replaced Palp Aces in Europe when Imperial Veterans arrived, and I faced a couple of these lists at Yavin (Feb 2017).

Palpshuttle+Wampa+Inquisitor+Omega Leader had it's own name: Imperial A-Holes. Palp Aces in my experience was usually two 30+ point aces back in the day (Soontir and Vader before the TAP came out, then Soontir and Inquisitor (purely because TAP can take autothrusters)). Nowadays tougher aces like Quickdraw are preferred toSoontir.

There was another Palp Aces variant, the Mynock Special if I remember rightly:

Lambda (piloted by Yorr) plus Whisper and Omega Leader (in their usual setups). Yorr can enable Whisper to k-turn without being left helpless by the stress and OL to k or sloop without interrupting her all-important action economy.