I just started Armada and I'm really enjoying it but I was wondering if there is any chance that Fantasy Flight Games will make a base game or expansion packs with Clone Wars era ships like a Venator-class Star Destroyer, Munificent/Providence Class Dreadnoughts, Lucrehulk-class Battleship, ARC-170s and Vulture Droids.

Probably not. Be cool if they did, but FFG, and Disney, really, seems to be doing their best to avoid Clone Wars and Prequel content where ever possible. The Venator or Providence-Class might show up, but I don't expect much more than that.

Maybe \_(ツ)_/

There's precedent for them adding new factions ala Skum for X-wing but I wouldn't expect it anytime soon. There are a couple things going against it

FFG has Armada on a slow burn, we tend to only get releases every 8-10ish months as opposed to x-wing which seems to put out releases alongside the moons cycle.

The prequels are "generally" unpopular so that doesn't help FFG when they try to run the figures as far as how well they'll sell which disincentivizes them adding a new faction

You're up against a new trilogy that's generally received well by the overall viewing audience (SW nerds don't count).

The people on the below thread will go insane if CIS comes out before their 3 ft long set piece.

https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/138373-super-star-destroyer-discussion-thread/

1 minute ago, Alpha17 said:

Probably not. Be cool if they did, but FFG, and Disney, really, seems to be doing their best to avoid Clone Wars and Prequel content where ever possible. The Venator or Providence-Class might show up, but I don't expect much more than that.

I'm not sure that is the case with Disney. While they are producing content for the Original Trilogy and Sequel era, they do reference the prequel era. Particularly in Rebels there are many thing that show up - including several characters (e.g. Rex & Ahsoka).

How that translates to FFG - well, they put out the ARC-170 in X-Wing. I think they know that certain members of the fanbase can particularly opposed to the prequel stuff. I used to be that way, and got over it. But I will go insane if CIS comes out before my 3 ft long set piece.

In other words, prequel ships WILL come before the SSD.

..... especially since some of them have already arrived. Now were just waiting for the rest hahaha.

Someone brought up them bringing out the Scum version of the empire at war faction and I think that's probably the most likely. I don't want them to do it, I want to see CIS, I also want to see the Yuuzhan Vong because both are definably different from the two current factions. I REALLY don't want to see the republic clone war era get a faction because IT'S THE EMPIRE. I don't mind those ships coming to the empire or being split between the two current factions but i would hate to see two triangle factions in the game (there are enough triangle on triangle battles going right now, I don't want Armada to become like 40k where 70% of the armies are different colored space marines).

I'm just worried that Scum wouldn't be different enough from rebels to justify an entire faction.

Gawd, Yuuzhan Vong could have all organic ships that don't have shields and heal a hp / turn. Sorry, wishlisting. I know I know, they don't exist anymore but it was nice to see something beyond the "bad ninjas/good ninjas" fighting one another story that dominates the star wars story(which is also why thrawn was refreshing, a competent Imperial commander...bout time we got some plot armor on our side too).

The Republic and CIS need to be in Armada as seperate facrions. The Clone Wars saw more large fleet battles than the Rebellion era. Both factions are really fleshed out and have many different ships and squadrons (and the Republic navy's ships and squadrons are very different from the Empire's).

most likely, if clonewars ships appear it will be like the Pelta and Arquitens already in the game (which are clonewars era designs).. assigned to the existing factions to represent older vessels refit for service in the Empire or Rebellion.

The Acclimator and Venator Star Destroyers were used in canon by the Empire for years after the end of the clone wars, and we've had canon products showing them still in use after ANH, while many of the Seperatist ships would fit in well for the Rebellion (and we have had some novel appearances of seperatist warships modified and in use by Rebel cells)

7 hours ago, dominosfleet said:

Maybe \_(ツ)_/

There's precedent for them adding new factions ala Skum for X-wing but I wouldn't expect it anytime soon. There are a couple things going against it

FFG has Armada on a slow burn, we tend to only get releases every 8-10ish months as opposed to x-wing which seems to put out releases alongside the moons cycle.

The prequels are "generally" unpopular so that doesn't help FFG when they try to run the figures as far as how well they'll sell which disincentivizes them adding a new faction

You're up against a new trilogy that's generally received well by the overall viewing audience (SW nerds don't count).

The people on the below thread will go insane if CIS comes out before their 3 ft long set piece.

https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/138373-super-star-destroyer-discussion-thread/

No way! The SSD may be a foregone conclusion as far as I'm concerned, but I would love to see CIS & Republic factions. If we don't get them, well, at least I can use all the ships Mel has crafted, and stat them out on KDY!

My only issue with getting CW ships is that we've already got the late CW era VSD and it's kind of crap without 20 points of upgrades stapled to it. Releasing more ships of that era doesn't seem like it will fix the problem. The Pelta and Arquitens may also be of that era but they both also have their issues.

Give me Rebel One and a Venator and I’m good.

It's amazing, when I first discovered this game, I thought it was a match made in heaven for the Clone Wars. I had gone through a childhood of some amazing Friday night space battles with that show, and the OT never really had that other than in VI. I would love to see Clone Wars factions and ships come into the game, but tragically for now it looks like I'll have to settle for shapeways.

16 hours ago, DrakonLord said:

In other words, prequel ships WILL come before the SSD.

..... especially since some of them have already arrived. Now were just waiting for the rest hahaha.

Foolish Rebel,
You will learn of your folly when the SSD is announced soon.

11 hours ago, cynanbloodbane said:

No way! The SSD may be a foregone conclusion as far as I'm concerned, but I would love to see CIS & Republic factions. If we don't get them, well, at least I can use all the ships Mel has crafted, and stat them out on KDY!

Ya, i want to use my 1940s us military against my 2000's us military( ignoring the tech differences because sw has reached technological stagnation).

Its the same **** fleet, just add the ships to the imps

Like they did in X-Wing with the ARC-170, I think it actually makes sense that there would be a lot of old surplus military vessels around. While I am sure the Empire has tried to have a lot of that old hardware disassembled, plenty of it probably wound up in the wrong hands (ie. Rebel & Scum) (ie. Rebel & other scum). Also, Moffs on the Outer Rim probably have to make do with older hardware, because they just don't have the resources and political clout to requisition the new stuff. That's why the Victory is also still around.

While I know that a lot of people abhor the idea, I support FFG developing an 'other scum' (a.k.a. Scum & Villainy) faction for Armada, and I think Republic and CIS ships (as well as Victorys, Neb-Bs, CR-90s corvettes) could easily form the backbone of such a faction. They could use a faction conversion kit , just like they did with X-Wing.

I realize that a lot of people can't fathom the idea of non-governmental entities having enough resources to make large-scale naval hardware usable and profitable. However, I'd point out that the Star Wars galaxy does not have the same sort of fundamental political as our own, and Scum & Villainy should be thought of more as medieval warlords than 18th century pirates or 20th-21st century drug gangs.

7 minutes ago, dominosfleet said:

Ya, i want to use my 1940s us military against my 2000's us military( ignoring the tech differences because sw has reached technological stagnation).

More like 1990s vs. now - and yes, technological stagnation. Also, the US military still has B-52 s in active service. For those who don't know, that '52', means that it was first flown in 1952.

1 minute ago, Mikael Hasselstein said:

More like 1990s vs. now - and yes, technological stagnation. Also, the US military still has B-52 s in active service. For those who don't know, that '52', means that it was first flown in 1952.

Yep yep. I cant believe theyre finally retiring the 52.

7 minutes ago, Mikael Hasselstein said:

While I know that a lot of people abhor the idea, I support FFG developing an 'other scum' (a.k.a. Scum & Villainy) faction for Armada, and I think Republic and CIS ships (as well as Victorys, Neb-Bs, CR-90s corvettes) could easily form the backbone of such a faction. They could use a faction conversion kit , just like they did with X-Wing.

I think it's largely a frustration with how scum were introduced in xwing. Id bet a lot of armada players are disgruntled former xwingers and, while there are plenty of reasons to be irked at that game, scum was a big one. I will always hate that **** donut.

Edit: plus scum are the blue deck of xwing and no one likes blue deck players

21 minutes ago, dominosfleet said:

Ya, i want to use my 1940s us military against my 2000's us military( ignoring the tech differences because sw has reached technological stagnation).

Its the same **** fleet, just add the ships to the imps

Don't forget that 1.) The Empire is a peacekeeping navy, the Republic is a wartime navy and 2.) Personnel quality: Jedi and clones > Imperial officers and stormtroopers

Wouldn't call the empire a peacekeeping navy more a navy of occupation

22 minutes ago, slasher956 said:

Wouldn't call the empire a peacekeeping navy more a navy of occupation

We stand strong against the Rebel terrorists, while providing the galaxy with order, security and unity. Peacekeeping is our occupation.

Peace through subjugation and extermination of undesirables

2 hours ago, dominosfleet said:

Yep yep. I cant believe theyre finally retiring the 52.

Yeah, in 2045 , with a plan to replace them with whatever on-paper bomber design they decide to actually finish between now and then. Which means it'll probably soldier on until the 2060s due to cost overruns and project cancellations in its 'replacements' same as how it has the last few bomber projects.

48 minutes ago, slasher956 said:

Peace through subjugation and extermination of savages, dissidents and threats to civilization.

Ftfy.

Yes war is an excellent catalyst for technological progress. Want to go to Mars? Start WW3 and we can go within a decade (those that survive that is). Now the Empire can essentially be compared to the US in the period post '45 up to the early 50's, while the Republic could then be compared to the US in the early 40's up to '45. I think technology wise the difference between the Republic at the end of the Clone Wars vs the Empire isn't that great, just a couple of improved designs that were never finished in time for the Clone Wars. But if you were to compare early Clone Wars Republic vs Empire than the difference would be very notable as the Empire has incorporated the lessons learned during the years of warfare in their designs.

I would like to see Clone Wars era ships eventually as part of the existing factions. The prequels may have been utter crap, but the ship designs were quite good.

I think the prequels are being re-evaluated and becoming more popular since The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi have gotten some backlash. The prequel-haters complained about Anakin being whiny but he was only 19 and Kylo was 31 and every bit as much of a whiny emo brat. I would expect a teenager to be whiny but a guy in his 30s should be above throwing a temper tantrum. The same goes for Jar Jar's slapstick comedy. The Last Jedi did much of the same slapstick and undermined serious moments like Luke receiving his old lightsaber and meeting Leia for the first time in more than a decade. That's just the tip of the iceberg. The Rebels TV show is a complete mess. The Imperials can't even do background checks for their TIE Defender factory. Even McDonald's does background checks. Thrawn was too dumb to realize that his Star Destroyer has a tractor beam that could have stopped General Sato's ship, Phoenix Home, in the Iron Squadron episode. Instead Thrawn just called to say goodbye. That same General became a kamikaze at the end of season 3 so taking him captive would have prevented that. Thrawn also had such a short attention span that he couldn't keep up an orbital bombardment for more than a few minutes. The prequels have gotten quite a bit of hate over the years but at least they had competent Separatists who locked their doors and followed basic military protocol like encrypting messages and doing background checks to see if someone working at their factory is on the Empires Top 10 most wanted list.