Rebel trooper article

By unxbr3akabl3, in Star Wars: Legion

9 minutes ago, ScummyRebel said:

So, like the stormtroopers pack, these are the exact same model sculpts as seen in the core box? The only difference is the impact grenades and grappling hooks?

Yes, sculpts are the same.

Just now, Extropia said:

Yes, sculpts are the same.

Bummer.

Well, this is definitely starting to look like time to abandon the original plan and buy a 2nd core and get a ton of stuff free.... one rebel trooper, one stormtrooper, and one of each support is more expensive than a core (at the reduced online prices).

59 minutes ago, ScummyRebel said:

Bummer.

Well, this is definitely starting to look like time to abandon the original plan and buy a 2nd core and get a ton of stuff free.... one rebel trooper, one stormtrooper, and one of each support is more expensive than a core (at the reduced online prices).

I was bummed the troopers were the same sculpts too. It sounds like the speeder bike unit leader and at rt pilot are the only sculpt differences from the core to the expansions. FFG missed an opportunity here to change the Duros rebel to a Twilek (etc) to mix the rebels up a bit. As it stands, I plan to add a Mirialan and Panteran to my trooper units to make them feel a little less human-centric.

On 2/6/2018 at 1:35 AM, Rammstein117 said:

Variant alien sculpts would be great, they could take influence from the choices in the 2015 battlefront game. Male Sullustan, female twi lek, rodian with a heavy weapon. This isn't high priority but down the line I think a bits bag of alternate sculpts to sprinkle across a rebel force would be great.

How do you envision a bits bag working given the only pieces of the models that are seperate are the arms? They would either need to release entire bodies with the different heads, or change their molds to have a swappable head system like other model manufacturers. (EDIT: or expect customers to cut off the heads, but then that would open them up to critisism when people cut too much off/cut the wrong way "despite following the instructions") I was originally really excited for multipart figures to get to customize the squad's species makeup, but the various unboxings and painting tutorials have shown the head (which is the most important part for differentiating near human Star Wars species) is part of the same mold as the torso and legs. I still like the models, just not a huge fan of each squad consisting of exactly the same poses.

I do expect we might see third party options for those willing to risk chopping off heads and gluing on replacements, but any Twi'lek heads are unlikely to have as dynamic of lekku as I would want.

18 minutes ago, OMGBRICK said:

I was bummed the troopers were the same sculpts too. It sounds like the speeder bike unit leader and at rt pilot are the only sculpt differences from the core to the expansions. FFG missed an opportunity here to change the Duros rebel to a Twilek (etc) to mix the rebels up a bit. As it stands, I plan to add a Mirialan and Panteran to my trooper units to make them feel a little less human-centric.

This is also a big reason I plan to paint up my Rebel troopers with slightly different paint schemes in addition to different color near humans, but keeping using one or two colors to tie them together as a unified force. What I can't easily accomplish with modeling, I will try to do with painting.

Edited by Caimheul1313

@ScummyRebelYes, as expected. So far they have done that exact same thing with all their miniatures games.

1 hour ago, Caimheul1313 said:

This is also a big reason I plan to paint up my Rebel troopers with slightly different paint schemes in addition to different color near humans, but keeping using one or two colors to tie them together as a unified force. What I can't easily accomplish with modeling, I will try to do with painting.

I thought this quote from the recent rebel trooper article was amusing: “Beings from countless species and worlds have joined the Rebel Alliance, and it’s not uncommon to see that diversity reflected in your infantry squads.” Especially when they’ve only represented one species outside of humans with their models.

I plan to use uniform colors to tie my band of rebels together but want to have a really diverse bunch as far as species goes (because the Star Wars galaxy is big and full of cool aliens). Seen a lot of people say they’d like a Wookie commando unit but I’d so much rather see FFG do a “heavy” commando unit with like a Wookie, Besalisk, and a Talz or something.

Because there is a Duros in the regular Rebel Trooper unit I'm not that worried.

As there's no obvious alien in the Fleet Trooper unit, I'll be painting one of the to be a Zeltron.

And now that unit has diversity.

21 minutes ago, Indy_com said:

Because there is a Duros in the regular Rebel Trooper unit I'm not that worried.

As there's no obvious alien in the Fleet Trooper unit, I'll be painting one of the to be a Zeltron.

And now that unit has diversity.

Oooh wasn’t aware Zeltrons were canon. That’s a good idea. I’m only hesitant to paint aliens into the Fleet Troopers because they’re supposed to be remnants of the Alderaanian consular security are they not?

Just now, OMGBRICK said:

Oooh wasn’t aware Zeltrons were canon. That’s a good idea. I’m only hesitant to paint aliens into the Fleet Troopers because they’re supposed to be remnants of the Alderaanian consular security are they not?

That's correct.

But Alderran was pretty easy-going and who would say no to having a Zeltron protecting you, passing happy thoughts to everyone who goes near them.

Then again, if they get p*ssed off, EVERYONE's going to have a bad day...

33 minutes ago, OMGBRICK said:

Oooh wasn’t aware Zeltrons were canon. That’s a good idea. I’m only hesitant to paint aliens into the Fleet Troopers because they’re supposed to be remnants of the Alderaanian consular security are they not?

Or they are just Rebel Alliance troops using the same/similar uniform. It is also canon that the Troopers on Yavin IV in the uniform are NOT part of the Alderaanian Consular Security, but had adopted variations upon the uniform.

Pantoran, Zabrak, Mirialan, and Umbaran are also all canon near-humans.

4 hours ago, Caimheul1313 said:

How do you envision a bits bag working given the only pieces of the models that are seperate are the arms? They would either need to release entire bodies with the different heads, or change their molds to have a swappable head system like other model manufacturers. (EDIT: or expect customers to cut off the heads, but then that would open them up to critisism when people cut too much off/cut the wrong way "despite following the instructions") I was originally really excited for multipart figures to get to customize the squad's species makeup, but the various unboxings and painting tutorials have shown the head (which is the most important part for differentiating near human Star Wars species) is part of the same mold as the torso and legs. I still like the models, just not a huge fan of each squad consisting of exactly the same poses.

I do expect we might see third party options for those willing to risk chopping off heads and gluing on replacements, but any Twi'lek heads are unlikely to have as dynamic of lekku as I would want.

This is also a big reason I plan to paint up my Rebel troopers with slightly different paint schemes in addition to different color near humans, but keeping using one or two colors to tie them together as a unified force. What I can't easily accomplish with modeling, I will try to do with painting.

I figured entire alternate sculpts, I said bits bag cause I don't feel they need to make it an expansion with cards and more rules and tokens. FFG isn't really a model company like GW so it may never happen though. Resin 3rd party bits seem like a guarantee though.

5 minutes ago, Rammstein117 said:

I figured entire alternate sculpts, I said bits bag cause I don't feel they need to make it an expansion with cards and more rules and tokens. FFG isn't really a model company like GW so it may never happen though. Resin 3rd party bits seem like a guarantee though.

AH! Okay, coming from other miniature companies I picture "bits bag" as a very different thing than "alternate sculpt." I do agree about FFG and 3rd party manufacturers. I also expect a whole bunch of stores on shapeways will suddenly have oddly named alien troops in short order, potentially some designed to fit the Rebel Trooper arms even.

I guess large parts of the rebelion just use gear from the alderaanianecurity guard. Since the alderaanian security guard is an official organisation tolerated by the empire (and under rebel control) it totally makes sense to inconspicuously buy equipement, recruit and train through the guard. This way large parts of the rebel infantry might wear security guard gear and fight like them(when you have the instructors in your legitemate force you can also use them for the unofficial one) although they never were part of them.

Plus having a uniform legitimizes the Rebellion. "See, we have uniforms, therefore are an organized military force resisting the oppressive government, not just some ragtag dissidents!" Makes it easier to convince world governments to aid the Rebellion I'd imagine, not to mention inspiring esprit de corps among the soldiers.