On 2/1/2018 at 7:33 AM, FlyingAnchors said:

Dengar modified the Punishing One to use a cutting-edge engine bay and armed the ship with a mini- ion cannon and proton torpedo launcher. He also modified a quad- blaster cannon to operate using an R2-series astromech droid built into the ship as a gunner, leaving him free to concentrate on flying.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Punishing_One

Not singling you out, but I just thought of this... what if it's more thematic with the nerf ? If the droid's busy firing turrets, how can he be flipping damage cards facedown or making maneuvers green? Isn't the droid represented by Dengar's ability, too, i.e. firing twice per round sometimes? I would be ok if the title gave back the torpedoes though.

Combo theory question: what would get pushed way over the power curve if there was an illicit upgrade that allowed you to equip a unique Salvage Astro? (No unique is obviously to keep things from getting unhinged )

Current unique SA's:

- "Genius"

- R5-TK

- R4-E1

- R4-B11

- R5-P8

46 minutes ago, nitrobenz said:

Combo theory question: what would get pushed way over the power curve if there was an illicit upgrade that allowed you to equip a non-unique Salvage Astro? (No unique is obviously to keep things from getting unhinged )

Current non-unique SA's:

- "Genius"

- R5-TK

- R4-E1

- R4-B11

- R5-P8

Do you mean a unique SA?

All those are unique.

Probably timewalk Asajj with R5-P8?

Dengar With R5-P8 or something

Starviper + R5-P8 or 'B11

not sure if anything would be too amazing .

11 hours ago, Kieransi said:

Not singling you out, but I just thought of this... what if it's more thematic with the nerf ? If the droid's busy firing turrets, how can he be flipping damage cards facedown or making maneuvers green? Isn't the droid represented by Dengar's ability, too, i.e. firing twice per round sometimes? I would be ok if the title gave back the torpedoes though.

Is the original JM5K really broken with the title? I loathe the ship, but I can't help but feel that it got nerfed too hard. Yes, each of the JM5Ks were underpriced for what they had available to them. 25-33 points for a great dial (only 2 red maneuvers, both of which are rear facers) as well as TWO torpedo icons. But the Unique title adds 1 primary weapon attack for 12 points? That seems overpriced to me.

But I think the title should give back a single Torpedo slot as well as the Salvaged Astromech because

• The "stock model" (per wookiepedia) doesn't list torpedo launchers in the armament
• Dengar modified his to add the astromech
• The package comes with upgrades it presently can't use.

It doesn't stretch credibility to have the title make the Punishing One a contender; Dengar was/is scary. Flying triple Contracted Scouts does seem odd to me, as they don't have the same modifications as the bounty hunter.

I agree that for Star Wars fans who know a lot of the backstory, Dengar's supposed to be powerful. But from most people's perspective, he's just some random guy with a diaper on his head and three seconds of screentime. I'm not that worried if he was nerfed "too hard". I'll pay attention when he's rated lower than Luke Skywalker on meta-wing.

5 hours ago, Yakostovian said:

But the Unique title adds 1 primary weapon attack for 12 points? That seems overpriced to me.

Not when it's a 360' primary.

Dengar with Punishing One is in almost exactly the same price bracket as Han and Chiraneau.

6 minutes ago, Magnus Grendel said:

Not when it's a 360' primary.

Dengar with Punishing One is in almost exactly the same price bracket as Han and Chiraneau.

After looking at their upgrade bars, statline, and dial, I am swayed, but not completely convinced.

Dial: 1st Dengar , 2nd RAC, 3rd Solo
Agility: 1st Dengar, 2nd Solo, 3rd RAC
Hull: 1st RAC, 2nd Solo, 3rd Dengar
Shields: 1st Solo, 2nd (tied) RAC/Dengar

Upgrade Bar: 1st RAC, 2nd Solo, 3rd Dengar
Action Bar: 1st Dengar, 2nd (tied) RAC/Solo

12 hours ago, Infinite_Maelstrom said:

Do you mean a unique SA?

All those are unique.

Probably timewalk Asajj with R5-P8?

Dengar With R5-P8 or something

Starviper + R5-P8 or 'B11

not sure if anything would be too amazing .

Yes, don't know how that got past my proof read. Editing now

14 hours ago, nitrobenz said:

Combo theory question: what would get pushed way over the power curve if there was an illicit upgrade that allowed you to equip a unique Salvage Astro? (No unique is obviously to keep things from getting unhinged )

Current unique SA's:

- "Genius"

- R5-TK

- R4-E1

- R4-B11

- R5-P8

I think Emon would like to have a look at that genius...

Unhinged would be really nice though. Green k-turns on the Firespray, that's what we need.

11 minutes ago, flooze said:

I think Emon would like to have a look at that genius...

Unhinged would be really nice though. Green k-turns on the Firespray, that's what we need.

Unhinged is why such an upgrade would have to be unique only the list of ships with speed three turn around maneuvers includes about half the ships with an illicit slot, including the Starviper S-loops.

Emon+Genius, I'd have to map it out, but I don't think it clears the blast radius. I'd be more interested in Emon+R4-E1.

15 hours ago, Magnus Grendel said:

Not when it's a 360' primary.

Dengar with Punishing One is in almost exactly the same price bracket as Han and Chiraneau.

A point cheaper than Han, with a better dial, better ability, and native repositioning.

Dengar is insanely good value even now. The only thing he loses by comparison to Han and Chirpy (that they also routinely use) is the crew slot(s).

Unhinged is always solid choice, Painbot is alright when you want to make your ship unwanted target. R4 is solid. R4-B11 needs more love really, it is pretty decent one and could do well with Dalan in Kimogila.