Aces of the Empire

By casperionx, in X-Wing Squad Lists

Im considering a list that is a bit of a modification on the usual Emps Aces (howards aces) list, by substituting the Palp Bus with Darth Vader.

Do you think this will still work in the ghost meta, or will it get smashed? I am considering swapping cruise missiles off darth for auto thrusters or engine upgrade to really make him hard to predict, or alternatively take advanced sensors instead of advanced targeting computer.

"Aces of the Empire": 99 Points

Tie Advanced w/ Darth Vader + Veteran Instincts + Tie/x1 title + Advanced Targeting Computer + Cruise Missiles

Tie Advanced Prototype w/ The Inquisitor + Push the Limit + Tie/V1 Title + Auto Thrusters

Tie/SF Fighter w/ Quickdraw + Veteran Instincts + Special Ops Training Title + Lightweight Frame

The alternate would be to drop cruise missiles and take Auto thrusters on Darth to give me a 2 point initiative bid. Advanced sensors on darth would lower his damage potential, but open up his maneuverability but that would only really work if you took engine upgrade to gain boost, but that would severely limit his offensive potential.

What do you all think? Does it make sense, would it work with out the palp bus?

7 hours ago, casperionx said:

The alternate would be to drop cruise missiles and take Auto thrusters on Darth to give me a 2 point initiative bid.

Can't take AutoThrusters on the Sith Lord. People will say you can't fly him without Engine, but I would disagree.

Using his two actions on barrel and tokens has been fine for his positioning in my opinion.

I think three aces can be good without palp, but with lists like Nym Mirranda you would have to be very careful with positioning.

For me, the quickdraw build doesn't have enough, but I like Optics and an EPT other than VI. I get the VI part though, especially if you are going to carry ordinance.

If you shave a couple points off of inqy, you can add stuff to QD or Vader.

One version would be to pick up Vessery.

Darth Vader — TIE Advanced 29
Veteran Instincts 1
Advanced Targeting Computer 1
TIE/x1 0
Ship Total: 31
"Quickdraw" — TIE/sf Fighter 29
Veteran Instincts 1
Fire-Control System 2
Primed Thrusters 1
Lightweight Frame 2
Special Ops Training 0
Ship Total: 35
Colonel Vessery — TIE Defender 35
Veteran Instincts 1
TIE/x7 -2
Ship Total: 34

Or drop to Duchess and load them up even more.

Darth Vader — TIE Advanced 29
Veteran Instincts 1
Cluster Missiles 4
Advanced Targeting Computer 1
Engine Upgrade 4
TIE/x1 0
Ship Total: 39
"Quickdraw" — TIE/sf Fighter 29
Veteran Instincts 1
Fire-Control System 2
Advanced Optics 2
Lightweight Frame 2
Special Ops Training 0
Ship Total: 36
"Duchess" — TIE Striker 23
Veteran Instincts 1
Adaptive Ailerons 0
Ship Total: 24

I get the feeling that the inquisitor is a stronger choice than Darthy sadly :S

Disagree, Vader is really strong. I think Triples aces can be good, and here's my take:

Vader

VI

Title

ATC

EU

QD

Expertise

Title

FCS

LWF

Pattern Analyzer

Omega Leader

Juke

Comm Relay

I've flown against it - it is hard to fly, but also presents a challenge to defeat.