Sato in the Corellian Conflict All-Out Assault

By Ardaedhel, in Star Wars: Armada Rules Questions

Did we ever settle on a consensus of whether friendly squadrons proc Sato's ability in the AOO? I know I've always played that they did, but now that I'm the guy playing him I'm second-guessing that ruling.

The only thread I found on it was this one where @Drasnighta told @tvboy why he thought the answer was "probably no, but ambiguous." I thought it had been discussed much more than that, but some moderate Google-fu isn't turning anything up.

Edited by Ardaedhel
11 minutes ago, Ardaedhel said:

Did we ever settle on a consensus of whether friendly squadrons proc Sato's ability in the AOO? I know I've always played that they did, but now that I'm the guy playing him I'm second-guessing that ruling.

The only thread I found on it was this one where @Drasnighta told @tvboy why he thought the answer was "probably no, but ambiguous." I thought it had been discussed much more than that, but some moderate Google-fu isn't turning anything up.

Wasnt this faq'd in the latest faq?

7 minutes ago, Ginkapo said:

Wasnt this faq'd in the latest faq?

Uuuuhhhhh... No? Unless I'm just not seeing it. Dodonna was, but that line doesn't apply to Sato...

4 minutes ago, Ardaedhel said:

Uuuuhhhhh... No? Unless I'm just not seeing it. Dodonna was, but that line doesn't apply to Sato...

But it does remind me of the answer. No the allied squadron cannot trigger sato just as Konstantine cant trigger of allied medium ships. They are allied not friendly

2 minutes ago, Ginkapo said:

They are allied not friendly

No they're not, pg 16 first paragraph under "allied fleets."

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The issue was (and is) that the friendly effect can only be resolved by friendly ships and squadrons, and in the case in f Sato, the argument was made that the ship is the one resolving the effect when it shoots - the squadron nearby does no resolving and thus does not need to be subject to the rule.

im still not convinced the intent is for any old squadron to count.

At least, at 2am at work, I can find nothing to quash the argument definitively, so I feel it’s still ambiguous, but personally against my own belief of intent.

Edited by Drasnighta

@Ardaedhel is right with one part. All ships on one side are friendly toward each other. Only the commander is the exception and do not count.

Sadly Sato is a Commander. So his friendly part only count for your own squadrons, and not for the friendly squadrons of the other players on your team.

Edit: Dodonna is the only one that works, because he does not have the wording friendly.

Edited by Tokra

That’s probably intention @Tokra but RAW uses the word “resolved”.

Edited by Drasnighta

The rule says:
-Ships and squadrons from a player's fleet count ships and squadrons from other player's fleet on the same team as friendly, with one exception: a commander's "friendly" effect can only be resolved by ships and squadrons of that players fleet .

If my understanding from the english is correct, then the "by" in that part indicates that the limitation only applies to the ships and squadrons resolving the effect and has nothing to do with the requirements for being able to resolve it. So a ship can trigger Sato's abbility from a friendly squadron not belonging to Sato's fleet.

Edited by Lemmiwinks86

Who takes Sato anyways... He's trash! :ph34r:

To piggyback on Ard's question for AOA, does Sloane work when Sloane activates a squad from a friendly fleet that is not their own? Based on Lemmiwink's response, I'm leaning yes but I have to face sloane soon and would rather it be a no.

15 minutes ago, DirtyBman said:

To piggyback on Ard's question for AOA, does Sloane work when Sloane activates a squad from a friendly fleet that is not their own? Based on Lemmiwink's response, I'm leaning yes but I have to face sloane soon and would rather it be a no.

In Sloane's case be happy because the answer is no :)
That's because Sloane's "friendly" effect is resolved by the squadrons unlike Sato's effect in which the squadrons are needed only for the trigger but the effect is resolved by the ship. Taking this into account, only Sloane's fleet squadrons can resolve her effect.

Edited by Lemmiwinks86
41 minutes ago, DirtyBman said:

To piggyback on Ard's question for AOA, does Sloane work when Sloane activates a squad from a friendly fleet that is not their own? Based on Lemmiwink's response, I'm leaning yes but I have to face sloane soon and would rather it be a no.

Yup, looked into it last night and @Lemmiwinks86 is right, Sloane definitely doesn't apply to the other players' squadrons.

Sorry, was too focused on my deployment last night when you guys asked to really think it through.