Just now, Darth evil said:

5 points for 1 hit when you might roll a blank just doesn't seem worth it

Plus an extra shield.

7 minutes ago, Darth evil said:

5 points for 1 hit when you might roll a blank just doesn't seem worth it

You get a shield, too. Rolling a blank is actually good here! If you don’t roll blanks you’re fine anyway, but as I mentioned above there are some cases where you’ll want to use it as an auto hit.

After thinking about it a bit more, Pure Sabacc seems like one of the likelier candidates for Optimized Prototype to be pretty strong on. Another hit before you lose the ability, plus he has no target locks to spend.

14 minutes ago, GreenDragoon said:

You're right because there is probably a better choice. But I don't think it's really bad on a gunboat. At least mine shoots primaries every now and then. If the other ship has reliably mods however then it might be worth it. If you take Krennic for some reason...

That's pretty awesome. So a typical Vader roll has 1 hit+1 crit + 1focus/blank. Now you cancel the focus/blank to deal 1 shield trying to push your crit through, and keep your focus for defense? Sign me in

I also like it on Omega Leader. Nevermind dangit. Wampa then.

technically if the opponent has shields you should just spend any result you got even if you had no misses/unused focuses.

Why? Evade dice. Regardless of how amazing their defense dice or token stacks were, they lost a shield.

The fact that this is limited to shields is the only reason it wont be considered OP as balls. Only a handful of ships have less hull than shields

edit: Omega Leader is a FO ship, he cant use the condition as its the Galactic Empire only (not First Order)

4 minutes ago, nexttwelveexits said:

After thinking about it a bit more, Pure Sabacc seems like one of the likelier candidates for Optimized Prototype to be pretty strong on. Another hit before you lose the ability, plus he has no target locks to spend.

Tie strikers in general. I could see fielding this on countdown as well.

I also wonder if the baron had two shields he could make a return.

8 minutes ago, Vineheart01 said:

technically if the opponent has shields you should just spend any result you got even if you had no misses/unused focuses.

Why? Evade dice. Regardless of how amazing their defense dice or token stacks were, they lost a shield.

The fact that this is limited to shields is the only reason it wont be considered OP as balls. Only a handful of ships have less hull than shields

this. Empire has a lot of ships that can't reroll well, might as well plink damage through. Soontir with 1 extra shield and a way to deal damage if he whiffs? The shield limitation might be enough to keep it in check.

All of many months of practice with Vader, Sabacc, Countdown, Tie Bombers, and more recently Inquisitor are about to pay off big time.

Except....Palpatine is still probably just better?

Nah...this is awesome im stoked.

oh heres another goodie.

Phantom with Gunner. First attack whiffs, spend a die remove a shield - the attack missed - Gunner attack again. Cant krennic again, but its still a 4die attack +1 shield

2 minutes ago, Vineheart01 said:

oh heres another goodie.

Phantom with Gunner. First attack whiffs, spend a die remove a shield - the attack missed - Gunner attack again. Cant krennic again, but its still a 4die attack +1 shield

Can't you also just put Krennic on Whisper with a Palp reaper nearby? Its not good but could be fun.

1 minute ago, Vineheart01 said:

oh heres another goodie.

Phantom with Gunner. First attack whiffs, spend a die remove a shield - the attack missed - Gunner attack again. Cant krennic again, but its still a 4die attack +1 shield

The return of the Buzzsaw? I'd love to see that.

Yeah you can put Krennic on Whisper and in general thats probably the better way to go but the only other imp ships that could take krennic's condition and gunner are really not a wise pick (tie shuttle and reaper...one is a 2die attack and one is just as bad as the Wookie ship in terms of offense w/o the reinforce or 180 arc)

3 minutes ago, jagsba said:

this. Empire has a lot of ships that can't reroll well, might as well plink damage through. Soontir with 1 extra shield and a way to deal damage if he whiffs? The shield limitation might be enough to keep it in check.

On, snap, I didn't even think about Soontir. Slight improvement on damage output, as well as an extra shield? That's not bad! Heck, he only ever really gets one damage through, anyway, so just don't bother modifying your attack dice - roll whatever, save your tokens for defense, plink a shield. It might just be enough to consider playing him, again!

Man, I really hope the rest of that condition card is blank - basically any kind of downside to this is going to render it much less useful...

1 minute ago, Vineheart01 said:

Yeah you can put Krennic on Whisper and in general thats probably the better way to go but the only other imp ships that could take krennic's condition and gunner are really not a wise pick (tie shuttle and reaper...one is a 2die attack and one is just as bad as the Wookie ship in terms of offense w/o the reinforce or 180 arc)

"Whisper" (32)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Fire-Control System (2)
Gunner (5)
Advanced Cloaking Device (4)

Rear Admiral Chiraneau (46)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Krennic (5)
Engine Upgrade (4)

Total: 100

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4 minutes ago, Vineheart01 said:

oh heres another goodie.

Phantom with Gunner. First attack whiffs, spend a die remove a shield - the attack missed - Gunner attack again. Cant krennic again, but its still a 4die attack +1 shield

Plus FCS, so on that second attack you can reroll those pesky blanks you're not allowed to spend anymore? Yes please.

1 minute ago, HolySorcerer said:

"Whisper" (32)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Fire-Control System (2)
Gunner (5)
Advanced Cloaking Device (4)

Rear Admiral Chiraneau (46)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Krennic (5)
Engine Upgrade (4)

Total: 100

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but palp...

1 minute ago, Boom Owl said:

but palp...

If you drop engine and RAC you can fit it.

"Whisper" (32)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Fire-Control System (2)
Gunner (5)
Advanced Cloaking Device (4)

Captain Oicunn (42)
Krennic (5)
Emperor Palpatine (8)

Total: 99

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2 minutes ago, HolySorcerer said:

If you drop engine and RAC you can fit it.

Heresy. RAC without Engine Upgrade is like a Ghost without TLT.

It's like Plasma Torpedoes in a way.

It's nice that it's a single die result, and not that you have to cancel all your results to clear the shield. So you roll blank, hit, hit and you cancel the blank to clear a shield and then your final result is two hits.

12 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:

All of many months of practice with Vader, Sabacc, Countdown, Tie Bombers, and more recently Inquisitor are about to pay off big time.

Except....Palpatine is still probably just better?

Nah...this is awesome im stoked.

Double reapers + ace? Sort of like OP^3? (One for palps, one for Krennic)

tbh i dont like palp. He was essential for Soontir because the fricker was made of paper. Outside soontir i dont care for him.

And somehow i doubt having 2 reapers is a wise idea. The ship isnt bad but its never going to fire any modified dice unless its actually in a spot where it has a shot and nobody can fire back (focus instead of evade).

I'd rather find a way to go Reaper + 2Ace or Ace+MiniAce if points dont work.

Just now, FlyingAnchors said:

Double reapers + ace? Sort of like OP^3? (One for palps, one for Krennic)

Don't forget to make room for Kylo!

4 minutes ago, Vineheart01 said:

tbh i dont like palp. He was essential for Soontir because the fricker was made of paper. Outside soontir i dont care for him.

And somehow i doubt having 2 reapers is a wise idea. The ship isnt bad but its never going to fire any modified dice unless its actually in a spot where it has a shot and nobody can fire back (focus instead of evade).

I'd rather find a way to go Reaper + 2Ace or Ace+MiniAce if points dont work.

Inky is always a solid pocket ace. I’m sure there’s multiple ways to make the list work.

1 hour ago, ficklegreendice said:

Krennic as is kinda, imo, exceedingly "bleh". Even as much as I love ignoring dice, that last line will make or break him

He will just add engine boost on top to that ship. ;-)

I think Krennic should have been four points. Reminds me of Chewbacca, he gives you two shields for 4 points.