On 2/3/2018 at 9:56 PM, Jabby said:

Tbh rebels is a kids show, don’t expect it to be perfect. But rebels is better than the Aftermath series

Well TCW is a kids show but the villains were still competent.

S1:E2

General Grievous annihilates Plo Koon’s entire task force and loses no ships

S1:E9

Ventress disables a Republic warship and saves Gunray

S1:E10

General Grievous kills Kit Fisto’s padawan and entire unit of clones.

S1:E16

Ventress and Commander Whorm Loathsom gain a major strategic victory over the clones. All of the Repbulic’s tanks and air support are lost.

S1:E19

The Republic does win this episode. However, Anakim loses his flag ship.

S1:E22

Cad Bane kicks butt and makes off with Zero the Hutt

that means that the villains had won in 5 episodes and destroyed anakins flag ship in a 6th. These were competent villains. The only time the Empire even got close to a victory in rebels was the battle of Atolon. Unfortunately, thrawn didn’t achieve a tactical win and season 4 showed us that he didn’t get the strategic win either.

5 hours ago, DarthBane66 said:

In legends, lightsabers are governed by the laws of physics. The name is misleading because it is actually made of plasma instead of a strong laser.

The newcanon also uses "plasma" in the context of lightsabers - though it does sometimes suggest that there is so little actual matter, that the blade is effectively weightless.

On 2/5/2018 at 12:24 PM, Darth Sanguis said:

I agree. However I do think we'll see a 2.0 version. There's going to be a point where this game drops off. It happens to everything eventually. In my opinion the only way this game will start lose sales is if new expansions start lacking depth or start taking too long to publish. Without dipping into new factions or heavily into the old EU (which they seem reluctant to do anymore) Armada will run out (or at least slow to the point of sales loss) of expansion options eventually. People start to move on. When the game is just reaching its natural death seems like a perfect time to launch a new edition.

Pros:
New ships
New squads
Fresh upgrades
No Erratas
New Objectives
Fast expansions (lots of ships and characters to draw from)
Compatible with the old system
Completely fresh competitive meta
Can use FFG Armada dice/rulers/obstacles/tokens (so things won competitively can still be valid)

Cons:
Core buy in
Older version ships/squads/upgrades not tournament legal
Rebuild collection as it releases


As one of the people who've been playing since the beginning, I don't want them to retire this version of Armada, but I also understand games have a natural life span. I'd rather they start fresh with a compatible system than let it die altogether or soil it with bad balancing and faction additions like they did X-Wing. Especially if the two versions could be used together in casual matches.

With all the canon ships in the CW, I just don't see how they could NOT dip into it eventually.

Well I don't think the older ships would not be tournament legal. After all you have both ARC-175 and T-70 X-wing in the same game. So you can have a a CIS vs Galactic Empire match.

The biggest problems is how to keep new factions and old factions aligned with each other. We are starting to see in Armada what mechanics from Waves 1-4 work and which ones don't. Much like how X-wing the stuff from waves 11-13 seem to clobber anything dragged out of wave 1-4. Granted the demand for new models isn't as high so FFG devs may have a little more time for playtesting. But it also means they get less resources and support.

A New core would likely be the result but then again we will be stuck with two factions with 2 to 3 ships and 4 squadrons each Given that the release wave gives the new factions 1 to 2 ships and squadron a piece from the new core, and the next wave expansions adds another ship and 3 more squadrons to each. (no flotillas) compared to factions with over 6 ships and a dozen different squadrons. The new factions would likely be at a considerable disadvantage, given the scum treatment, then start overpowering everything.

Still I think it can be done while avoiding the Scum Effect although there won't be any cross over campaigns which as of now is a staple for Armada. It could even be possible for CIS, Republic, 1st Order, Resistance factions to exist alongside the Rebel Alliance and Galactic Empire Factions.

As for now we just have to wait and see what FFG has next. I'm guessing a new campaign expansion.

Aren't we seeing Clone Wars already? Arquitens and Pelta were both seen first on Clone Wars. CR 90 made an appearance as "Sundered Heart".

30 minutes ago, axe238 said:

CR 90 made an appearance as "Sundered Heart".

Actually the Sundered Heart is now considered to be the Tantive III in newcanon. The Tantive IV did make a TCW appearance - Bail's trip to Toydaria to get supplies to help Ryloth.

1 hour ago, axe238 said:

Aren't we seeing Clone Wars already? Arquitens and Pelta were both seen first on Clone Wars. CR 90 made an appearance as "Sundered Heart".

Yes and no. There a several ships from that era, but they exist in Armada as they did in the galactic civil war. As remains or retrofits.

What many people are looking for is an era themed expansion into the CW.

droids vs clones, not just the ships from that era.


Though, honestly I'd be okay with both.

18 hours ago, DarthBane66 said:

In legends, lightsabers are governed by the laws of physics. The name is misleading because it is actually made of plasma instead of a strong laser. Lasers cannot stop in mid air but plasma can be stopped by an invisible magnetic field. That latter is how a lightsaber works. This happens in nature when a solar flare is contained by the magnetic field lines of the sun. The Russians even have a machine called a Takamak that contains plasma in a strong magnetic field. Obviously the machine is far larger than a lightsaber hilt but it is still proof of concept.

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/understanding-the-magnetic-sun

Yes, plasma. Generated by a device with a focusing crystal.... oh balls, maybe people didn’t think that through.

There is no phenomenon is physics that would allow you to contain the blade in such a precise shape and still have a cutting edge. There is no phenomenon that would make lightsabers block each other. There is so much wrong with the physics of lightsabers that I typically don’t bother.

Cutting edge?

i just thought they burned their way through everything...

12 minutes ago, Drasnighta said:

Cutting edge?

i just thought they burned their way through everything...

I see what you did there. It please me you shined a light on the situation.

Based on my working experience with FFG I do occasionally get hints of things to come. Though I'm not referring to Armada specifically, if the general vibe I'm getting from FFG is correct, we may be getting Clone Wars material sooner than we think.

Or, I could be totally wrong.......but I still want that Imperial Venator:)