Are Bombs considered Obstructions for the purpose of trick shot?

I am pretty sure the only time a bomb is considered during an attack is if the defender has scum Nym on the board since he adds an evade result if the attacker has measured range through a friendly bomb token.

OK, yea page 14 of the rules reference - "An attack is obstructed if the attacker measures range through an obstacle." and obstacles are listed there as well and only include asteroids and debris clouds.

2 minutes ago, bgrelle said:

OK, yea page 14 of the rules reference - "An attack is obstructed if the attacker measures range through an obstacle." and obstacles are listed there as well and only include asteroids and debris clouds.

For completion's sake... Scum Nym causes friendly bombs to work SOMEWHAT like obstructions, but the effect is markedly different (add an evade result instead of adding an extra evade die). Some other things that can cause an attack to become obstructed are Huge (epic) ship bases, or Large ships with Tactical Jammer equipped. Other obstacles that aren't explicitly asteroids or debris fields include the Cargo Token from Rigged Cargo Chute (works like debris), or the epic-only Container Token (works like an asteroid).

yeah figured that was the case just making sure i didn't miss anything... really wanted to sling a bomb and then get bonus dice for trick shot..lol

6 hours ago, emeraldbeacon said:

For completion's sake... Scum Nym causes friendly bombs to work SOMEWHAT like obstructions, but the effect is markedly different (add an evade result instead of adding an extra evade die). Some other things that can cause an attack to become obstructed are Huge (epic) ship bases, or Large ships with Tactical Jammer equipped. Other obstacles that aren't explicitly asteroids or debris fields include the Cargo Token from Rigged Cargo Chute (works like debris), or the epic-only Container Token (works like an asteroid).

Actually, the cargo reference card explicitly says it counts as a debris cloud obstacle.

Last line on the card.

2 hours ago, Parravon said:

Actually, the cargo reference card explicitly says it counts as a debris cloud obstacle.

Last line on the card.

Counts as, but is not specifically, a debris token. You can't, for example, use it as one of your deployment obstacles in the game (same way you can't use the obstacles from epic ships).

Just to complete the answer a bit concerning Scum nym, his ability can stack on top of being obstructed. I once had a Y-Wing evade a 3 hit harpoon: 2 evade dice (1 from the Y-Wing, 1 from being obstructed by an asteroid) and 1 evade result from Nym's ability... I think it gave my opponent an eye twitch

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On 1/31/2018 at 1:28 PM, bgrelle said:

I am pretty sure the only time a bomb is considered during an attack is if the defender has scum Nym on the board since he adds an evade result if the attacker has measured range through a friendly bomb token.

For the record, "Cobalt Leader" also considers bombs during an attack, but it's more like an anti-obstructed effect.

Obstructing an attack and being an obstruction are not the same. For instance Seismic Torpedoes will remove obstacles which can include all manner of weird tokens including some mission specific stuff but I don’t think Huge ships used in place of 3 obstacles can be removed from play like that. At any rate bombs so far have not been classed as obstacles. Yet.

So if i'm not mistaken, debris gambit would NOT consider a bomb as an obstacle...?

6 minutes ago, Cpt Barbarossa said:

So if i'm not mistaken, debris gambit would NOT consider a bomb as an obstacle...?

I think by the number of post here you could answer that...

Seeing as everyone imply that bomb are not an obstacle...

Bombs are an obstacle for future game design.

15 minutes ago, muribundi said:

I think by the number of post here you could answer that...

Seeing as everyone imply that bomb are not an obstacle...

Seeing as no one had raised the issue concerning D.G., i just wanted to check...apologies for my stupid question.

8 minutes ago, tortugatron said:

Bombs are an obstacle for future game design.

Ooh intriguing... To quote Grease "tell me more tell me more!"

32 minutes ago, Cpt Barbarossa said:

Seeing as no one had raised the issue concerning D.G., i just wanted to check...apologies for my stupid question.

Ooh intriguing... To quote Grease "tell me more tell me more!"

Bombs are not obstacles. Ever. Regardless of which upgrade card you're asking about.

He's joking; he's saying bombs are a problem for future game design.

49 minutes ago, Cpt Barbarossa said:

apologies for my stupid question.

It is not about stupid question or not... just pointing out that you should be able to deduce the answer. Something that help getting better at figuring out other game mechanics in the long run...

1 hour ago, thespaceinvader said:

He's joking; he's saying bombs are a problem for future game design.

Ahaha just understood the double entendre trap i fell into...sorry, delirious from cold medicine XD oh well, my DG scum nym list will have to go back to the workshop...