Anyone else notice that in the preview article for Wave 14, the picture of the Saw's Renegades box has an X-Wing with the s-foils closed but they're open in the other pics? It has moveable s-foils, which is super cool and makes me wish FFG had ight of this with the original X-Wing design. It'll be a great visual reminder for which side that new dual card s-foil modification is showing during gameplay.

Maybe .

Consider how they would have to pivot for that to work, though - unless they manage some kind of 'geared' system (which, so far, they haven't done with any of their models that have moving wings), it'll be tricky to not have the 'upper' wings drooping over time, nor indeed for the wings to really line up in the middle easily. Not impossible , mind, just...difficult. I mean, nobody thought the TIE Striker would have moving wings when it was announced, so...

On the other hand, though...

...it's equally possible FFG had initially planned to do a new 'closed-s-foil' model of the T-65 for this expansion. No moving parts, just a new closed-wing mold. And the box CGI shot is from that conceptual stage. Ultimately, they could have then dropped that idea in favor of just re-painting the existing T-65, for the production version, which is what we see in the 'card fan' and 'standalone' shots of the model.

If they have done this.... and actually pulled it off.... it'll mean I'm buying like at LEAST 4 of these packs to replace ALL of my old X-Wing models! Holy Crap!

It's actually quite easy to make. It's 2 wings, each being the upper on one side of the ship and the lower on the other, crossing in the middle with a peg through the connector. If done that way, the wings more or less balance themselves, since both sides wanting to droop just reaches whatever equilibrium you put it into.

2 hours ago, drjkel said:

It's actually quite easy to make. It's 2 wings, each being the upper on one side of the ship and the lower on the other, crossing in the middle with a peg through the connector. If done that way, the wings more or less balance themselves, since both sides wanting to droop just reaches whatever equilibrium you put it into.

From an engineering standpoint, sure - but FFG hasn't done anything near that complex with their 'moving wings' ships, to date. So...I dunno. IMHO, most likely explanation is just an early render of a design they didn't go with. But, heck, we've been surprised before (the aforementioned TIE Striker)

Look at the box packaging. That X-wing's wings are closed.

I'll be happy just having a new sculpt or at least new plastic. The wave 1 ships are markedly lower quality miniatures. Thee y-wings especially are just awful compared to say the Tie Aggressor in terms of detail.

Buying two boxes so I can fly five. Will have six Xwings and six titles so one of the Xwings will go on eBay with all the fixings and hopefully offset the cost of the box.

3 minutes ago, gamblertuba said:

I'll be happy just having a new sculpt or at least new plastic. The wave 1 ships are markedly lower quality miniatures. Thee y-wings especially are just awful compared to say the Tie Aggressor in terms of detail.

Totally right, if u compare the tie fighters from core set with the ones in the gozanti u see a difrence too.

Look at the art on the pilot skill 1 x-wing. The s-foils are closed!!!!!

Hey, There are some ships that would like to have a few words with FFG devs?

Honestly I think S-foils should have been an action not a dual side upgrade. But again that would require 2.0.

8 hours ago, Rexler Brath said:

Look at the art on the pilot skill 1 x-wing. The s-foils are closed!!!!!

We get 5 PS1 Zealot pilots in the box, but there is only 4 s-foil cards. This makes me believe the S-foil card comes with a price. You can either run 5 zealots, represented with closed wings, because if you go full zealot squadron, you wont have the points for the S-foil upgrade (they will probably be 20pts each) or you can run 4 x-wings and have points for the S-foils. If this is not the case, it would be an extremely douchy move to not include 5 s-foil cards in the expansion.

8 minutes ago, Dwing said:

We get 5 PS1 Zealot pilots in the box, but there is only 4 s-foil cards. This makes me believe the S-foil card comes with a price. You can either run 5 zealots, represented with closed wings, because if you go full zealot squadron, you wont have the points for the S-foil upgrade (they will probably be 20pts each) or you can run 4 x-wings and have points for the S-foils. If this is not the case, it would be an extremely douchy move to not include 5 s-foil cards in the expansion.

Two of the cards are probably U-Wing pilots and they messed up. Only 3 cardboard bases.

7 minutes ago, Tbetts94 said:

Two of the cards are probably U-Wing pilots and they messed up. Only 3 cardboard bases.

Ahh, good point. Hmm so the Zealots will probably still be 20 pts or less, ut you would need to but to expansions to run a full squad of 5. Now that seems like FFG buisness to me ;)! So we could still get K-2SO as a U-wing pilot, here is to hopeing.

15 hours ago, drjkel said:

It's actually quite easy to make. It's 2 wings, each being the upper on one side of the ship and the lower on the other, crossing in the middle with a peg through the connector. If done that way, the wings more or less balance themselves, since both sides wanting to droop just reaches whatever equilibrium you put it into.

That design wouldn't be able to close them. You could fold the 'Open' and 'Wide Open' but you could never close them.

25 minutes ago, Tbetts94 said:

Two of the cards are probably U-Wing pilots and they messed up. Only 3 cardboard bases.

More like, two of them are U Wing pilots for which either the design isn't finalised, or they don't want to spoil yet.

I'd bank on the latter. Probably K2-SO and an elite generic, unless I miss my guess.

19 minutes ago, Hannes Solo said:

That design wouldn't be able to close them. You could fold the 'Open' and 'Wide Open' but you could never close them.

Sure you could, easily. Here's a crude drawing, imagine that the wings can be thickened to close the gap as needed:

1 hour ago, drjkel said:

Sure you could, easily. Here's a crude drawing, imagine that the wings can be thickened to close the gap as needed:

Now I see.

See, that type of thing is risky. Over time, there's gonna be mold degradation and pieces that fit looser and looser. Basically, if these wings DO fold, grab the amount you want immediately. The second release should be okay, but after that? Floppy wings everywhere.

2 hours ago, Hannes Solo said:

That design wouldn't be able to close them. You could fold the 'Open' and 'Wide Open' but you could never close them.

1 hour ago, drjkel said:

Sure you could, easily. Here's a crude drawing, imagine that the wings can be thickened to close the gap as needed:

That's exactly how the articulated Lego design of the S-foils works.

I don't even play competitively any more, but I could see myself picking up a couple packs for the models alone.

5 hours ago, Dwing said:

We get 5 PS1 Zealot pilots in the box, but there is only 4 s-foil cards. This makes me believe the S-foil card comes with a price. You can either run 5 zealots, represented with closed wings, because if you go full zealot squadron, you wont have the points for the S-foil upgrade (they will probably be 20pts each) or you can run 4 x-wings and have points for the S-foils. If this is not the case, it would be an extremely douchy move to not include 5 s-foil cards in the expansion.

Heh. Zealots are too dumb to open their s-foils...

I'm not 100% convinced that the model will have articulated wings - I'd love it if it did, but it seems like it would be a VERY delicate thing to get right without having issues wearing down.

But if they DO open and close, I sure hope there's an articulated X-Wing in a more traditional Rebellion color scheme coming down the pipe right behind it, because I'm just terrible at painting...

58 minutes ago, Koing907 said:

Heh. Zealots are too dumb to open their s-foils...

But still, always in attack formation!!!

Is it bad I already ordered 3?

5 minutes ago, Wiredin said:

Is it bad I already ordered 3?

If that means that you didn't already own at least three X-Wings and two U-Wings, yes that's bad.

If it's just because the models are cool, no, not bad at all. I bought my sixth TIE Interceptor just for the model, because I never get a chance to play Epic.