Hey Everyone!
So I have my basic list for tournaments right now like so:
Ezra
R3-A2
Gunner
Snap Shot
Keyan
VI
Collision Detector
E2
Maul
Poe
VI
Black One
Adv. Optics
BUT...do I use BB-8 and Integrated Astromech for one guaranteed damage avoidance, plus easy and reliably BO TL stripping, or AT/FAA for countering Turrets/emergency adaptation?
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BB-8 is better than FAA because you control the trigger. Your opponent can shut down FAA by jousting you. If you go with FAA, you better be sure you can win the joust.
Autothrusters will always be better than Integrated Astro. Only take IA if you don’t have the points for AT.
In your list I might swap adaptability on Keyan for VI to gain a point. Not much difference between ps 8 and 9 anyway these days with all the kids running around at PS 11.
And BB8 all day everyday.
You can also change gunner with tactician because you have snapshot. That way you double stress both at range 1 and 2
5 hours ago, GreenDragoon said:You can also change gunner with tactician because you have snapshot. That way you double stress both at range 1 and 2
I like this for saving points, and I’ll probably try it. I would still prefer Wired and Gunner because it can double stress at all ranges in both firing arcs.
10 minutes ago, jmswood said:I like this for saving points, and I’ll probably try it. I would still prefer Wired and Gunner because it can double stress at all ranges in both firing arcs.
I prefer Gunner myself, no EPT, to save the points.
But Snapshot allows you to stress someone pre-action, which is great. snapshot tactician is even cheaper
Thanks for the input everyone!!
On 2/8/2018 at 8:26 AM, GreenDragoon said:I prefer Gunner myself, no EPT, to save the points.
But Snapshot allows you to stress someone pre-action, which is great. snapshot tactician is even cheaper
Why not use a zero point EPT?
Just now, BlodVargarna said:Why not use a zero point EPT?
Yes of course. I should have said „no points on an EPT“
So I took the list with BB-8/IA, rather than AT/FAA (Ezra and Keyan as initially posted) to a 12 person kit tournament today, and finished second!
Game 1 vs. VI, HSCP Fenn and a Lothal Rebel w/ Ezra, Maul, TLT, Sensor Jammer, and docked Zeb. My only loss. I went for his Ghost first, which was stupid: with Fenn messing with me, it took as long to kill the Ghost as it would have taken to kill Fenn (stressing him all the way), and THEN get to the Ghost. I did get the ghost though, but by that point, Ezra was dead, Keyan had been blocked out of position and barely shot, and Poe had poor dice, Zeb and Fenn had great dice.
Game 2 vs. a weird 4 ship imperial swarm list that really wasn't that strong. Tabled the guy fast.
Game 3 vs. a sorta tanky Chewbacca and 2 BTL/FAA/Ion Cannon Ys. I went for the Ys first, they went down in a couple turns, but frankly, only because Ezra's green dice were hot af. The with Expertise and action Chewie...it was just a matter of time. He did get my Keyan, though, just before he went down.
Game 4 vs. Expertise QD, Whisper, and a Baron with TIE/V1 and Juke. I flew like $#!+. Opening engagement I tried to avoid a joust, but that took me out of position, and Whisper got a shot without me getting to shoot anyone. Turn 2 I took out Whisper. For the rest of the match, Poe spent 2 potential range one shots landed on a rock, because I forgot BB-8 doesn't proc when you're stressed (too used to Primed Thrusters lol!), and Keyan got blocked once and then was totally useless because I couldn't get him back around. Poe lost all his shields on those rocks, and the game came down to him and the Baron chasing each other for a few turns with me at 1 Hull. Frankly, my win was pure dice luck, because I purposely landed on a rock once during that segment. That was a shameful display of piloting on my part...
After that, I'm wondering 2 things: would it be worth ditching Snap Shot for AT on Poe, or would it be worth downgrading Keyan to someone else for the same effect? I LOVE Keyan Maullander, and when he can shoot, he hits like a truck. But he's a B-Wing, and B-Wings aren't maneuverable, which screwed me over.
Or do I just fly better hahaha?
What about something like this?
Ezra Bridger (Sheathipede) (17)
Snap Shot (2)
Tactician (2)
R3-A2 (2)
Keyan Farlander (29)
Adaptability (0)
Advanced Sensors (3)
Maul (3)
B-Wing/E2 (1)
Poe Dameron (PS9) (33)
Veteran Instincts (1)
BB-8 (2)
Advanced Optics (2)
Autothrusters (2)
Black One (1)
Total: 100
View in Yet Another Squad Builder
Advanced Sensors could help out with maneuverability of the B-Wing. You can also get both BB-8 and Autothrusters onto Poe using this combination, and still be able to double stress at range 1-2.
8 minutes ago, FrozenPhyro said:What about something like this?
Ezra Bridger (Sheathipede) (17)
Snap Shot (2)
Tactician (2)
R3-A2 (2)Keyan Farlander (29)
Adaptability (0)
Advanced Sensors (3)
Maul (3)
B-Wing/E2 (1)Poe Dameron (PS9) (33)
Veteran Instincts (1)
BB-8 (2)
Advanced Optics (2)
Autothrusters (2)
Black One (1)Total: 100
View in Yet Another Squad Builder
Advanced Sensors could help out with maneuverability of the B-Wing. You can also get both BB-8 and Autothrusters onto Poe using this combination, and still be able to double stress at range 1-2.
I'd rather go collision detector and VI to leave a healthy bid for Poe. Keyan at PS9 can benefit from the bid as well if there's other 9's around.
I really like this list ... I might fly it at casual night and see what trouble it gets me in to. I'd agree that Poe at PS11 wants a bid for stripping those target locks.. you want at least 2 points to make it meaningful