Need help with penalties

By Lucas Adorn, in WFRP Rules Questions

I know there are some really brainy statistic guys out there among you. Can you help with putting the following in order from worse to worst?

2 Misfortune dice

1 challenge dice

1 challenge dice + 1 misfortune dice

3 misfortune dice

2 challenge dice

Thanks

-L

2M

1C

3M

1C+1M

2C

Cool Thanx.

Uhm so along the same lines. which is better?

2 Fortune

1 Expertise

1 Characteristic

1 Char + 1 Fortune

3 Fortune

2 expertise

-L

If you're just talking successes and counting comets as successes then (but it's more complex than that):

1C

1E

2F

1C + 1F

3F

2E

My gut says that 1 Expertise is better than 2 fortune. The chance of a Righteous success result, is important, because it adds a second (or third, etc) die.

Otherwise, based purely on instinct and experience rolling the dice, I think Monkeylite has both orders correct.

dvang said:

My gut says that 1 Expertise is better than 2 fortune. The chance of a Righteous success result, is important, because it adds a second (or third, etc) die.

Yeah, purely on successes, afaict, 2 fortune is better, but the bigger the pool, the less advantage it has, and there aren't many pools where I wouldn't rather have an expertise dice.

I should probably add that I wasn't doing any proper math, I was just using this dice roller:

http://www.jaj22.org.uk/wfrp/diceroller_compact.html

Oh yeah i forgot about that page:

i guess what I am after is a bit vague. Its probably a feeling of what people would generally prefer as a bonus die.

thanks for the help.

Lucas Adorn said:

Oh yeah i forgot about that page:

i guess what I am after is a bit vague. Its probably a feeling of what people would generally prefer as a bonus die.

thanks for the help.

The expertise die is usually better because it has a better chance of adding a comet or boons. Successes are only one part of the damage, if we're talking attacks for instance.