Looking at the spread, I really cannot see U-Wing related cards, except for the pivot wing title. Even worse, there is only 2 new pilot cards. Sure there is a Saw crew card, but it can be used in any other Rebel crew carrier. There is only another card I cannot see (next to Crackshot) but it does not seem to say "U-Wing only" or something like that.

I really don't understand why FFG would give us a new U-wing just with 2 new pilots and nothing more.

Perhaps the U-Wing is more about the new pilots

The system slot upgrade seems to be their intended fix.

Alternatively, the Pivot Wing title may be getting an errata, and a reprint. Change the timing window, or a negative point cost as specific fixes. They've done this kinda thing before (ASLAM/Heavy Scyk).

Or, yes, it could be all about dem new pilots.

I think they messed up the spread, and there are two more pilots for the U-Wing (instead of 5 PS1 T-65s)

It’s really the xwing fix pack, disguised with a uwing attached for profit.

And I don’t even care. I’ll put that new uwing on the mat.

4 hours ago, Celestial Lizards said:

I think they messed up the spread, and there are two more pilots for the U-Wing (instead of 5 PS1 T-65s)

Yeah, that's definitely true - there are only enough tiles in the picture for 6 X-Wing pilots, yet we see 8 cards - while there are enough tiles for 4 U-Wing pilots, and only 2 cards shown. So 'pretty sure' the top two X-Wing pilots are more U-Wing pilots.

Still, a new pilot isn't exactly a "fix", to the OP's point. I do kinda think the new system slot makes sense, and it seems that Saw might work really well with certain types of ordnance (few Rebel crew carriers can also shoot torpedoes, but the U-Wing can - and, I mean, Saw + Advanced Proton Torpedoes? That's basically always going to be 3-4 crits and a hit or two...).

I don't think there's anything "wrong" with the U-Wing which needs fixing, just it needs more crew/system combos to be worth it because intrinsically they've got pretty good efficiency. But we don't know the full text of a lot of cards. Renegade Refit could be for both X-Wings and U-Wings.

It need at least one fix that he's not getting...

Not beeing a big base. Or a nerf of small base ship (sharing this half hp = half points rule)

There's a lot of small ships with better stats and other advantages
Arc 170, bwing, auzituc, k wing, scurrg, tie punisher, G1A, M12L and the new tie reaper...

They all have a small base and hp/agility similar to the Uwing, most of them also have 3 attack.


i don't see why i should loose when i let enemies at 1 hp but he don't kill more than half my uwing.

I am pretty sure the “Renegade Refit” is both X & U Wing. It is definitely T-65 X-Wing & something else.

3 minutes ago, Jadotch said:

Pretty sure the renegade refit is both X & U Wing.

Yup, just came in here to say this. Renegade Refit might very well be a torpedo slot that costs negative points and says T-65 X-Wing and U-Wing only . There's definitely more italicized text on that card than just X-Wing only , and if this card is a "Refit" in the same manner as Chaardan Refit, it'll fill a torp slot.

Otherwise, if that's a Modification or Title, yeah, no U-Wing fix and I'm sad.

50 minutes ago, Jadotch said:

I am pretty sure the “Renegade Refit” is both X & U Wing. It is definitely T-65 X-Wing & something else.

Yes, comparing the text to the S-Foils card, you may be right.

The torpedo slot is a good theory, lets hope it similar to the chardaan refit card (negative points, and it seems to be 2 mod cards)

I wouldn't mind if the Refit affected both X-wings and Y-wings, but restricted secondary weapon choices.

So, y'know, semi-naked Y-wings could still fly around without being automatically cheaper TLT carriers.

I guess we'll see, but I really hope any X-wing fix comes with enough cards to make the dang thing scale with just one or two packs...

Maybe -1 cost then? -2 means you could field 5 rookie x-wings with IA and FA astros. 30 health at 2 agility would be very good, especially when you factor in the 15-20 attack dice and ability to get the occasional free boost/barrel.

And yes I know you can field 5 k fighters currently, but even with vaksai title that's still not nearly as good as the above x-wing situation would be.

1 hour ago, Kieransi said:

Yup, just came in here to say this. Renegade Refit might very well be a torpedo slot that costs negative points and says T-65 X-Wing and U-Wing only . There's definitely more italicized text on that card than just X-Wing only , and if this card is a "Refit" in the same manner as Chaardan Refit, it'll fill a torp slot.

Otherwise, if that's a Modification or Title, yeah, no U-Wing fix and I'm sad.

If it's a negative-points torp slot fix for both the X and the U... man, we all oughtta spend a solid week ****posting that gif of the Citizen Kane guy clapping!

8 minutes ago, markcsoul said:

Maybe -1 cost then? -2 means you could field 5 rookie x-wings with IA and FA astros. 30 health at 2 agility would be very good, especially when you factor in the 15-20 attack dice and ability to get the occasional free boost/barrel.

And yes I know you can field 5 k fighters currently, but even with vaksai title that's still not nearly as good as the above x-wing situation would be.

There is 5 PS1 pilots included in this pack. So 1 PS is about 1 squad point. So 5 X-Wings are coming. Hopefully the renagade is minus -2, But -1 would work for me.

As noted, that may be an error - because there are 3 X-wing base inserts (3 unique, 3 generic) and 2 U-wing base inserts (2 unique and what the heck's on the back of them ). I suspect @xanderf is correct.

That said, 5 x X-wings wouldn't surprise me at all , but I hope they don't go over the top. 5 X-wings is already pretty good compared to other heavy swarmers, and 5 with flight assist and integrated astromech is really good. Throw in the S-foils card and it may be a little over the top.

Although I guess heavy swarmers have had their own power creep over the last year or so. Cartel Marauders now come packing Thread Tracers, Contraband Cybernetics, Munitions Failsafe and Guidance Chips for no points increase, so what do I know?

31 minutes ago, Magnus Grendel said:

That said, 5 x X-wings wouldn't surprise me at all , but I hope they don't go over the top

I hope they do go over the top. The X-Wing should be top tier and I say that as an Imperial player only. If nothing else it’ll stop the 40k players mocking us... “are there even X-Wings in X-Wing” etc. Hopefully FFG is now working on boosting use of all the classic ships, particularly the TIE Fighter. To be honest I thought they might have included a TIE Fighter with the Reaper for this purpose. But I suppose with have the Solo wave to look forward to.

5 hours ago, xanderf said:

there are only enough tiles in the picture for 6 X-Wing pilots, yet we see 8 cards - while there are enough tiles for 4 U-Wing pilots, and only 2 cards shown.

Weell.. technically there are 4 X-Wing tiles and 1 UWing tile. The large one on the base is an enlarged X-Wing. So we only know that they made at least one mistake, and very likely more than one.

1 minute ago, GreenDragoon said:

Weell.. technically there are 4 X-Wing tiles and 1 UWing tile. The large one on the base is an enlarged X-Wing. So we only know that they made at least one mistake, and very likely more than one.

Refresh your page - they already fixed the 'large' X-Wing tile. And you can almost make out the names on them, at least the overall shapes of the words - the two U-Wing pilots match the two exposed parts of the U-Wing tiles, meaning we don't know what is on their backs.

Just now, xanderf said:

Refresh your page - they already fixed the 'large' X-Wing tile. And you can almost make out the names on them, at least the overall shapes of the words - the two U-Wing pilots match the two exposed parts of the U-Wing tiles, meaning we don't know what is on their backs.

Huh, I stand corrected. You're right, it looks like Saw now.
I'm curious whether the two remaining U-Wing pilots are higher, lower, or one each in pilotskill. At least one should be generic, right? And K2SO might be 7 or 3-4, but we already have Heff at 3 and Bodhi at 4.

4 hours ago, Jadotch said:

I am pretty sure the “Renegade Refit” is both X & U Wing. It is definitely T-65 X-Wing & something else.

By the way: it's probably a title card, right? But "Title" has to be on the same line, so I'm not sure that it's both X and U Wing

4 hours ago, Kieransi said:

Yup, just came in here to say this. Renegade Refit might very well be a torpedo slot that costs negative points and says T-65 X-Wing and U-Wing only . There's definitely more italicized text on that card than just X-Wing only , and if this card is a "Refit" in the same manner as Chaardan Refit, it'll fill a torp slot.

Otherwise, if that's a Modification or Title, yeah, no U-Wing fix and I'm sad.

It can be T-65 X-Wing only. Title. unfortunatly.

4 hours ago, Kieransi said:

Yup, just came in here to say this. Renegade Refit might very well be a torpedo slot that costs negative points and says T-65 X-Wing and U-Wing only . There's definitely more italicized text on that card than just X-Wing only , and if this card is a "Refit" in the same manner as Chaardan Refit, it'll fill a torp slot.

Otherwise, if that's a Modification or Title, yeah, no U-Wing fix and I'm sad.

It can't be a Modification. S-foils are Modification, so it would be unreasonable of FFG to make us choose between a straight-forward fix and better manouverability/survivability.

I think.

15 minutes ago, GreenDragoon said:

Huh, I stand corrected. You're right, it looks like Saw now.
I'm curious whether the two remaining U-Wing pilots are higher, lower, or one each in pilotskill. At least one should be generic, right? And K2SO might be 7 or 3-4, but we already have Heff at 3 and Bodhi at 4.

No harm, no foul - any given time FFG does a new article release, they usually screw several things up. Most get corrected reasonably quickly from monitoring the forums, some take a bit longer, but it's not surprising to see the uploaded images revised once or twice in the first day of a new article. Refresh is your friend!

1 hour ago, Sasajak said:

If nothing else it’ll stop the 40k players mocking us...

Nothing will stop the 40k players mocking us, so you just have to mock them right back. “New edition next month?”