Solo Teaser Observations

By Celestial Lizards, in X-Wing Off-Topic

3 hours ago, Rexler Brath said:

Looks like this movie has jokes in it, but the one at the end of this trailer is terrible. Poor Ron Howard. You may dislike the Lego Movie and Cloudy... but those movies are commercial successes. Its why Disney hired them. The long trailer already has bad acting and bad jokes and bad space tentacles.

100% agree. The bad joke and space tentacles are not strong selling points for this movie.

27 minutes ago, Sir Orrin said:

I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I'm cautiously hyped for this. I don't think anyone can replace Han Solo, but I think the rest of the movie might make up for it. Also the world building in this one looks great compared to TFA and TLJ.

I agree. The main saga has so much operatic Skywalker drama to cover that it doesn't leave enough time for world building. Rogue One had some great looks at the more seldom seen parts of Star Wars and I'm pumped for what we'll see in this film. Just the promise of a Star Wars train heist sounds pretty awesome.

The problem that plagued Rogue One was that the lead wasn't super strong (Cassian and K2SO were far more interesting). I'm hoping that Alden can at least do an okay job. Despite Jyn Erso's general lack of screen charisma, Rogue One still managed to be a great movie. I have a feeling Lando is going to be stealing quite a few scenes.

36 minutes ago, Sir Orrin said:

I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I'm cautiously hyped for this. I don't think anyone can replace Han Solo, but I think the rest of the movie might make up for it. Also the world building in this one looks great compared to TFA and TLJ.

Not just you @Sir Orrin - I said after Rogue One then reiterated after The Last Jedi that I was more interested in seeing new films set during the Galactic Civil War era, and this is no exception. The trailer (all 1:44 of it, admittedly) shows a lot of the grimy, used, lived-in aesthetic that the originals enjoyed, and the supporting cast looks good. I'm not going to fixate on another actor portraying Han, I'm just looking forward to a good Star Wars romp. Seeing more of the Imperial perspective and the criminal underworld sounds good to me.

And that rule-of-cool guitar riff theme is getting me hyped!

@FTS Gecko , not sure I agree 100% on the original trilogy era - I for one would like to see more depth added to the Star Wars universe, and I feel like there's only so much that can be done with Empire vs. Rebels. I think if Episodes VII and VIII had left room for more world building around them, I'd like to see "A Star Wars Story" set in that timeframe. I also would like to see more well-done Star Wars stuff set back before the Empire.

But I totally agree with you that it seems that the off-year movies are going to be the best (the ones with A Star Wars Story in the title). Seems like Disney has applied Intel's old Tick-Tock architecture to their design of the Star Wars universe, and I think I like the Tocks better.

20 minutes ago, Kieransi said:

@FTS Gecko , not sure I agree 100% on the original trilogy era - I for one would like to see more depth added to the Star Wars universe, and I feel like there's only so much that can be done with Empire vs. Rebels. I think if Episodes VII and VIII had left room for more world building around them, I'd like to see "A Star Wars Story" set in that timeframe. I also would like to see more well-done Star Wars stuff set back before the Empire.

Yeah, what we really need to see is the rest of the universe that isn't the Empire or Rebels - we've gotten a lot of hints, especially in the newer materials, indicating a lot smaller scope of what the Empire really controlled.

What's going on in the rest of the galaxy? The various guilds that Leia alluded to, and presumably some of which we saw in the Clone Wars? Or the various 'uncharted settlements' that the Empire doesn't seem to have any interest in? etc. Heck, add some depth to Black Sun and the Hutt cartels.

So...kinda feels a bit disappointing that the movie looks to retread the same, boring, 'Empire vs Rebels' stuff again. I mean...maybe they are just pitching the trailer in that direction, and it's reflective of just a small part of the movie. Still optimistic!

1 minute ago, xanderf said:

Yeah, what we really need to see is the rest of the universe that isn't the Empire or Rebels - we've gotten a lot of hints, especially in the newer materials, indicating a lot smaller scope of what the Empire really controlled.

What's going on in the rest of the galaxy? The various guilds that Leia alluded to, and presumably some of which we saw in the Clone Wars? Or the various 'uncharted settlements' that the Empire doesn't seem to have any interest in? etc. Heck, add some depth to Black Sun and the Hutt cartels.

So...kinda feels a bit disappointing that the movie looks to retread the same, boring, 'Empire vs Rebels' stuff again. I mean...maybe they are just pitching the trailer in that direction, and it's reflective of just a small part of the movie. Still optimistic!

The guy with the Kylo Renish mask seems like scum not rebel or Imperial and he's got a band of scummy friends in the background :D

I for one would love more light shed on black sun, the hutt cartel and all scummy etc. Etc. That element is my favorite part of star wars. And I want more of it on the big screen...

What's everyone else doing that's not a rebel or Imperial... I would really like to know Disney!

30 minutes ago, Kieransi said:

@FTS Gecko , not sure I agree 100% on the original trilogy era - I for one would like to see more depth added to the Star Wars universe, and I feel like there's only so much that can be done with Empire vs. Rebels. I think if Episodes VII and VIII had left room for more world building around them, I'd like to see "A Star Wars Story" set in that timeframe. I also would like to see more well-done Star Wars stuff set back before the Empire.

Oh, I agree there's only so much to be done with the Rebels vs the Empire (although I don't think we're anywhere near the limit yet, even without the main cast), but Civil War era doesn't necessarily mean Rebels vs Empire. The Empire will always be around, providing a reliable backdrop, but the Rebellion certainly doesn't need to be present. I doubt we'll see much of the Rebellion if anything in Solo.

But there's plenty of places the Stories could go. A Top Gun-style film based on the Imperial Academy (with Wedge and Fel?), a film based on the Bounty Hunters (not even Fett; I'd like to see a take on IG-88 or Bossk with modern practical effects. There's a lot of possibilities in the Civil War era from stuff that's shown only briefly, hinted at or mentioned in passing.

1 hour ago, Alpha17 said:

100% agree. The bad joke and space tentacles are not strong selling points for this movie.

Solo just went so far into deep space that he found Cthulhu.

It's fine. They're fine.

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The “We’re fine” line is clearly harking back to his similar line in the detention centre in ANH.

3 hours ago, thespaceinvader said:

I had to pause the video carefully at that point to make sure that wasn't Maz Kanata.

It's not.

That was my impression as well. Thanks for the stills.

I’m going to have to between now and May get over that Alden Erenreich looks and sounds nothing like Harrison Ford.

I’m also going to have to get past the new (old) look of the Falcon. That barrel roll TIE smash maneuver was dope though.

1 hour ago, FTS Gecko said:

Not just you @Sir Orrin - I said after Rogue One then reiterated after The Last Jedi that I was more interested in seeing new films set during the Galactic Civil War era, and this is no exception. The trailer (all 1:44 of it, admittedly) shows a lot of the grimy, used, lived-in aesthetic that the originals enjoyed, and the supporting cast looks good. I'm not going to fixate on another actor portraying Han, I'm just looking forward to a good Star Wars romp. Seeing more of the Imperial perspective and the criminal underworld sounds good to me.

100% agree. Much more interested in seeing what the rest of the Star Wars universe looks like, rather than what a Skywalker is up to. Luke had his trilogy, and it was great. I didn't really need one about his dad, nor did I really need one about his students.

Rogue One's look at the universe through a slightly wider lens was one of the best things about it. Whether or not Solo ends up any good, I'll applaud the attempts to do a little more with Star Wars than just tread the well-worn paths of people who carry lightsabers. Heck, I'm one of the people who think Rogue One would have been better if Darth Vader's only scene in the film was him on the bridge of his star destroyer when they ambush the Rebels at Scariff. The boarding party scene was cool, but incredibly unnecessary and out of character. And the Krennic conversation.. ugh.

Personally, I kinda like that the actor looks nothing like Harrison Ford. I mean, Hamlet and Macbeth don't always look like the last actor to fill the role. Whether or not I'm going to like his performance remains to be seen.

I think I wish it'd have just been "LANDO" as the move. Donald Glover looks amazing. Watch him smooth as butter for 2 hours? Yes, please.

4 hours ago, TheVeteranSergeant said:

The OT made a cultural icon out of a film starring a voice actor from the I Dream of Jeannie cartoon, a bit part player from Warren Beatty's version of Shampoo, and the part-time actor-carpenter who built an office for Francis Ford Coppola. Let's not talk about casting, lol. The prequels did not fail because of Hayden Christensen.

Haven't seen it, but I've heard Shattered Glass is good. With a better script and direction, I think Hayden Christensen could have been strong as Anakin. Jake Lloyd was wrongly cast, I think, but that's on George Lucas and the casting directors for not going with someone who'd actually have been age-appropriate for the role, or at least hiring an actual child actor. Mans was 10, isn't his fault.

As to the Clone Wars, I mean, given the prequels, why were they even called that? Shouldn't they have been called the Separatist Wars or the Droid Wars. Or War. Why is it even plural?

3 hours ago, Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun said:

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These maybe the troopers protecting the train. Notice the tracks in the packaging.

God save me. I’m looking at secondary Box art now.

So a snow trooper with the tank driver helmet from Rogue One, okay...

3 hours ago, Kieransi said:

Yeah, I know... but I do miss the early 2000's, when all the $7, 3.5-inch action figures in Target had great articulation. Now you have to pay $20 each for the one or two Black Series action figures they make. All the action figures in a normal store now are those horrible non-articulated ones with the rocket-launcher jetpacks. I still haven't been able to find good Rey, Kylo, Jyn, Cassian, Baze, Chirrut, etc. 3.5-inch action figures with bending knees and elbows, whereas I seriously have Denal (that's right, Denal, the random 501st Clone Trooper who has exactly one scene, which is when he dies) in that fantastic 3.5-inch fully articulated action figure form. So you can say all you like about the Clone Wars/prequels era, but that era had the best action figures.

Hasbro sucks.

/rant

Granted, I wouldn't go around buying figures nowdays, I like to keep my plastic crack addiction limited to FFG, but the new toys really do just kind of look cheap.

1 hour ago, Alpha17 said:

100% agree. The bad joke and space tentacles are not strong selling points for this movie.

I want to say that it seems odd we keep seeing tentacle monsters in the new films but then again we have the trash compacter monster and the Sarlac so eh~

1 hour ago, Kieransi said:

@FTS Gecko , not sure I agree 100% on the original trilogy era - I for one would like to see more depth added to the Star Wars universe, and I feel like there's only so much that can be done with Empire vs. Rebels. I think if Episodes VII and VIII had left room for more world building around them, I'd like to see "A Star Wars Story" set in that timeframe. I also would like to see more well-done Star Wars stuff set back before the Empire.

But I totally agree with you that it seems that the off-year movies are going to be the best (the ones with A Star Wars Story in the title). Seems like Disney has applied Intel's old Tick-Tock architecture to their design of the Star Wars universe, and I think I like the Tocks better.

I like the GCW era, but I'd be perfectly fine with a CW era film or more ideally one set during the Old Republic era or the Legacy era. Give us something new and exciting, we might just love it. I mean how many people though Guardians of the Galaxy would be the hit it was, so long as the film is good/enjoyable people will buy it up.

4 minutes ago, theBitterFig said:

Personally, I kinda like that the actor looks nothing like Harrison Ford. I mean, Hamlet and Macbeth don't always look like the last actor to fill the role. Whether or not I'm going to like his performance remains to be seen.

I think I wish it'd have just been "LANDO" as the move. Donald Glover looks amazing. Watch him smooth as butter for 2 hours? Yes, please.

Haven't seen it, but I've heard Shattered Glass is good. With a better script and direction, I think Hayden Christensen could have been strong as Anakin. Jake Lloyd was wrongly cast, I think, but that's on George Lucas and the casting directors for not going with someone who'd actually have been age-appropriate for the role, or at least hiring an actual child actor. Mans was 10, isn't his fault.

As to the Clone Wars, I mean, given the prequels, why were they even called that? Shouldn't they have been called the Separatist Wars or the Droid Wars. Or War. Why is it even plural?

I think because Lucas had to conform to an idea that he established early on in ANH, and well Lightsabers + Droids = PG whereas Lightsabers + Normal People = PG-13+ depending on how it is handled. On the plus side we hear in Rebels enough times that there are those that refer to it as the Clone War.

I think thr ideas alluded to in the EU (before the prequels) made for a much more interesting Clone Wars. Something more akin to multiple warlords with armies of mad clones, all fighting for their bit of a crumbling republic. A republic that becomes so desperate to survive it implements martial law and conscription, allowing for the rise of Palpatine.

3 hours ago, Kieransi said:

e. All the action figures in a normal store now are those horrible non-articulated ones with the rocket-launcher jetpacks.

So, like the original ones from the 80s? It's like poetry. It rhymes.

19 minutes ago, Animewarsdude said:

I think because Lucas had to conform to an idea that he established early on in ANH, and well Lightsabers + Droids = PG whereas Lightsabers + Normal People = PG-13+ depending on how it is handled.

Yeah, I remember that part from early on in ANH. :lol:

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But after this many years, I've given up trying to figure out what decisions went into anything in Star Wars during the Post-OT Lucas era. Seems like a brain-melting exercise.

All I know is that there is almost no emotional weight or investment in the prequel trilogy at all. That scene where the two Ewoks get blown up , and the one guy tries to wake up his buddy, only to realize he is dead... carries more weight than basically the entire prequel trilogy. Certainly more than anything that happens to a fishbunny, clone trooper, or incompetent battle droid. As much as people criticize them, and as silly as they are at times, at least I actually care what happened to the Ewoks. They run in terror, grieve, and die. This is apparently what happens to Jamaican fishbunnies when they lose battles. Some turf gets chewed up, everybody retreats, there's some bumbling and fumbling, and then maybe you see somebody laying on the ground in the background.

You take the human element out of movies and you won't ever tell a story that anyone truly cares about.

So lots of folks all assuming the ship is the YT1300 Millennium Falcon. Obviously it makes sense being Han Solo. It could end up being an early YT Freighter, in which we don’t see the Millennium Falcon until the end or not at all so they can have room for a Solo Sequel, or perhaps it’s a stolen Freighter which is why the Empire is chasing him, again makes sense and therefore not the Falcon, which he gets at a later date.

34 minutes ago, TheVeteranSergeant said:

Yeah, I remember that part from early on in ANH. :lol:

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That was a 70s PG, take a quick look at 70s and 80s PG films and you will find they are closer to PG-13s in some of their content compared to modern PGs. Of course, most films aim for the PG-13 bracket nowdays since it is the one with the largest audience, not too edgy for adults to not take kids to see it and not considered too kiddy by teenager to go see it.

26 minutes ago, Ronu said:

So lots of folks all assuming the ship is the YT1300 Millennium Falcon. Obviously it makes sense being Han Solo. It could end up being an early YT Freighter, in which we don’t see the Millennium Falcon until the end or not at all so they can have room for a Solo Sequel, or perhaps it’s a stolen Freighter which is why the Empire is chasing him, again makes sense and therefore not the Falcon, which he gets at a later date.

Second row on the left, just gonna point that out.

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3 hours ago, Alpha17 said:

100% agree. The bad joke and space tentacles are not strong selling points for this movie.

Do you even Star Wars bro?

9 minutes ago, Animewarsdude said:

That was a 70s PG, take a quick look at 70s and 80s PG films and you will find they are closer to PG-13s in some of their content compared to modern PGs. Of course, most films aim for the PG-13 bracket nowdays since it is the one with the largest audience, not too edgy for adults to not take kids to see it and not considered too kiddy by teenager to go see it.

Second row on the left, just gonna point that out.

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Yeah ever since the new falcon images have been spoiled, and everyone's been freaking out, I've just been sitting here like "Guys, it's the falcon, we all know it's been upgraded, stripped, raped, etc."

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Alden Ehrenreich in Solo: A Star Wars Story and Harrison Ford in American Graffiti (directed by George Lucas). Ron Howard was also in American Graffiti .

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The film's release date is May 25, 2018 which is the same month and date that Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope (1977) was release in 1977.

Emilia Clarke will be the eleventh actress from Game of Thrones (2011) to appear in the Star Wars film franchise. Her co-stars Julian Glover (Major General Veers) was in Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back . Keisha Castle-Hughes in Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith , Gwendoline Christie, Max von Sydow, Jessica Henwick, Thomas Brodie-Sangster, Mark Stanley, Miltos Yerolemou and 'Emun Elliott' all appear in Star Wars: The Force Awakens and Ian McElhinney appears in Rogue One: A Star Wars Story .