The Arrestor Cruiser

By Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun, in Star Wars: Armada

3 minutes ago, Crabbok said:

If it's a "cruiser" then it may end up being larger than a small ship. Could possibly be a medium ship... which I'd have little problem with. We still need the Carrion Spike to fill the role of a small ship too.

Well unless the size is ridiculously big when the Solo Visual Guide is released, or if they show scale in the film, FFG will probably make whatever will balance that wave's rebel ship.

Given the rebels have the Brahatok/Dornean Gunships are next to bat, what would best balance another rebel flotilla or small base vessel?

Actually if you take the rectangular holes between the dish and central hull, as hanger bays, the ship's minimum size is already known.

2 minutes ago, Crabbok said:

Right, and this one is a "Cruiser" - notice the lack of "Light", which is why I'm saying it could be Medium.

I mean.... shouldn't a CRUISER be heavier than a LIGHT CRUISER?

Interestingly the Interdictor is a Heavy Cruiser but because it has to house those gravity well projectors its armament is more in line with a Medium Cruiser.

And the Carrack is classified as a Light Cruiser but packs a stronger punch than its class would suggest.

4 minutes ago, Forresto said:

Actually if you take the rectangular holes between the dish and central hull, as hanger bays, the ship's minimum size is already known.

Sure, but that's still "small base", given the opening in the front of the Gladiator is apparently sufficient for launching anything it wants to - and we've seen on 'Rebels' that even the Arquitens-class can house three TIE Interceptors and/or TIE Defenders (and, heck, and/or a Sentinel-class shuttle) between its front 'prongs'. So we're looking those side slots potentially being as small as the distance between the Arquitens-class prongs? That still easily fits on a 'small' base (and that is, as you note, assuming they are still hangar bays in the new ship)

5 hours ago, elbmc1969 said:

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First concept art for opening scene, with stormtroopers making a jump to Leia's disintegrating ship. Note that everyone has a lightsaber, per very early concept art.

Interesting how those rebel fighters look like 'backwards' Naboo N-1's.. proof that George Lucas never threw anything away.

3 hours ago, Forresto said:

Well unless the size is ridiculously big when the Solo Visual Guide is released, or if they show scale in the film, FFG will probably make whatever will balance that wave's rebel ship.

Given the rebels have the Brahatok/Dornean Gunships are next to bat, what would best balance another rebel flotilla or small base vessel?

Easy - The Carrion Spike. It's a corvette (small), it's Imperial, and has something cool in the title, which should allow it to cloak. (I say the title, because in "Tarkin", it was special in that it had a cloaking device, hence similar ships wouldn't have the cloak.

The Arrestor can pair up with some Rebel Medium ship. Perhaps something from Legends, because at this point we aren't going to see another Rebel Medium Ship for awhile in canon. (I'm betting).

1 hour ago, Crabbok said:

Easy - The Carrion Spike. It's a corvette (small), it's Imperial, and has something cool in the title, which should allow it to cloak. (I say the title, because in "Tarkin", it was special in that it had a cloaking device, hence similar ships wouldn't have the cloak.

actually the Carrion Spike was a customized variant of the Republic's Stealth Ship , so all of the class would be able to cloak. it was special because the Republic, much less the Empire, never built more than a small number of such stealth corvettes.

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2 hours ago, Crabbok said:

Easy - The Carrion Spike. It's a corvette (small), it's Imperial, and has something cool in the title, which should allow it to cloak. (I say the title, because in "Tarkin", it was special in that it had a cloaking device, hence similar ships wouldn't have the cloak.

The Arrestor can pair up with some Rebel Medium ship. Perhaps something from Legends, because at this point we aren't going to see another Rebel Medium Ship for awhile in canon. (I'm betting).

We have a Canon, if unpopular, choice for a new Rebel medium. The wingless Liberty. When the Liberty arrived it was considered just on the edge of large ship territory, considering the size of the Interdictor. A wingless version would loose enough mass to fit comfortably in the upper end of medium.

2 minutes ago, GunNut said:

We have a Canon, if unpopular, choice for a new Rebel medium. The wingless Liberty. When the Liberty arrived it was considered just on the edge of large ship territory, considering the size of the Interdictor. A wingless version would loose enough mass to fit comfortably in the upper end of medium.

This is a total pet peeve of mine.

Initially I'd revert back to my "It's called the Home One" defense. We have enough MC-80s IMO, and even if there was another MC-80 on screen, I feel like that's supposed to be covered by the fact that not every MC-80 is made the same, so you've got multiple titles, shouldn't every single MC-80 look different?

Why do we need three completely different MC-80s, when every MC-80 was already different to begin with? Couldn't another title satisfy the need for some particular ship?

if you are going to do another Mon Cal ship, just use Legends material so you can bring in the MC40 or other such craft.

5 hours ago, Crabbok said:

The Arrestor can pair up with some Rebel Medium ship. Perhaps something from Legends, because at this point we aren't going to see another Rebel Medium Ship for awhile in canon. (I'm betting).

Bah, there are tons of Clone Wars-era ships that the Separatists flew and did not get destroyed, which would be available to show up in 'Rebel' colors for Armada. The VAST majority of them would fall well into the 'medium'-ship size ranges.

7 hours ago, xanderf said:

Bah, there are tons of Clone Wars-era ships that the Separatists flew and did not get destroyed, which would be available to show up in 'Rebel' colors for Armada. The VAST majority of them would fall well into the 'medium'-ship size ranges.

are you sure though? the Seperatist ships are a lot bigger than people realize.

the Munificent "star frigate" is 825m long, as big as a Victory Class Star Destroyer.

the Recusant class is between 1.2 and 2.5km long depending on the subtype, making it equal with the MC80/HomeOne,on the lower end, and an ISD on the upper.

The Providence class is 1.08 and 2.2km long depending on subtype, again making it equal with the MC80/HomeOne, on the lower end, and an ISD on the upper.

even the Separatist Supply ship is 908 meters long (and wider across)

pretty much everything else is either fighter or freighter sized.. or from obscure comics and videogames.

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6 hours ago, GunNut said:

We have a Canon, if unpopular, choice for a new Rebel medium. The wingless Liberty. When the Liberty arrived it was considered just on the edge of large ship territory, considering the size of the Interdictor. A wingless version would loose enough mass to fit comfortably in the upper end of medium.

Gods no, we have enough MC shops for the moment.

The Liberator class from the Rebellion PC game would be a fantastic addition to the game for a medium base.

I still think Mega-Maid is long overdue.

1 minute ago, Crabbok said:

I still think Mega-Maid is long overdue.

They're jamming us sir!

What flavor is it?

Raspberry, sir!

7 hours ago, mithril2098 said:

are you sure though? the Seperatist ships are a lot bigger than people realize.

the Munificent "star frigate" is 825m long, as big as a Victory Class Star Destroyer.

the Recusant class is between 1.2 and 2.5km long depending on the subtype, making it equal with the MC80/HomeOne,on the lower end, and an ISD on the upper.

The Providence class is 1.08 and 2.2km long depending on subtype, again making it equal with the MC80/HomeOne, on the lower end, and an ISD on the upper.

even the Separatist Supply ship is 908 meters long (and wider across)

The Munificant, maybe the Supply ship, and (due to how thin they are) the smaller versions of Rescusant and Providence, all qualify as "doable in Medium size"

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Given the name.... dishes are either NSA like listening devices... or more likely, high power, longer range, tractor beams

If the Empire needs a small ship, I humbly suggest either the IPV, Customs Corvette, or the Bayonet light cruiser.

12 hours ago, Crabbok said:

This is a total pet peeve of mine.

Initially I'd revert back to my "It's called the Home One" defense. We have enough MC-80s IMO, and even if there was another MC-80 on screen, I feel like that's supposed to be covered by the fact that not every MC-80 is made the same, so you've got multiple titles, shouldn't every single MC-80 look different?

Why do we need three completely different MC-80s, when every MC-80 was already different to begin with? Couldn't another title satisfy the need for some particular ship?

I actually want the Wingless Liberty to be saved for a second Home One Expansion that gets the Chimaera treatment. Now you actually do have different models for when running two Home Ones, get some new titles, and get some kind of access to something new. Like some odd black die brawler variant of the home one.

To get the wingless liberty all they need to do is make a new title for the mc80HO called “Liberty”. boom. Wingless liberty

Seems pretty easy to beat. Jam them!

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“Its mega-maid sir, shes gone from suck, to blow!”

1 hour ago, Church14 said:

I actually want the Wingless Liberty to be saved for a second Home One Expansion that gets the Chimaera treatment. Now you actually do have different models for when running two Home Ones, get some new titles, and get some kind of access to something new. Like some odd black die brawler variant of the home one.

Yea cause the Rebels need a heavy black dice brawler.

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opps my image slipped in.

Well Would like vigil class small one maybe with 3/2/2/1dice. Like a cr but more expendive and with fleet suport

31 minutes ago, TallGiraffe said:

Yea cause the Rebels need a heavy black dice brawler.

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opps my image slipped in.

I sense a bit of snark accompanying it. :lol: