Just saw the movie, and I think we are allowed to post reactions to it. If not for the huge Star Wars news today I would probably be talking more about this.

Very good movie. Considering the deluge of genre movies we are getting these days, this is what a super hero movie needs to aspire to . This is what ANY action movie needs to aspire to. Nearly on par with the first Iron Man or Winter Soldier. And with remarkable music that blows even those two away. ?

As an aside, this movie has a heavy political backdrop running its engine the same way Winter Soldier had.

Do you know how we now think of Robert Downey Jr as Tony Stark or Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool, well Chadwick Boseman is an EXCEPTIONAL Black Panther. He threw himself literally into the role/roll. Marvel has a new star.

And Michael B. Jordan is just as great at Killmonger, so we get both a new Iconic hero and villain in this movie.

I think anyone who got to be in a horrible Fantasic Four movie as the Human Torch redeems themselves by becoming another character in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

The supporting cast does just as good a job as the main characters, GREAT casting here all around. They make the movie that much better.

There are two post credit scenes so stay in your seats.

Calling it now, Black Panther sequel to be announced this month.

7 hours ago, Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun said:

He threw himself literally into the role/roll

Figuratively

I thought creed redeemed his fan4stic shame.

Looking forward to black panther, even the weaker ones like iron man 2 and Thor 2 are entertaining so I've no doubt it'll be enjoyable.

On ‎7‎/‎02‎/‎2018 at 5:32 AM, Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun said:

I think anyone who got to be in a horrible Fantasic Four movie as the Human Torch redeems themselves by becoming another character in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

Oh yeah!

Saw it tonight really good movie not winter soldier good but i'd say 8.5 or 8.75.

really liked the supporting cast the sister was awesome, bad guy had great motivation can't go into much without spoilers.

Go see it.

Saw it last night.... One of the best Marvel movies to date. Triumphant, sad, powerful, amazing.... This movie had it all. I'm just blown away by how good it is!

11 hours ago, Crabbok said:

Saw it last night.... One of the best Marvel movies to date.

Crabbok you need to Cosplay a Lando Black Panther hybrid.

2 hours ago, Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun said:

Crabbok you need to Cosplay a Lando Black Panther hybrid.

I could probably get away without shaving for a cosplay like that

Just saw it, and personally just found it okay. I loved the performances all around, and it had good direction but felt that it would have been better for the film overall had they cut 1 or 2 of the fight scenes in favor for more character bits. I liked seeing T'chala and his sister together and interacting, as well as with his head guard/general and would have loved more of that kind of thing to help build my interest in these characters moving forward. And, that car chase scene, that was probably the highlight action scene of the film for me, good fun and well shot!

Not my favorite MCU film but still pretty enjoyable.

The film is far too sympathetic to the villain.

Standard Marvel fare so entertaining enough. Better than "okay" not really up to "good." Very strong cast though doing fine work with what they were given.

Muddy action. Too much shaky cam for the sake of shaky cam. Nausea inducing edits between moving camera shots. Went to the spinning camera move too many times. There is some sub-par CGI in this.

Did not care for the design of Wakanda.

9 hours ago, Frimmel said:

The film is far too sympathetic to the villain.

Interesting... I'm gonna see it this saturday. But the best villains are the ones you can feel sympathy for.

He does have the better looking suit tough. That bit of gold makes all the difference.

20 hours ago, Frimmel said:

Standard Marvel fare so entertaining enough. Better than "okay" not really up to "good. " Very strong cast though doing fine work with what they were given.

Muddy action. Too much shaky cam for the sake of shaky cam. Nausea inducing edits between moving camera shots. Went to the spinning camera move too many times. There is some sub-par CGI in this.

Spot on here for me. By no means a bad film but has suffered from overhype.

Not to say I disliked Killmonger (or Michael B Jordan in his role), I enjoyed his psychotic nature a fair bit, but he was kind of all over the place in the sense that he wasn't unpredictable or quite as threatening as he should have been. I think MCU top movie villain still sits with Keaton's Vulture.

On that note, I had a small thought about this possibly being a good set-up for Kraven in the next Spider-Man movie, what with the bell flowers and Africa etc etc. Oh well. (That's not a criticism btw I'm just a Spidey fan).

6 hours ago, Procastination said:

On that note, I had a small thought about this possibly being a good set-up for Kraven in the next Spider-Man movie, what with the bell flowers and Africa etc etc. Oh well. (That's not a criticism btw I'm just a Spidey fan).

No, I get it. Infinity War might give them the chance to set up a friendship between Peter and Shuri to give that kind of story a set up or just have Kraven attack while T'chala is on a diplomatic visit. I'm sort of hoping that they will do a Black Panther vs Namor movie at some point.

7 hours ago, Procastination said:

Spot on here for me. By no means a bad film but has suffered from overhype.

Not to say I disliked Killmonger (or Michael B Jordan in his role), I enjoyed his psychotic nature a fair bit, but he was kind of all over the place in the sense that he wasn't unpredictable or quite as threatening as he should have been. I think MCU top movie villain still sits with Keaton's Vulture.

On that note, I had a small thought about this possibly being a good set-up for Kraven in the next Spider-Man movie, what with the bell flowers and Africa etc etc. Oh well. (That's not a criticism btw I'm just a Spidey fan).

The thing I'm getting at is no one seemed all that put out about or against the villain's plan except for "That's not how Wakanda does things." Otherwise way too many folks really seemed kind of on board with it including the film-makers.

1 hour ago, Frimmel said:

The thing I'm getting at is no one seemed all that put out about or against the villain's plan except for "That's not how Wakanda does things." Otherwise way too many folks really seemed kind of on board with it including the film-makers.

Kilmonger just saw ATOC as a kid and was like, "I really like this Anakin guy, he is making some good sense." That Tuskain Raider scene really spoke to him.

Actually...does the math work out for that considering his character's age?

Black Panther is the first film since Avatar eight years ago to top the chart for five consecutive weekends, and only the third film to do so in 19 years after Avatar and The Sixth Sense. The Disney and Marvel superhero pic finished Sunday with a domestic total of $605.4 million and $1.182 billion globally. In the U.S., it is only days away from overtaking fellow Marvel film The Avengers ($623 million) to become the top-grossing superhero film of all time in North America, unadjusted for inflation.

I finally got to see this one. I have to say that it was definitely one of my favorite Marvel movies.

Pros:

I really like the movies that focus on a more "minor" character and don't have to tie into the whole series. This is a Marvel movie that my friends who didn't read the comics and/or see the other movies can understand.

Amazing graphics. So cool. The whole movie just really popped aesthetically, and it was the first Marvel movie that really felt like any still from the movie could be a desktop screensaver.

They weren't afraid to have characters take controversial political viewpoints, and I liked how they just sort of let the characters do their thing and didn't attach values to anything. They really let the audience make up their mind, and they covered some things that I think are really important to talk about.

All the actors were fantastic! One of the best-acted Marvel movies I've seen.

Cons:

I did think that there were a bit too many fight scenes and a little too little actual plot - I kind of worry about how violent movies are getting, because after a while it just gets boring.

I didn't really like that Klaw was basically Snoke's hillbilly cousin - another Andy Serkis CGI - that freaked me out a little. I'm not sure I'm going to like it when movies decide they don't even need real actors anymore.

It's brave in this climate to have wakanda be the alt rights ideal of an ethno state, and to make the antagonist a blm advocate.

15 hours ago, Hobojebus said:

It's brave in this climate to have wakanda be the alt rights ideal of an ethno state, and to make the antagonist a blm advocate.

The lesson of the movie is that isolationism is bad. That is Wakanda's story arc in the film isolationist to fixing the world. Nothing brave in this movie lest you count Andy Serkis not being CGI. Nice and safe all around.

5 hours ago, Frimmel said:

The lesson of the movie is that isolationism is bad. That is Wakanda's story arc in the film isolationist to fixing the world. Nothing brave in this movie lest you count Andy Serkis not being CGI. Nice and safe all around.

I liked that quote (1st half) about "if we let the refugees in we'll just get more problems" I was expecting them to say the opposite. I liked it.

14 hours ago, Robin Graves said:

I liked that quote (1st half) about "if we let the refugees in we'll just get more problems" I was expecting them to say the opposite. I liked it.

I agree that was something I wasn't expecting to hear but we only hear it because by the end that view is shown to be "wrong." This is what I mean by the story being "safe." Wakanda being against immigration and refugees and for being isolationist to Wakanda becoming not those things by the end.

On 3/18/2018 at 6:29 PM, Kieransi said:

I finally got to see this one. I have to say that it was definitely one of my favorite Marvel movies.

Cons:

I didn't really like that Klaw was basically Snoke's hillbilly cousin - another Andy Serkis CGI - that freaked me out a little. I'm not sure I'm going to like it when movies decide they don't even need real actors anymore.

I am onboard with you on all your pros.

With Andy Snoke Serkis portrayal of Klaw I have to respectfully disagree. I rather enjoyed his take on a villain that could have been very dull and blandly two dimensional. I would not have minded if Klaw outlived the movie, but most MCU villains don’t last more than their respective film, save for Loki.

8 hours ago, Frimmel said:

I agree that was something I wasn't expecting to hear but we only hear it because by the end that view is shown to be "wrong." This is what I mean by the story being "safe." Wakanda being against immigration and refugees and for being isolationist to Wakanda becoming not those things by the end.

That's very on point, I'd enjoyed being surprised by that line and wanted to see some of the tension between traditions and progress play out. But they just kind of petered away as the movie descended into a typical superhero battle royale, until T'Challa seemed to have relatively arbitrarily just decided at the end 'hey, we're just going to switch to your typical globalized state'.

1 hour ago, Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun said:

I am onboard with you on all your pros.

With Andy Snoke Serkis portrayal of Klaw I have to respectfully disagree. I rather enjoyed his take on a villain that could have been very dull and blandly two dimensional. I would not have minded if Klaw outlived the movie, but most MCU villains don’t last more than their respective film, save for Loki.

Yeah, no, I like Serkis a lot, and I think his character was really cool. He's certainly a fantastic voice actor, and I liked getting to see more of his real face in this one.

I guess it always just kinda weirds me out when I don't know where the CGI stops and the actual actors begin. Like, I know that they had to CGI parts of his body for some scenes, but I couldn't actually tell which parts of his body and which scenes. And so I was left wondering how much of his costuming and makeup was even real, or if they were doing CGI on his face too. Same goes for the Black Panther outfits - were they stunt doubles, or CGI?

I guess ever since Tarkin and Leia in Rogue One (which were masterfully done, by the way), I've become a little frightened by what CGI can do and thus I've gotten paranoid about whether anything I even see on the screen anymore is real.

But that’s the GOAL of special effects. To seamlessly blend the effect with the actor/set/environment/whatever. And is why I get annoyed at people complaining about excess cgi in movies. You can’t tell the difference anymore, so it doesn’t matter if it’s practical or digital effects.