1 minute ago, FlyingAnchors said:

TBH op specialist out of imp vets should have given the empire a coordinate crew card.

TBH. Empire needs to stop being so gimped in design.

And Rebels need to stop getting more synergy options. Like... do they even play test Rebel ships? Wdf. Reinforce Wookkies? Sheathipede wdf? Ghost wdf? Nym TS + Genius?

8 hours ago, Wookiee_Slayer said:

So is the TIE Reaper confirmed? Or is it ''Pretty much certain because it appeared in a movie once''?

40 minutes ago, Wookiee_Slayer said:

Yes but this is not a TIE Reaper: It is a Sentinel-class Landing Craft

This is a TIE Reaper:

PS. the names are links: click them to learn more about the respective craft...

Thanks for the info. I found it all little too salty for my tastes, however, so I'm going to sent it back to the kitchen.

My point what that there is another large-based shuttle that has appeared in Star Wars media that would make the Reaper "Pretty much NOT certain because it (the Sentinel) appeared in a cartoon MORE THAN once."

39 minutes ago, GrimmyV said:

Clicked link, puked.

Altho Juno deserves a second chance.

Ditto on both accounts.

39 minutes ago, Indy_com said:

At least its not another TIE...

I'll take another TIE

33 minutes ago, GrimmyV said:

I dunno, it’s basicslly a huge mutated TIE, like the Silencer and Infiltrator had a baby and beat it every day.

It looks like a huge, mutated, broken can-opener to me. . .

1 hour ago, beardxofxdeath said:

A large ship for the empire that is NO shuttle,

The Empire is shuttles and TIEs. If you can't handle it, you're in the wrong faction.

The whole conversation is moot anyways. We're stuck with movie releases this year to go with Solo and IX. This is the next Imperial ship:

4 minutes ago, Darth Meanie said:

The whole conversation is moot anyways. We're stuck with movie releases this year to go with Solo and IX. This is the next Imperial ship:

We've had multiple ships per faction in a wave before...

This looks more like a TIE Fighter title to me, perhaps requiring that the ship not have TL to keep it on the /ln. although a new TIE is always welcome, at least by me, no matter how bumpy or warty. Yes even the Punisher.

5 minutes ago, Indy_com said:

We've had multiple ships per faction in a wave before...

Fair enough.

2 minutes ago, GrimmyV said:

This looks more like a TIE Fighter title to me, perhaps requiring that the ship not have TL to keep it on the /ln. although a new TIE is always welcome, at least by me, no matter how bumpy or warty. Yes even the Punisher.

No way!! That's a totally new chassis!! (IMHO. . . )

Maybe we get a TIE/ln -esque fighter with 3 Attack. But I'm betting it will be a new model. Unless there is a better Imperial movie tie-in (TIE/in?) wer haven't seen yet.

8 hours ago, Celestial Lizards said:

That was what they did when designing the Jumpmaster.

I'm pretty sure the design conversation on the Jumpmaster was:

"Nobody runs generic large-base ships for nothing, because they suck, even though turrets are pretty key. Even the Lambda only works because you can get mad synergy on those upgrades and it still can't turn around. How do we make a large ship you want to run at every level?"

"We'll do a reverse ORS. Keep the base cost low, give it all it's bonus greebles from Punishing One by default, keep those sick maneuvers but unbalance it slightly. And for extras we'll give them all EPTs so you don't need to upgrade from generics for anything if you don't want to!"

And the plan worked TOO WELL.

9 minutes ago, Indy_com said:

We've had multiple ships per faction in a wave before...

The first 4 waves in particular. Not to mention Scum-a-paluza between 6 and whenever they stopped doubling up.

It should be noted "balance" in terms of capability has always been a huge problem for game designers (on point of the actual topic). The central imperial design space is pretty limited to a couple of layers of Mass Production TIEs (LNs to INs over time, /sa for surface assaults) and then a variety of prototype wonder-fighters which may or may not end up mostly blown up by the time the movie/game/tv show is over. Rebels, being more patchwork, are constantly rotating through a handful of fighter models based on particular missions and availability, and any time you need to transport more than a couple people for a story, everybody needs their own unique up-gunned spacetruck. Because heroes get unique ships. And REALLY badass villains get their own unique ships.

The TIE Aggressor literally only exists because SWG needed to give Imperial players a turreted ship like the Y-Wing. Same reason why the Decimator exists, to be the evil falcon.

I'll have the Blastboat please, with a side of Thrawn.

17 minutes ago, UnitOmega said:

The TIE Aggressor literally only exists because SWG needed to give Imperial players a turreted ship like the Y-Wing. Same reason why the Decimator exists, to be the evil falcon.

Well, I’m glad they exist. I can’t imagine how the Imps would look without the Decimator.

56 minutes ago, GrimmyV said:

The first 4 waves in particular. Not to mention Scum-a-paluza between 6 and whenever they stopped doubling up.

Well, that was "not the same game," in that they didn't have a 3rd faction yet. I dare say the new "norm" is 3 ships, 1 per faction. The last drop doesn't count either, since it was "technically" 2 waves.

What would be nice to see is 4-ship waves, with the 4th ship being either cross faction or some oddball thing.

49 minutes ago, UnitOmega said:

It should be noted "balance" in terms of capability has always been a huge problem for game designers (on point of the actual topic). The central imperial design space is pretty limited to a couple of layers of Mass Production TIEs (LNs to INs over time, /sa for surface assaults) and then a variety of prototype wonder-fighters which may or may not end up mostly blown up by the time the movie/game/tv show is over. Rebels, being more patchwork, are constantly rotating through a handful of fighter models based on particular missions and availability, and any time you need to transport more than a couple people for a story, everybody needs their own unique up-gunned spacetruck. Because heroes get unique ships. And REALLY badass villains get their own unique ships.

The TIE Aggressor literally only exists because SWG needed to give Imperial players a turreted ship like the Y-Wing. Same reason why the Decimator exists, to be the evil falcon.

But those could be the "interesting" ships for the Empire.

Eh, I'm pretty dang happy with what's in my Imperial toybox. A TIE with bullseye arc would be cool, I'd really like more large base options (and have nothing against shuttles), so Reaper and Sentinel would be great. But as long as we are spitballing. . .

38 minutes ago, RebelRogue said:

I'll have the Blastboat please, with a side of Thrawn.

Oh, so much this.

And more named officers.

This is the large ship the Imperials need:

(these are lore-based stats, but, to make it cheaper, shield and/or hull could be decreased)

3 hours ago, Darth Meanie said:

But those could be the "interesting" ships for the Empire.

You have most of them, barring specifically some of the weird TIE Experimentals (most of which would have pretty niche designs anyway, or could be accounted for with Titles to other TIEs) which was kind of my point. Remaining TIE ships tend to fall into that "faction balance" category, and while I think they have interesting designs (TIE Hunter plz) the Imperials do have kind of a focused design ethos. Weird specialist craft are limited, and very few Imperial ships were designed as generalists.

4 hours ago, GrimmyV said:

Well, I’m glad they exist. I can’t imagine how the Imps would look without the Decimator.

I don't really mean to speak ill of them, I'm just putting the thought out there; the idea of matching Rebel designs ship for ship has always kind of plagued game designers.

The blastboat is a classic Legends ship, in the appropriate niche, the more telling issue is that, much like the Gauntlet, is not treated as an exclusively Imperial vessel. In the Thrawn Trilogy they're also used by smugglers as security ships, and are a unit used by the Zann Consortium in EAW. So it would not necessarily be a ship exclusive to the Empire, and thus will not stop imperial players from complaining they don't get anything all their own.

They should have just given the Lambda it's rear Aux arc though. Imperials would then be the faction with the most rear arc ships.

8 hours ago, Darth Meanie said:

This might have showed up in Rebels a few gazillion times:

I want the Sentinel with Thrawn crew.

5 hours ago, Darth Meanie said:

Ditto on both accounts.

I'll take another TIE

It looks like a huge, mutated, broken can-opener to me. . .

The Empire is shuttles and TIEs. If you can't handle it, you're in the wrong faction.

The whole conversation is moot anyways. We're stuck with movie releases this year to go with Solo and IX. This is the next Imperial ship:

I’ll take this...thing.

30 minutes ago, Odanan said:

This is the large ship the Imperials need:

(these are lore-based stats, but, to make it cheaper, shield and/or hull could be decreased)

I’ll also have an Imp/Scum Blastboat to offset the Rebel/Scum Scurrrrrrrrrrg

28 minutes ago, weisguy119 said:

I’ll also have an Imp/Scum Blastboat to offset the Rebel/Scum Scurrrrrrrrrrg

Throw in Mara Jade pilot for both factions and some sort of Talon Karrde inclusion and you got yourself a deal!

14 minutes ago, SabineKey said:

Throw in Mara Jade pilot for both factions and some sort of Talon Karrde inclusion and you got yourself a deal!

Mrs. Mara Jade-Skywalker should be Rebel.

But yeah, I'll take a mixed faction Blastboat. Learning to share is an important life lesson.

5 minutes ago, Darth Meanie said:

Mrs. Mara Jade-Skywalker should be Rebel.

But yeah, I'll take a mixed faction Blastboat. Learning to share is an important life lesson.

True, but she did work for Talon Karrde for awhile, which gives her a clear link to Scum. Besides, while I'm all for Mara Jade being a tri-faction character, I don't think the Blastboat works as a Rebel ship. Hopefully we'll see Rebel Mara in another expansion.

15 hours ago, thespaceinvader said:

I'll take it. I'd love a Lambda that was actually worth flying without Palp.

You'd be surprised how good Doom Shuttles still are (OGP with Vader crew, courier droid and collision detector). It's likely shooting last in your list and guarantees a critical hit. Ordnance makes it tricky to use in today's meta but it is a cheap way to draw fire away from other things in your squad and soak up a few missiles. The best part is you don't have to worry about turning around after the initial engagement because you will likely be dead from Vadering people.

6 hours ago, Darth Meanie said:

Fair enough.

No way!! That's a totally new chassis!! (IMHO. . . )

Maybe we get a TIE/ln -esque fighter with 3 Attack. But I'm betting it will be a new model. Unless there is a better Imperial movie tie-in (TIE/in?) wer haven't seen yet.

I'm thinking a TIE fighter with 4 hull and a cannon slot. Imperials down't have a dirt cheap cannon carrier like the scyck.

45 minutes ago, SabineKey said:

True, but she did work for Talon Karrde for awhile, which gives her a clear link to Scum. Besides, while I'm all for Mara Jade being a tri-faction character, I don't think the Blastboat works as a Rebel ship. Hopefully we'll see Rebel Mara in another expansion.

Yep. The Luxury 2000 with Lando, Hondo, and Azzmorigan.

6 minutes ago, Darth Meanie said:

Yep. The Luxury 2000 with Lando, Hondo, and Azzmorigan.

I'm for it.

16 hours ago, GrimmyV said:

This looks more like a TIE Fighter title to me, perhaps requiring that the ship not have TL to keep it on the /ln. although a new TIE is always welcome, at least by me, no matter how bumpy or warty. Yes even the Punisher.

I think this is gonna be the TIE Turbolaser... Probably just a TIE/ln + double cannon slots and a Bullseye-arc