1 hour ago, Celestial Lizards said:

The big problem is that he can't participate in our Star Wars discussions and he doesn't know who any of the unique crew/pilots are (besides their abilities).

54 minutes ago, BlodVargarna said:

No 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 as God intended. Then show R1. 1-3 don’t add a thing so save everyone the time.

if after all that they are still wanting content, then Rebels and Clone Wars cartoons.

And they are irrelevant to talking about the game ships, except the ARC-170. So, a nice-n-easy 12 hours, then.

And I agree with the notion of release order, not story chronology order. Except maybe re-watching IV after R1. So let's go back up to 14 hours

7 minutes ago, Kieransi said:

I'd still suggest skipping the Christmas Special though...

But .. But... Lumpy!

1 minute ago, Vordyn said:

But .. But... Lumpy!

The world has changed. No matter how much you like Episode IV, you see that Christmas Special next, and you're done with Star Wars for good... still not sure how Star Wars survived that thing back in the day. I guess chalk one up to Boba Fett for saving Star Wars by being in the only watchable part of that thing?

1 hour ago, Boba Rick said:

R1, IV, V, II, III, VI, VII, VIII

Let's not confuse the mind of the non-initiated.

If you are not watching the prequels before the OT, you better not watch them at all.

Look the prequals are pretty crummy.... BUT they have some merit (II and III) in making ROTJ a better experience. Seeing Anakin fall and Luke follow in the same footsteps and come close is good stuff.

I'm not 100% sold on II and III though, but I do think watching R1 first is best, people are okay with IV being poorer quality because it still has a great story with the two tied together. And guaranteed R1 will HOOK anyone on Star Wars and they will keep watching them if nothing else than to try and recapture the awesomeness that is R1.

Rogue One is good and all, but it's there to provide a backstory.

Episode IV is the start of the whole story. It's the center of all Star Wars fandom. You absolutely must watch Episode IV first.

That's the best way to hook someone, that story of the two small sentient robots, a normal teenager, a princess, and a scoundrel who get unwittingly dragged into World War II in the Old West in outer space.

After IV, the natural movie to watch next is either V or R1. I'd personally save R1 for where it naturally fits in the progression of where stuff was released. But that's me, a purist. Either way, Episode IV first. No question.

15 minutes ago, Kieransi said:

Rogue One is good and all, but it's there to provide a backstory.

Episode IV is the start of the whole story. It's the center of all Star Wars fandom. You absolutely must watch Episode IV first.

That's the best way to hook someone, that story of the two small sentient robots, a normal teenager, a princess, and a scoundrel who get unwittingly dragged into World War II in the Old West in outer space.

After IV, the natural movie to watch next is either V or R1. I'd personally save R1 for where it naturally fits in the progression of where stuff was released. But that's me, a purist. Either way, Episode IV first. No question.

Hmmmmmm. I see where you're coming from, but you have to view it from the eyes of a new person today.

We love IV because we saw it 30 years ago. It has a great story and great characters, but the fact is that compared to today's movies it moves slow and is wanting in the special effects area. A lot of young people today would say it was boring and want to quit after watching Threepio and R2 wander and bicker in the desert. We love that - they won't.

You HOOK them with R1, a movie which is fantastic in every way and accepted by all Star Wars fans and is itself a great standalone movie. They will endure the slow parts of IV - and R1 will make IV BETTER to a fresh set of eyes and make it even more exciting when the Death Star blows up.

Then the next movie is Empire Strikes Back. Hello! Awesome movie! And then just go from there.

I really don't see why people think the Prequels do not add anything to the story. They add quite a bit to the story, most notably the development of Palpatine and documenting his rise to power, which helps to show how life in the Galaxy after the Empire is so different (worse) than life before it.

That being said, the Prequels add TOO MUCH. Jar-Jar, Midichlorians, an hour of podracing, fart jokes, droid head-swapping antics, terrible 'romance' dialogue, General Grievous -- all of this stuff could be aggressively edited out and you're left with one decent feature-length film. In fact, there have been many "Phantom Edit" fan efforts that have trimmed the Prequels into one tight, mature movie.

Not joking about this, but if you have access to it, try the Lego Droid Tales tv series

At this point most of the SW movie reveals have been spoiled by pop culture and these cartoons re-cap the whole saga succinctly, more-or-less. And they are funny. It's like the Cliff's Notes of Star Wars.

If he's really interested, he'll find a way to see the stories from the movies properly.

7 minutes ago, AllWingsStandyingBy said:

I really don't see why people think the Prequels do not add anything to the story. They add quite a bit to the story, most notably the development of Palpatine and documenting his rise to power, which helps to show how life in the Galaxy after the Empire is so different (worse) than life before it.

100% agree. The prequels are a good story. They are bad movies.

Lucas said it himself in one of the interviews for the DVDs. He made the movies with the assumption we knew the story, and just wanted to see the action. So the movies are all bling but no storytelling or character development.

The story is there. Heck, even Jar Jar has his role if you watch carefully. . .he's the bumbling fool craftily installed by Palpatine to manipulate the Senate into voting his way. But it is all buried under a heavy layer of bad jokes and worse dialog.

21 minutes ago, Boba Rick said:

Hmmmmmm. I see where you're coming from, but you have to view it from the eyes of a new person today.

We love IV because we saw it 30 years ago. It has a great story and great characters, but the fact is that compared to today's movies it moves slow and is wanting in the special effects area. A lot of young people today would say it was boring and want to quit after watching Threepio and R2 wander and bicker in the desert. We love that - they won't.

You HOOK them with R1, a movie which is fantastic in every way and accepted by all Star Wars fans and is itself a great standalone movie. They will endure the slow parts of IV - and R1 will make IV BETTER to a fresh set of eyes and make it even more exciting when the Death Star blows up.

Then the next movie is Empire Strikes Back. Hello! Awesome movie! And then just go from there.

I'm not fully convinced. I didn't watch the movies as a kid, and didn't watch the movies myself until about 10 year ago, and that was after I'd already seen at least a few of the more "modern" movies. I won't deny there's going to be some who are too jaded to appreciate Episode IV. But Star Wars just isn't for them.

You need to have a certain amount of wonder and awe, and a fresh mind to truly appreciate these deep yet silly, crazy yet coherent, sci-fi yet romantic comedy, war movie yet western, cult-classic yet big-name movies.

Better to learn Star Wars isn't for you before you get too deeply involved.

11 minutes ago, Boba Rick said:

You HOOK them with R1, a movie which is fantastic in every way and accepted by all Star Wars fans and is itself a great standalone movie. They will endure the slow parts of IV - and R1 will make IV BETTER to a fresh set of eyes and make it even more exciting when the Death Star blows up.

For what it's worth, there are actually a lot of Star Wars fans that dislike R1, or more specifically the first half of R1.

I feel like you're doing a disservice to someone if you treat them like they're not sophisticated enough to enjoy the original movie and try to trick them into liking the franchise by introducing them to a bunch of background characters that will never be seen in the story again. Luke, Han, Leia, Chewy, R2, and 3PO are really the pillars on which the entire franchise was built, and I feel like those are the characters newcomers should be introduced to first, otherwise the viewer will see them as 2nd string characters to the R1 case, which is *** backwards. Jyn, Cassio and the rest are dead end characters that only work because the filmmakers knew that viewers had already seen the original film and made emotional connections to those characters. If R1 is the first movie in the franchise that you watch, and you build emotional connections to those characters only to have that yanked away from you at the end of the movie, it's going to be harder to get emotionally invested in these new characters after you just watched the first set all die.

I get what you're saying about tastes changing, but you have to ask if your goal is to share Star Wars with someone or to get someone to like Star Wars no matter what. If your goal is the latter, than maybe R1 might be the right answer, but I think the goal should be the former, and in that case I'd be fine if someone ended up not liking the franchise but at least they saw it in the original order that everyone else who loves it did.

3 minutes ago, Darth Meanie said:

100% agree. The prequels are a good story. They are bad movies.

Lucas said it himself in one of the interviews for the DVDs. He made the movies with the assumption we knew the story, and just wanted to see the action. So the movies are all bling but no storytelling or character development.

The story is there. Heck, even Jar Jar has his role if you watch carefully. . .he's the bumbling fool craftily installed by Palpatine to manipulate the Senate into voting his way. But it is all buried under a heavy layer of bad jokes and worse dialog.

I don't agree 100%. Some of the characters in the prequels are worth the watch.

For all the mess than Phantom Menace is to some... Sebulba and Watto are worth the time spent watching them.

I would show ALL of the movies to someone who has not seen them prior and watch them in order of how they were released with POSSIBLY moving R1 to the end. Because who wants to end on the latest failure (VIII).

5 hours ago, BlodVargarna said:

Isn’t the machete order IV, II, III, V, VI, VII, VIII? I think R1 serves as a good bookend after you’ve gotten through all that.

Personally I’d really skip II and III.

Traditional machete is IV, V, II, III, VI

With the new VII, R1, and VIII, usually it is:

IV, V, II, III, R1, VI, VII, VIII

This makes it so that the Vader/Luke reveal is played out properly, then you get background, then keep going.

With doing II and III before V, you lose so much of the power of V.

Save episode 3 for last. It has the Wookiee battle. That’s the best part in the whole series.

Whatever you do, remember these words (pictures?) of wisdom from XKCD:

Also, my vote is for release order, skipping over the prequels. After he's caught up with everything, if he's still itching for more and willing to take the bad along with the good, then he can choose to watch the prequels.

7 hours ago, Sephlar said:

I don't agree 100%. Some of the characters in the prequels are worth the watch.

For all the mess than Phantom Menace is to some... Sebulba and Watto are worth the time spent watching them.

So true. I've said for years that Watto and Sebulba are the best actors in Ep1!

11 hours ago, Celestial Lizards said:

One of the people in my X-Wing gaming group has never seen any Star Wars movies. What do I do?

I didnt watch episodes 1-3 until I err ... played this game. I've also skipped all the cartoons and novels.

Many people say Episode IV is a poor movie, but it does an amazing job of introducing us to the SW universe, the key players and the concepts of the Force and the conflicts.

Essential first movie I feel.

13 hours ago, Stevey86 said:

Rogue One, New Hope, Empire 6 times, Jedi?

Maybe he means The Clone Wars played at about 160% speed. That's about 18 hours?

13 hours ago, Boba Rick said:

R1, IV, V, II, III, VI, VII, VIII

14 hours ago, Celestial Lizards said:

One of the people in my X-Wing gaming group has never seen any Star Wars movies. What do I do?

kill shelters arent great, but it might be the more humane option.

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15 hours ago, Celestial Lizards said:

One of the people in my X-Wing gaming group has never seen any Star Wars movies. What do I do?

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4 hours ago, spacelion said:

I didnt watch episodes 1-3 until I err ... played this game. I've also skipped all the cartoons and novels.

Rebels and Clone Wars are decent and much much better than 1-3.

I want to have someone watch Rogue 1 first and then IV. I want to hear what they think. I know IV is a good intro, but I wonder how it is with R1 first. I think it's worth getting someone's opinion before all of us who have seen them all 100 times throw out their opinions.

I have a copy of a fan edit that removes some of the most offensive things from the prequels (less Jarjar, less droids, less romance). I've rewatched I-III a number of times this way and they aren't so bad. It's not so bad as people recall. Also, I think the Clone Wars tv show (both of them) do a lot to make the movies better.